American Pale Ale Three Floyds Zombie Dust Clone

[Jay-Brew]

Does the 3oz dry hop make a big difference with this? Haven't used citra before but not getting much aroma after a two week primary. Will be dry hopping today.

 

[olotti]

The 3oz dry hop adds a HUGE nose to this beer. It really makes it.

 

[Jay-Brew]

Thanks olotti! Good to know! I dry hop for 5 days then try to cold crash for 2 then will keg.

 

[mothershipbrewing]

Brewed a beefed up version of this today. OG looks like its about 1.087. Used a half pound of Citra pellets today, going to pitch onto a fresh cake of Giga Yeast Vermont IPA & dry hop with 4 oz of Citra leaf.

 

[jammin]

Brewed a beefed up version of this today. OG looks like its about 1.087. Used a half pound of Citra pellets today, going to pitch onto a fresh cake of Giga Yeast Vermont IPA & dry hop with 4 oz of Citra leaf.

ill be interested to hear your results, but i have a hunch this might be a very malty beer.

if you hit 76% AA, that would yield a terminal gravity of 1.020.

did you modify the grain bill at such as add dextrose or reduce specialty malt percentages?

 

[mothershipbrewing]

ill be interested to hear your results, but i have a hunch this might be a very malty beer.

if you hit 76% AA, that would yield a terminal gravity of 1.020.

did you modify the grain bill at such as add dextrose or reduce specialty malt percentages?

I upped the grain bill to

13.25# 2row
1# each munich, melanoidin, carapils ,c60
12 oz of clear candi sugar I had leftover.

I upped/altered the hops too of course.
1.5oz fwh, 15mins, 5mins
3.5 oz at flameout

Just messing around here. I rarely brew big beers like this, but this looked like a good one to play with.

 

[screamin6]

Brewed this Monday using the recipe on the first post, and used Carapils instead of Carafoam by accident. But from what I have read they are basically identical malts.

My RIMS-in-a-toolbox kept the mash at 152 +- .2 degrees so that was a success.

OG came in at 1.064 - Color calculated by beersmith at 8.7

Also did 1 thing different from the recipe (besides the CaraX issue) - Ran through my Hop Rocket with 1 oz of Citra for the transfer from the brew vessel.

Transferred to a corny keg for fermentation and had it right at the top. Even with Fermcap in it I got nervous and transferred to the conical. I missed out on another half gallon by not using the conical to begin with but oh well it happens.

She is bubbling along at 65 degrees in my brewpi controlled fridge. Can't wait to try this out!
My only regret may be brewing a 6 gallon batch instead of 10+ gallons.

Next up: Steve's Pumpkin Ale (As soon as I can get a cheese pumpkin).

 

[wvdad]

The photo is a little dark but the zd is clear and the head is thick. Thanks for the great recipe.

 

[mothershipbrewing]

I'm at 1.013 after 3 days, OG was 1.087..This is gonna possibly my best beer ever out of 60 some all grain batches so far. Flavor & Aroma are through the roof.

 

[Nagorg]

Nice Spiegelau IPA glass there wvdad! I'll agree that this recipe tastes great, especially out of my Spiegelau glass!!

 

[jturkish]

Is the recipe on page 1 the best/most recent recipe to clone zd?

 

[olotti]

Is the recipe on page 1 the best/most recent recipe to clone zd?

Yes.

 

[Agher32]

I've done this recipe to a T, 3 times in a row. This past time, my 4th. My og hit 1.052. I usually am right at 1.068-.71. I did, however go to a new brew store because I moved to another side of town. Same malt bill and everything. I'm wondering if the grain at this new place could have made that big of a difference. Oh well, it's still full of citra, I'm sure it'll be phenomenal at the end. I also add galaxy and centennial, I think they complement citra SO well

 

[skeezerpleezer]

I've done this recipe to a T, 3 times in a row. This past time, my 4th. My og hit 1.052. I usually am right at 1.068-.71. I did, however go to a new brew store because I moved to another side of town. Same malt bill and everything. I'm wondering if the grain at this new place could have made that big of a difference. Oh well, it's still full of citra, I'm sure it'll be phenomenal at the end. I also add galaxy and centennial, I think they complement citra SO well

Do you crush your own grain?

 

[copper2hopper]

I've done this recipe to a T, 3 times in a row. This past time, my 4th. My og hit 1.052. I usually am right at 1.068-.71. I did, however go to a new brew store because I moved to another side of town. Same malt bill and everything. I'm wondering if the grain at this new place could have made that big of a difference. Oh well, it's still full of citra, I'm sure it'll be phenomenal at the end. I also add galaxy and centennial, I think they complement citra SO well

I hit a 1.051 OG and will be putting it in the secondary in 4 more days to dry hop for 10. I of course will post my FG so you can know what to expect with a 1.052

 

[finsfan]

Do you crush your own grain?

This. If not it if the stores grain mill that caused the efficiency loss.

I've got a pound of citra on the way for my first attempt. Any advice from others who have done this multiple times?

 

[screamin6]

Good LORD! S-04 ferments FAST!!! Fermentation slowed up yesterday to a bubble every 10 seconds or so. Just checked and it is dead stopped.

O.G 1.064
Final gravity? 1.010

And this was at 65 degrees. I noticed something was different when I checked the brewpi chart. Look at the 18:00 mark. That's when all fermentation came to halt. The last little bump in the end there is me opening the door of the fridge/fermentation chamber. Also, missing a day of charting as I had reset the name of the ferment which resets the charts.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=222142&stc=1&d=1409930182

The last time I used dry yeast was over 20 years ago when I started home brewing. I think things have changed a bit since then. I am going to start stocking up on dry yeast packs!

 

[pvpeacock]

Is that just reading temperature (internal wort, external etc.) or is there a gravity reading in there somewhere?

 

[screamin6]

It's temperature, controlled by BrewPi. Beer temp, internal fridge temp, and room temp. You don't see the temps on the right as it is a dynamic loading page and I did not have the mouse over those parts of the graph.

The heating and cooling stabilized around 18:00. Previous to that you can see where BrewPi had to keep bringing down the temps in the chamber due to the temperature from fermentation.

For gravity I COULD get one of those Beer Bugs also. Hmmmm.

 

[jaydog2314]

This. If not it if the stores grain mill that caused the efficiency loss.

I've got a pound of citra on the way for my first attempt. Any advice from others who have done this multiple times?

I've brewed it 3 or 4 times based on the original recipe and it's spot on and makes a fabulous brew!

 

[copper2hopper]

Looking for advice...today is day 12 of 14 of primary fermenter resting at a 1.014. I took a reading 9 days ago and it was 1.015. Do you think I can call it good and rack to secondary for dry hopping at this point since I've only lost one point over 9 days? I can't imagine getting any lower in the next two days. Thanks!

 

[milldoggy]

Rack it

 

[jammin]

Looking for advice...today is day 12 of 14 of primary fermenter resting at a 1.014. I took a reading 9 days ago and it was 1.015. Do you think I can call it good and rack to secondary for dry hopping at this point since I've only lost one point over 9 days? I can't imagine getting any lower in the next two days. Thanks!

shoulda racked and dry hopped when you took that sample on day 9. better yet, just dry hopped. no need to secondary

 

[copper2hopper]

Just dry hopped and secondary'd. Note to self. Small mouth carboys suck ass for 3oz of leaf hops. That's gonna be a battle to clean out for sure.

Got 5 gallons though. The reason I went so high was to force those leafs down into beer. Otherwise it looked like they were just gonna float all 10 days

 

[copper2hopper]

Will these leaves settle and did I go too high? Just worried. Thanks.

 

[olotti]

Pellets. I got amazing aroma using 3oz pellets use em on all my beers. Don't really see a negative to them. Your leaves should drop in time but it mat come to a point where you'll have to use a sanitized spoon to push the portion in the neck down into the beer.

 

[Baldy246]

I put mine in first and then the beer. Not sure if it matters. I had some hop particles settle and floating around but most stayed on top. Yours looks beautiful!

 

[copper2hopper]

Awesome. Thanks fellas!

 

[Baldy246]

shoulda racked and dry hopped when you took that sample on day 9. better yet, just dry hopped. no need to secondary

No need to secondary? I have read so so many varying opinions on whether to rack to secondary, it's rather confusing for me being a rookie. Could you please elaborate on your reasoning?

Thanks

 

[jammin]

No need to secondary? I have read so so many varying opinions on whether to rack to secondary, it's rather confusing for me being a rookie. Could you please elaborate on your reasoning?

Thanks

def a lot of hot debate on that topic!

racking just gives you another opportunity to oxidize your beer and/or possibly infect it. plus it's more work and creates more clean up

people say racking to secondary aids with clarity, and anecdotally i partially agree.


i would only recommend using a secondary if you need to wash/harvest yeast for another brew session. this way you can get cleaner yeast for your next pitch. this only applies if you are dry hopping as hop crud can make washing your yeast a bit tougher. the hop oils dont play well with the viability of the yeast either.




1 thing to consider when determining when to dry hop.. attenuation. a lot of brewers like to add dry hops just before their beer is fully attenuated. this allows the last bit of fermentation to help drive off/purge oxygen. a general rule of thumb is day 5 if youre not familiar with the recipe or yeast. this is especially a good idea when using a lot of leaf hops as they can hold more air than pellets.