Yeah, I can imagine all the hypochondriacs asking the same questions over and over. "I've got a boil on my butt...is it cancer?"
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Yeah, I can imagine all the hypochondriacs asking the same questions over and over. "I've got a boil on my butt...is it cancer?"
savannahbrew
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Yes I believe web MD does have a forum titled "Is it infected, with pictures". This thread has me laughing so hard. It's wonderful to see all the creativity! In before lock and dog pooped in wort some of my favorites.
I know that I have been guilty of starting threads on stuff that has been covered before. I extract brewed for years but recently started delving into new territory on several fronts; yeast starters, small batches, all grain etc. The desire to make better beer has left me looking for answers on many aspects of brewing.
It may have been pointed out earlier in this thread, but sometimes you search for something and get 400 results titled "Yeast starter." More descriptive titles would certainly help determine which threads might contain the specific info you're looking for.
I'll read through tons of old posts before starting a new thread. Sometimes I find the answer, sometimes not. I've also noticed that many times, when a new thread on a "familiar" subject appears, people offer new/unique insights or tidbits of information that might not have made it into many of the older treads.
There may be countless "Is this an infection?" threads, but if other people can help a brewer track down the cause of that particular infection, it has been a helpful/sucessful thread. Although many threads have similar subjects they often go in different directions.
I'm sure many people on this forum would echo my thankfulness for the helpful answers and extreme patience given by many of the members here, even if our questions may seem basic or repetitive.
As a final thought: With the vast number of threads on the site, I'm sure pretty much every topic about brewing has been discussed at least once. That makes almost every new thread a repeat to some degree.
It may have been pointed out earlier in this thread, but sometimes you search for something and get 400 results titled "Yeast starter." More descriptive titles would certainly help determine which threads might contain the specific info you're looking for.
I'll read through tons of old posts before starting a new thread. Sometimes I find the answer, sometimes not. I've also noticed that many times, when a new thread on a "familiar" subject appears, people offer new/unique insights or tidbits of information that might not have made it into many of the older treads.
There may be countless "Is this an infection?" threads, but if other people can help a brewer track down the cause of that particular infection, it has been a helpful/sucessful thread. Although many threads have similar subjects they often go in different directions.
I'm sure many people on this forum would echo my thankfulness for the helpful answers and extreme patience given by many of the members here, even if our questions may seem basic or repetitive.
As a final thought: With the vast number of threads on the site, I'm sure pretty much every topic about brewing has been discussed at least once. That makes almost every new thread a repeat to some degree.
For me search works for 95% of what I need. I usually start threads or tweak old ones when I have a very specific question. I usually can't make my mind up between 3-5 different kits, jump on here and get opinions about most of them and have a better idea and usually buy and make better beer.
I am now on my 10th batch and would have never made even 1 without the helpful, friendly people on here, so keep helping newbies even if your answering the same questions here and there...
I am now on my 10th batch and would have never made even 1 without the helpful, friendly people on here, so keep helping newbies even if your answering the same questions here and there...
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Another way I look at this is that I have raised 4 kids and I have 3 grandchilldren and another on the way. Yes, they asked reptitive questions but I answered every time. My granchildren, expecially my grandson (my shadow), loves to ask the same questions over and over and sometimes it gets tiring to answer the same old thing. But, I tell myself everytime, they can't learn if I don't teach and so I answer them again, sometimes if I am able to, I demonstrate. Particularly when I am making them homemade soda or cooking something that they really like, as an example.
I hate 'hubby' even worse...
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Nice Photoshop. Creeps me out just a little.
Has an Aphex Twin thing going on. Creepy and HILARIOUS. Nice work.
CreamyGoodness
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Weird coincidence. I was listening to Aphex Twin just last night. Guy is amazing.
sivispacemparabe11um
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I've spent hours reading through old threads. I enjoy this hobby. Reading all those repetitive threads have taught me a lot, especially patience, the most important part of this hobby. Gotta go figure out how to make beer in the microwave now......
Another thought, this forum is rather large and active. Due to just its popularity and activity, I would have to say its going to be rather difficult to come up with a thread that has not already been created at some point. Things will get repeated, but I have to say that I do my best to search through this forum and using google, and every time there are multiple threads to the question I am answering and I tend to click on more than one to see what the responses are for the same questions. Sometimes there are conflicting answers, especially on those types of threads of is technique x better than y or is item a better than b. Its not always a bad thing to see a number of threads out there with the same topic to get an idea of what others are thinking/doing.
If anything, the small but loud enough users on this forum who feel they have to let someone know that their thread has already been posted and they should learn how to search makes it so more reserved members don't even bother asking questions when they need help. I know I hesitate and research this forum as much as I can before I post a question, not because I am worried nobody will help me, its almost a guarantee someone will help out, but because I don't want to be yelled at by someone on their high horse telling me I didn't do a good job searching the forums.
If anything, the small but loud enough users on this forum who feel they have to let someone know that their thread has already been posted and they should learn how to search makes it so more reserved members don't even bother asking questions when they need help. I know I hesitate and research this forum as much as I can before I post a question, not because I am worried nobody will help me, its almost a guarantee someone will help out, but because I don't want to be yelled at by someone on their high horse telling me I didn't do a good job searching the forums.
worksnorth
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Fennis said:
All very well said
Cheers
watersr
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Fennis said:
Seriously, pretty much every question you could want to ask about beer has been asked and answered at some point in this forum so everyone, for God's sake! Stop posting anything at all! There's no point in starting anymore threads. Let's have Tex lock everything and we'll all silently search countless old threads from our own beer fortresses of solitude. Jeez, lighten up already. I guess you were born with a mash paddle in your hand and never once had to ask a dumb question huh?
Rhumbline
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One final thought on this from a recent newb.
One reason for the constant repeats is the amount of conflicting info out there, from experienced brewers.
Do a search for any of the following and read at least six of the threads:
Do I need to make a starter?
Is kegging better than bottling?
Do I need a secondary?
Do I need a wort chiller?
Bottled water or tap?
Should I send my water sample off to be checked?
Slow rolling boil or vigorous?
How quickly do I need to chill the wort?
What's the ideal pitching temp?
... And there are a thousand others that I could cite.
According to the experienced brewers here, there is no way that I can possibly be brewing drinkable beer yet it sure does taste good.
One reason for the constant repeats is the amount of conflicting info out there, from experienced brewers.
Do a search for any of the following and read at least six of the threads:
Do I need to make a starter?
Is kegging better than bottling?
Do I need a secondary?
Do I need a wort chiller?
Bottled water or tap?
Should I send my water sample off to be checked?
Slow rolling boil or vigorous?
How quickly do I need to chill the wort?
What's the ideal pitching temp?
... And there are a thousand others that I could cite.
According to the experienced brewers here, there is no way that I can possibly be brewing drinkable beer yet it sure does taste good.
Did you misread my post? I am in support of newbies asking any and all questions, no matter how dumb they may be and how ever many times they have been asked. What I am against is people who feel that instead of posting an answer to someone's repeated thread/question, they have to belittle the OP because they supposedly didn't do a good enough job searching the forums. I've asked plenty of dumb questions. The point I am getting at is the attitude of a small, but loud enough group of some people on this forum almost act as a deterrent to newbies or even veterans to posting a question because of the fear of the fallout of potentially creating a duplicated thread. That is all. Sorry if I somehow didn't get that point across.
I think most everyone in this thread is OK with the repetition that invariably occurs here. With same or similar questions being asked, the new threads often draw out different experiences and points of view that weren't evident in the previous threads. It all adds to the overall knowledge base.
Most people here are pretty good about the repetition. They still will jump in and help, and maybe even link some similar threads to add depth to the discussion. Only once in a while do I see a "Google is your friend" or "search the forum" kind of response.
Most people here are pretty good about the repetition. They still will jump in and help, and maybe even link some similar threads to add depth to the discussion. Only once in a while do I see a "Google is your friend" or "search the forum" kind of response.
SPR-GRN
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Here is how the hitchikers guide sees Homebrewtalk.com (after a fashion):
Homebrewtalk.com is a very big thing that contains a great number of threads and a great number of posts. It is Everything. What we live in. All around us. The lot. Not nothing. It is quite difficult to actually define what Homebrewtalk.com means, but fortunately the Guide doesn't worry about that and just gives us some useful information to live in it.
Area: The area of Homebrewtalk.com is infinite. (See the note)
Important Threads: None. This is a by product of infinity; it is impossible to have important threads in something that has infinite volume because by definition there is nothing to compare them to.
Unimportant Threads: None, for similar reasons as important threads.
Intelligent Membership: None. Although you might see people from time to time, they are most likely products of your imagination. Simple mathematics tells us that the population of homebrewtalk.com must be zero. Why? Well given that the volume of homebrewtalk.com is infinite there must be an infinite number of members. But not all of them are intelligent; therefore only a finite number are. Any finite number divided by infinity is zero, therefore the average membership of homebrewtalk.com is zero, and so the intelligent membership must be zero.
Beer: None. Because the function of beer is to hold a mirror up to nature there can be no beer because homebrewtalk.com is infinite which means there simply isn't a mirror big enough.
Posts: None. Although in fact there is quite a lot, given the zero membership of homebrewtalk.com there can in fact be no beings to post, and therefore no posts happen on homebrewtalk.com.
Note: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy offers this definition of the word "infinite".
Infinite: Bigger than the biggest thing ever and then some. Much bigger than that in fact, really amazingly immense, a totally stunning size, real "wow, that's big," time. Infinity is just so big that, by comparison, bigness itself looks really titchy. Gigantic multiplied by colossal multiplied by staggeringly huge is the sort of concept we're trying to get across here.
so there you go, no members, no important threads, no unimportant threads, no posts, no beer.
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Homebrewtalk.com is a very big thing that contains a great number of threads and a great number of posts. It is Everything. What we live in. All around us. The lot. Not nothing. It is quite difficult to actually define what Homebrewtalk.com means, but fortunately the Guide doesn't worry about that and just gives us some useful information to live in it.
Area: The area of Homebrewtalk.com is infinite. (See the note)
Important Threads: None. This is a by product of infinity; it is impossible to have important threads in something that has infinite volume because by definition there is nothing to compare them to.
Unimportant Threads: None, for similar reasons as important threads.
Intelligent Membership: None. Although you might see people from time to time, they are most likely products of your imagination. Simple mathematics tells us that the population of homebrewtalk.com must be zero. Why? Well given that the volume of homebrewtalk.com is infinite there must be an infinite number of members. But not all of them are intelligent; therefore only a finite number are. Any finite number divided by infinity is zero, therefore the average membership of homebrewtalk.com is zero, and so the intelligent membership must be zero.
Beer: None. Because the function of beer is to hold a mirror up to nature there can be no beer because homebrewtalk.com is infinite which means there simply isn't a mirror big enough.
Posts: None. Although in fact there is quite a lot, given the zero membership of homebrewtalk.com there can in fact be no beings to post, and therefore no posts happen on homebrewtalk.com.
Note: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy offers this definition of the word "infinite".
Infinite: Bigger than the biggest thing ever and then some. Much bigger than that in fact, really amazingly immense, a totally stunning size, real "wow, that's big," time. Infinity is just so big that, by comparison, bigness itself looks really titchy. Gigantic multiplied by colossal multiplied by staggeringly huge is the sort of concept we're trying to get across here.
so there you go, no members, no important threads, no unimportant threads, no posts, no beer.
/thread
Class and intelligence matter.
Most likely the OP is using a smart phone, which some people believe is a valid excuse for expressing oneself in an uneducated manner.
I would not be one of those people.
watersr
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Nope ,I quoted your post to support it and add my agreement. My issue was with the OP. Sorry if that was confusing.
hillybilly
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WOW talk about a poop storm this thing went 7 different directions. Having grammer correction and grading of post. Yes my OP was typed on a cellphone after a few drinks and without my glasses so for give my grammer.
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hillybilly
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Still not wearing my glassess
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hillybilly
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I found my glasses in my shirt pocket
The threads don't bother me since they're easy to ignore. I am tired of seeing great threads destroyed by "subbed" posts when the OP has started a project / experiment and will return later will their progress / results. No one wants to go through 10 pages of "subbed" before finally getting to the next piece of relevant information.
Beer_Eugenics
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I farted in my bottling bucket to purge the O2 out. FYI I was wearing a flatulence deodorizer. Will my beer be infected now or do you think my flatulence deodorizer captured all the contaminants? Also is this common practice? If not how does one purge oxygen out so my beer does not become oxidized?
I hear that beer purged with fart gas goes well with Mexican food. Then you can fart some more, purge O2 from the next batch, and the cycle continues...
MaddBaggins
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I'm a member of a few forums. Some I've been on for nearly a decade. The one thing I hate to see is "we've discussed this before, search!" without pointing to it or helping with an answer.
At this point, when a forum has been around long enough, most everything has been discussed before. Should everyone just search and nobody starts any new threads? I find that neither friendly nor inviting.
If you have a question, ask it. My .02
At this point, when a forum has been around long enough, most everything has been discussed before. Should everyone just search and nobody starts any new threads? I find that neither friendly nor inviting.
If you have a question, ask it. My .02
I find that going past 4 generations of farts is not advisable.
mikescooling
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Going past 4 generations of farts is not advisable, I freeze my farts in test tubes with glycerin. I think it's narrow minded of people to think we have covered every topic of brewing, especially because craft brewing is in it's infancy. Look at how complicated some of the HERMS systems are and how high tech the commercial breweries are. Isn't that what they teach you in college "be a critical thinker with an open mind"?
