This forum seems to be getting bit$chy

[Stauffbier]

How much do they pay those hacks? I COULD move.

Not enough! You don't want to move here! I guess that's why most of the subs and general contractors in this town are useless! Being a border town doesn't help, plus the city has very few requirements for obtaining the liscenses here.. If you have insurance and a bond you can be a home builder. No liscense required! How scary is that?!

 

[bob1852]

I can't take on the big guns alone...anyone with me?

Yooper's on vacation. You're all alone!

 

[lschiavo]

Not enough! You don't want to move here! I guess that's why most of the subs and general contractors in this town are useless! Being a border town doesn't help, plus the city has very few requirements for obtaining the liscenses here.. If you have insurance and a bond you can be a home builder. No liscense required! How scary is that?!

Well, almost no work is pretty scary here. I'll stay away on your recomendation though.

 

[lschiavo]

Yooper's on vacation. You're all alone!

Stop it you big bully! I'll tell my mom! Yooper will be back soon and then you'll be sorry you'll see....

 

[bottlebomber]

I wish I knew about electricity it is one thing that I've always been intrigued by that I know absolutely nothing about. My eldest son knows more than I do I think... Tinkering around with his Arduino

 

[Stauffbier]

Well, almost no work is pretty scary here. I'll stay away on your recomendation though.

Not having work is scary! I guess we're lucky in that sense.. I mean.. we were already poor before the economy went bad, so it's just another day to us! haha!

 

[jd3]

I think that like every damn forum on the internet, this one suffers from the same problems as many others.

Having been a home brewer for 10 years and having 10,000 posts does not give you the right to be a self righteous ****** bag. If you cannot walk into a thread asking for help and answer the damn question, you should walk the **** away. It isn't complicated.

If you can't answer the question without removing your head from your ass, you should also walk away. A few posters in particular have this almost cult like following, only encouraging their ******-bagginess. I think sometimes these people need to just take a break, leave the forum for a month or two, and come back ready to not be a prick.

People come into advice threads and while they might answer the question, they do it in such standoffish ways that it is a wash, at best. We're all supposed to be here for the same reason. If you need to get into a dumb, disrespectful argument with random strangers, step away from the keyboard and go to a biker bar.


/rant

flame suit on.

btw, sorry for re-derailing this thread back on topic..... I only read through 4 pages of drivel before I posted.

 

[bob1852]

Stop it you big bully! I'll tell my mom! Yooper will be back soon and then you'll be sorry you'll see....

Okay, you win!

 

[Polboy]

thread is growing so i will repeat:
i love cats, i love every kind of...
im kidding but the whole discussion about electricians and contractors reminded me about great book Fountainhead, ischa, staubfiber and rest, read it its just great book

 

[bottlebomber]

A few posters in particular have this almost cult like following, only encouraging their ******-bagginess.

A few, or just one?

 

[bottlebomber]

thread is growing so i will repeat:
i love cats, i love every kind of...

Ok you almost got it the first time... Here it is.

 

[lschiavo]

Not having work is scary! I guess we're lucky in that sense.. I mean.. we were already poor before the economy went bad, so it's just another day to us! haha!

I'll just have a few homebrews until things get better and when they do, I will continue to be poor just like now and continue drinking homebrew...This is the cycle I could learn to enjoy

 

[Stauffbier]

I will continue to be poor just like now and continue drinking homebrew...

This shall be my new moto!

 

[lschiavo]

Okay, you win!

Really? That worked? I thought we would at least have a slap fight...you big stupid dummy.

 

[bob1852]

Really? That worked? I thought we would at least have a slap fight...you big stupid dummy.

Post reported. Name calling.

 

[lschiavo]

Post reported. Name calling.

Got me! Game over. (jab in ribs)

 

[Dan]

This only describes about 1/10th of the electricians in my city. I'm a building contractor, and I can't find a good electrician to save my life! The ones in my city all want to splice wires in the wall and then cover it up with sheetrock It's called a junction box idiots! I can't count how many times an electrician almost burnt my job site down! I wish we had more guys like you all in my town!

Hear you.

Maybe this is off topic but here goes.

During an evaluation appraisal the big boss started out by saying there are two types of aircraft electricians. The first he called FE's. I thought I knew what that meant, "Flight Engineers" and said that to him.. He said, no it means f'ing electricians, they will bring a squadron to its knees if they don't know what they are doing. He then went on to give me a great appraisal and told me I was NOT an FE! Weird way to get a complement.

I can only and very humbly speak for aircraft electricians. I'm totally lost when it comes to household electrical systems. Might sound weird, but I haven't been able to match aircraft to a residential environment. The grounding screws me all up.

Pretty sure both of our fields believe I=E/R

 

[bottlebomber]

Yeah, that's what I like to hear when I'm in for a performance review... "Thank you for not being a *******."

 

[Stauffbier]

Hear you.

Maybe this is off topic but here goes.

During an evaluation appraisal the big boss started out by saying there are two types of aircraft electricians. The first he called FE's. I thought I knew what that meant, "Flight Engineers" and said that to him.. He said, no it means f'ing electricians, they will bring a squadron to its knees if they don't know what they are doing. He then went on to give me a great appraisal and told me I was NOT an FE! Weird way to get a complement.

I can only and very humbly speak for aircraft electricians. I'm totally lost when it comes to household electrical systems. Might sound weird, but I haven't been able to match aircraft to a residential environment. The grounding screws me all up.

Pretty sure both of our fields believe I=E/R

Yup, I learned I=E/R during high school in a refrigeration/hvac program I was in. As far as FE's go, we call those "clown a$$es" here!

 

[lschiavo]

Hear you.

Maybe this is off topic but here goes.

During an evaluation appraisal the big boss started out by saying there are two types of aircraft electricians. The first he called FE's. I thought I knew what that meant, "Flight Engineers" and said that to him.. He said, no it means f'ing electricians, they will bring a squadron to its knees if they don't know what they are doing. He then went on to give me a great appraisal and told me I was NOT an FE! Weird way to get a complement.

I can only and very humbly speak for aircraft electricians. I'm totally lost when it comes to household electrical systems. Might sound weird, but I haven't been able to match aircraft to a residential environment. The grounding screws me all up.

Pretty sure both of our fields believe I=E/R

Don't sell yourself short Dan "you're a tremendous slouch"...Seriously, your a good guy capable of whatever you want to do...I can tell through the interwebz.

 

[scrambledegg81]

Members: 107,922

Wouldn't be surprising if there was at least one ********* among them.

 

[Dan]

I started this thread with a rant and ah crap here's another.

I=E/R. Ohms law. Very basic I know.

One day, my coworkers and I (Navy men) who at the time lived on a small coral reef in the Indian Ocean called Diego Garcia received a visit from the the Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy. (MCPON)

During a mandatory sit-down with him, question and talk time came. A colleague who I have to admit was drunk, brought up the fact that the electronic schools were not teachinig Ohms law..he went on to expand they were not being taught the basics.

The MCPON didn't have much of a response at all. He obviously saw the man asking the question was a bit intoxicated so he changed the subject.

But my friend did make a good point; Basics are no longer being taught.. at least in Navy schools. Computers based training, and the ever perfect Built in Test (BIT) systems will fix whatever is broke.

Don't worry about how something works, don't even learn about it because very little effort using somebody else's knowledge and a built in test feature will repair and return the broken product quickly.

Theory of operation, system knowledge based on technical skills have been lost.... I'm only speaking about Naval Aviation
[/B]
Glad I'm old enough to have been taught the basics, even if I don't remember them all now.

Second rant over.

 

[Stauffbier]

I started this thread with a rant and ah crap here's another.

I=E/R. Ohms law. Very basic I know.

One day, my coworkers and I (Navy men) who at the time lived on a small coral reef in the Indian Ocean called Diego Garcia received a visit from the the Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy. (MCPON)

During a mandatory sit-down with him, question and talk time came. A colleague who I have to admit was drunk, brought up the fact that the electronic schools were not teachinig Ohms law..he went on to expand they were not being taught the basics.

The MCPON didn't have much of a response at all. He obviously saw the man asking the question was a bit intoxicated so he changed the subject.

But my friend did make a good point; Basics are no longer being taught.. at least in Navy schools. Computers based training, and the ever perfect Built in Test (BIT) systems will fix whatever is broke.

Don't worry about how something works, don't even learn about it because very little effort using somebody else's knowledge and a built in test feature will repair and return the broken product quickly.

Theory of operation, system knowledge based on technical skills have been lost.... I'm only speaking about Naval Aviation
[/B]
Glad I'm old enough to have been taught the basics, even if I don't remember them all now.

Second rant over.

You are most definitely correct my friend. It's funny you mention the Navy schools, because my refrigeration/hvac teacher in high school used to tell us that the Navy was the best place to learn refrigeration and electronics. I guess things changed after 24 years! I also agree that people rely way too much on digital/electronic memory these days instead of using their own minds! People such as ourselves should be considered artisans, as we are a dying breed! What I want to know is... What are all of the 20somethings going to do when cell phones all die some day?! (Sorry, 20somethings! No offense!)..............

 

[Dan]

Don't sell yourself short Dan "you're a tremendous slouch"...Seriously, your a good guy capable of whatever you want to do...I can tell through the interwebz.

Thank you for the encouraging words.

 

[Dan]

I think that like every damn forum on the internet, this one suffers from the same problems as many others.

Having been a home brewer for 10 years and having 10,000 posts does not give you the right to be a self righteous ****** bag. If you cannot walk into a thread asking for help and answer the damn question, you should walk the **** away. It isn't complicated.

If you can't answer the question without removing your head from your ass, you should also walk away. A few posters in particular have this almost cult like following, only encouraging their ******-bagginess. I think sometimes these people need to just take a break, leave the forum for a month or two, and come back ready to not be a prick.

People come into advice threads and while they might answer the question, they do it in such standoffish ways that it is a wash, at best. We're all supposed to be here for the same reason. If you need to get into a dumb, disrespectful argument with random strangers, step away from the keyboard and go to a biker bar.


/rant

flame suit on.

btw, sorry for re-derailing this thread back on topic..... I only read through 4 pages of drivel before I posted.

I must have missed something. Where did this come from??????

 

[Dan]

You are most definitely correct my friend. It's funny you mention the Navy schools, because my refrigeration/hvac teacher in high school used to tell us that the Navy was the best place to learn refrigeration and electronics. I guess things changed after 24 years! I also agree that people rely way too much on digital/electronic memory these days instead of using their own minds! People such as ourselves should be considered artisans, as we are a dying breed! What I want to know is... What are all of the 20somethings going to do when cell phones all die some day?! (Sorry, 20somethings! No offense!)..............

Thank you for the kind words.

I have no idea what they'll do. Got to admit I use a cell phone too. It doesn't take picture, text or have WW access. But is good to have.

 

[Dan]

You are most definitely correct my friend. It's funny you mention the Navy schools, because my refrigeration/hvac teacher in high school used to tell us that the Navy was the best place to learn refrigeration and electronics. I guess things changed after 24 years! I also agree that people rely way too much on digital/electronic memory these days instead of using their own minds! People such as ourselves should be considered artisans, as we are a dying breed! What I want to know is... What are all of the 20somethings going to do when cell phones all die some day?! (Sorry, 20somethings! No offense!)..............

Navy schools use to be very good. Things change. As far as cell phones go? If the cellular market comes to an end for some unknown reason, maybe we'll all have to become familiar with land line party lines!

 

[BrewKnurd]

Ok you almost got it the first time... Here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTTwcCVajAc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

So you prefer the original? I myself am a fan of the remix.

 

[BrewKnurd]

Wouldn't be surprising if there was at least one ********* among them.

And as a piece of advice to all, if you look around and can't see one, then you're probably the *********.

 

[SittingDuck]

Sorry, I meant Carboy. "The Rhinestone Carboy"

I need one of these for my disco brewhouse.