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One of my past businesses was a Commercial Construction company, and we had a contract to build out new offices for Ryland Homes mortgage division I think it was. Each floor was sub-divided into a giant ring of identical Class 'A' drone cells, and the bank's project manager was emphatic that they must all be exactly the same identical size. As luck would have it two of the corner offices ended up with 3/8 of an inch more space in one dimension... across something like 240+ feet of offices along just one side of the building. We actually had to laminate an additional layer of specially sourced ('cuz nobody was stocking 3/8" thick sheet rock) material to the wall to make the 3/8" disappear. I thought it was all just a seriously sick and retarded joke until the actual occupants showed up, and literally more than a dozen of them immediately went to crawling around the empty spaces with tape measures to make sure that they either got the biggest one, or that nobody elses was bigger. :cross:

Also owned a cabinet and fabricating shop. The surest way in the world to turn my cabinet makers' and metal fabricators' world upside down was to try and move something in "their" shop. Just the mention of a new piece of equipment had everybody streaming in and out of my office for weeks (some wanted it closer, some couldn't get it far enough away from them, etc.) and this was after a team meeting where they all supposedly decided that we needed this gear. They were all great workers that did fantastic work, and I did what I could to accommodate everybody, but it always used to amuse me just how territorial they got anytime somebody threatened "their" space. :)

when you're stuck in a space that's already too small to do the work that you have, you take it very seriously. this guy has more room in his area and there is room in other areas to store the jig. come crunch time, I'm in my work area more than my house. I will spit, growl, and bare my teeth at anyone encroaching on my work space. and I don't mean that figuratively.:rockin:
 
Hopfool: a person who claims to work harder than anyone yet has the time to type long diatribes on a web forum detailing all of his complaints.
 
Not to start an argument, or maybe that is my reasoning. I dont know. Kinda fried in mental capacity now.

Firefighters, military grunts and police are technically working and 'on call' for when they are needed. Does it incense you that firefighters get paid to sleep, eat, etc?

And for government workers, there is a tradeoff. Contractors cost far more money, but are easier to let go. Government employees get a kind of tenure and take quite a bit of work to get rid of.
Apples and watermelons my friend. You're attempting to elevate the Feral's overpaid place at the trough, where he literally does nothing, to the level of some of our most underpaid public employees. Guys, and more recently gals, don't become cops and firefighters for the dough. They happen to be two of the most challenging and engaging, interesting and dynamic public sector jobs that there are. Who wouldn't wanna be one of them if they possessed that particular skill set or could afford to live on their salary.

Firemen in particular are crapped on worse than any. Find me one single jurisdiction or department that requires pre-employment lead screening and continued monitoring and I'll kiss... well whatever you want me to kiss. The incidence of lead paint in our buildings all but guarantees that these guys are going to breathing this stuff regularly, and in abundance, when it's at its absolute worst - vaporized by heat and flame.

Their DNA gets screwed, so now their kids and future generations are effected as well. Nothing new here, the States and the Ferals at OSHA and the EPA have understood it for decades. It's just that we're so busy pissing money off to support foreign wars, the military industrial complex, foreign countries (well actually Israel gets more than all of the rest combined, but again I digress), creating these ridiculous government employment jobs programs, and supporting corporate welfare, that we never have enough to properly afford the things that we should be concerned with. Looked at your State roads lately. Pennsylvania's supposedly changing its State Tree to the orange and white striped folding saw horse with flashing light.

My Euro luxury car driving acquaintances from the supreme rulers provide less than nothing by my estimation. Were they both to never show up for work again nobody would ever care or notice.

One of the problems that our government suffers from, at the State and Feral levels especially, is a complete disconnect from what we need, and what we or they want, as well as what our Constitutions were intended to allow and provide for. We were never intended to be a a socialized State.

I've worked for federal and state government for the last 5 years (after starting off in private industry). I can speak to both sides.

On one hand, yes, there is very little accountability in a lot of cases. I could walk into my boss's office right now and call him a dumb SOB and probably not get much more than a talking-to. Blowing the whistle on some sort of abuse of power or questioning the decisions of upper management are more likely to get you in trouble than actually doing something wrong yourself. Getting fired takes a lot.

Congratulations... without a doubt one of the greatest understatements of all time. There is NO accountability, at least to the taxpayers, as required by our Constitution. Would you believe that we're actually supposed to be provided with a balanced and completely accurate, totally transparent, accounting of where every single cent of our money goes, all of the time?

One of my dearest friends recently passed away, but previous to that he had been involved in an audit of the CDC, a Feral Agency dwarfed by the likes of the NSA, HLS, and most others. When asked about their $16,000,000 annual utility bills for just one particular group of buildings that they lease it was disclosed that they actually and honestly had no idea whatsoever how many buildings they even had, be they leased or owned by us.
Nobody fired. Everybody got their COLA, and no doubt bonuses were probably awarded.

A while before that he had worked as an economist for NIOSH, where he admitted that they had so much grant money to give away that that was pretty much all that he was responsible for. Grant money BTW is academia-speak for academic welfare, although both corporations and universities derived tens of millions in benefit from this particular pig. Again... our money, being redistributed by bureaucrats to whatever group their political whore boss is beholden to. They have to do it for us 'cuz we're just like little children... too simple minded to figure out what to do with it ourselves.

Except for the military, and by that I mean a military tasked with performing only those functions for which it was intended... protecting our borders from attack, there is almost nothing that government can be said to do a better job of than the private sector has the potential to perform. Of course in a world run by cronyism we don't get to see too much of that carried out in any kind of significant fashion.

The comparison of contractors to Feral and State employees is also something of a straw man. Thanks to unionization of the Feral, State, and Local employees we have succeeded in inflating both sides of that equation unnecessarily. There's a reason the Navy buys $1,000 wrenches, and it ain't 'cuz they were made for working on nuclear reactors. Billions and billions of dollars are spent by our rulers every year to further American hegemony in ways that most people don't even know of, much less understand, and at each level of each of those transactions there are whole departments and buildings filled with government employees to facilitate that fraud.

What we get in return is pathetic. Unravel all of the graft and waste associated with any of these frauds and we could probably pay private medical providers well enough that everyone would actually receive world class care.

Meanwhile the vidiot box is ablaze every night with emotional panderings and panhandlings to help provide for the young people whose lives have been distorted and destroyed by manipulating their sense of patriotism into some sort of weird excuse to sacrifice themselves for the corporate oligarchy. Does no one understand that the pact that we have with our service men and women is exactly that, and that if they choose to serve, we... our government that we created, will 100%, forever and ever til the end of their lives, have their backs. We employ more useless government employees one way or the other, than even the Soviets managed, and yet we still can't find a way to even keep up with the needs of the kids returning from our most recent war(s), to say nothing of all the rest that have preceded them? It's insulting... and nuts!


On the other hand, the pay (and really even the benefits) aren't as great as a many outsiders think, at least not at the state level. I make about 2/3-3/4 of a comparable private industry salary for someone at my experience level. COLAs were non-existent for about 7 years, we're susceptible to furloughs when the powers that be can't get the budget straight, and a lot of people work 2 jobs to keep up. With that kind of environment, most of the workers worth a damn get recruited by consultants, leaving behind the people who either can't do any better, or who really care about what they do but don't ask for any recognition. They are there, but when they're doing their jobs right, the public doesn't notice. As soon as a screw-up happens, the "my tax dollars pay for this?!" hand-wringing starts.
Spoken like a man who is happy not to be left to the current vagaries of the open market. This all obviously varies by State, but by and large the larger the entity the worse the abuses of power... and our money. Regardless, State wages and pay rates are a kind of back handed pay off to the unions that help to limit market access, as most legislation is designed to do. The laws are crafted by the special interest groups to keep the door closed to the very people that they all swear they are trying to foster and help. It's all crap, just smoke and mirrors to keep you distracted and looking at the shiny ball whilst they finish picking our pockets.

Funny but predictable that you condescend over the very idea that people might "hand wring" over how their money is spent. :rolleyes:
Ultimately there is absolutely no sane or rational excuse for the huge segment of our population that has gravitated from being producers to becoming Rand's "moochers and looters".



I'm lower on the totem pole it seems as I work for municipal government. People love to piss and moan about where their tax dollars go without even knowing what their taxes actually fund.
Depressingly true as we likely have one of the most incredibly detached, apathetic, and ignorant electorates of any industrialized nation on earth. I suppose it would be heresy to suggest that our government run education camps might shoulder any blame. How could they, when we have all of these wondrous teachers' unions to assure us of only the highest quality instructorship for our yout's? All part and parcel of the same flawed paradigm; the more involved government gets (and especially a larger centralized government) the more fouled up the more expensive result.

I will say however that if ever anyone sees any kind of real value for their tax dollar it is typically more apt to occur at the local level. This is exactly why we should all start to work from that level to effect positive change. Easier said than done of course. I helped get our town Mayor and commissioners replaced, but the job of trying to talk anybody with real moral fiber or integrity into taking the job was incredibly difficult. For some reason the jobs only seem to really appeal to crooks and wanna be crooks with hyper-inflated egos.


People love to complain about laziness but nobody thanks me when I've been at work for 18 hours plowing their damn streets so they can get to work in the morning. Or when I have to work rotating 12-hour days after a storm blows through and 200 trees are on the ground.
Unless you are working for the poorest, most broke azzed municipality in Guatemala, I'm willing to bet your're at least getting time and a half or better if and when you do have to work those 18 hour days. I once worked at a bakery where we worked as many hours as it took, often 12-14 hours a day, and we only got off every other Sunday. The thing was, the more we worked, the more we made, so I stayed there until I had saved up enough to go out and start another business for myself.

That's the wonderful thing about working in America. Because I'm pretty certain all States have adopted the doctrine of "employed at will", you are free as a bird to quit any time that you please. I'm pretty sure that indentured servitude ended in the U.S. sometime back in the 1800's, so if you'd rather not work all of that over time when it's available maybe you should leave the job to someone else who will?

One of my best friends raises grass fed beef cattle. He's in his late 70's and is spry as a goat, which is really good because he still has to climb fences and slog through crap and muddy pastures in the sleet and rain to make sure that his animals are getting fed and moved and watered, every single day. He still manages to fit church into his usual 12 hour Sunday, but that just means that he has to work even later unless I'm available to drop by and give him a hand. His is a lifestyle that I'm sure is as foreign to a government employee as Mars is to me, but there are a lot of people that work in this country, who are not government employees, and who take that kind of load in stride. Haven't met a government employee yet who could or would, but then again, I'm not quite dead yet. :mug:


Oh... and for what it's worth, our tax dollars pay for everything. Your remark about what people know and don't know, well it's double that back at ya for what the average government employee doesn't seem to grasp. Just because half or a quarter of your local budget comes from the State, or some other Feral revenue scam, doesn't change squat about the fact that ultimately we pay for everything. Our reward of course is stuff like getting an overly-militarized police force that's more focused on punishing us and extracting additional revenues from us than they actually are about preventing or solving crimes. I have plenty of friends and family that are cops, and most will honestly admit what they dig about the job (driving fast, "subduing" suspects, et al,) and what they all universally despise (filling out reports... especially the ones that mean the most to us, like theft and accident reports) which is why they suck so bad at it. And don't ever doubt or forget, speed cameras are to public safety like the FDA is to food safety, which is to say neither one has anything at all to do with what they tell you they're for.
 
Hopfool: a person who claims to work harder than anyone yet has the time to type long diatribes on a web forum detailing all of his complaints.
I assure you... this is far from being all of my complaints.
Just so happens that I'm retarded, er... I meant retired, so I do what I want when I want, and right now it's pretty crappy out, so I'm buying books for Xmas and popping off in here at the same time. Ain't the internet grand? ;)
 
I assure you... this is far from being all of my complaints.

Just so happens that I'm retarded, er... I meant retired, so I do what I want when I want, and right now it's pretty crappy out, so I'm buying books for Xmas and popping off in here at the same time. Ain't the internet grand? ;)


Congrats on being able to retire comfortably. By all means, continue to yell at the kids to get off your lawn and tell us how kids today are lazy and don't work as hard as you did when you were our age. It's not at all tiresome.

I know everyone is entitled to their opinion and all that but resorting to name calling and putting down people who are just trying to get through the end of their day is just a tad off putting.
 
"Plenty" is a little vague, you are right. Thanks for clarifying your points, I agree with most of them.
It'd be a pretty boring world, or just a really strange one, if everybody agreed with each other on every point.

Especially with me. :)

Gotta get to the LHBS. :mug:
 
Congrats on being able to retire comfortably. By all means, continue to yell at the kids to get off your lawn and tell us how kids today are lazy and don't work as hard as you did when you were our age. It's not at all tiresome.

I know everyone is entitled to their opinion and all that but resorting to name calling and putting down people who are just trying to get through the end of their day is just a tad off putting.

Yeah I'm that guy... :D
Well not quite, but I do see myself becoming more and more my father.


Sorry to come off as such a preachy ********. :eek:

Probably past time for my meds... "Honey, can you pour me a beer?!" ;)
 
The most annoying thing... Is when people keep coming in and asking for drawings and you have to constantly remind them:

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"Nothing new after 2"
 
Secondly, where else in the world can you get a job and sit around doing nothing because someone might need you sometime in the future???

my job, working a help desk. I wait for stupid people to do stupid things, then call me begging for help

& I'm not doing "nothing", I'm reading/replying on HBT
 
my job, working a help desk. I wait for stupid people to do stupid things, then call me begging for help

& I'm not doing "nothing", I'm reading/replying on HBT

I hate it when the help desk assumes I'm stupid and that I somehow caused the problem, and then proceeds to insult me and accuse me instead of actually HELPING.

Not that this applies to you or anything.
 
we have a few guys that think they're Bill O'Reilly. no matter what's happening in the world they regurgitate everything he says and if you disagree or offer another point of view, they will try to cut you off. more than once I've gotten real loud and death meatal-y with, "I'm not done!". I really hate being cut off. especially by buttholes that refuse to see both side of the story.
 
we have a few guys that think they're Bill O'Reilly. no matter what's happening in the world they regurgitate everything he says and if you disagree or offer another point of view, they will try to cut you off. more than once I've gotten real loud and death meatal-y with, "I'm not done!". I really hate being cut off. especially by buttholes that refuse to see both side of the story.

Ha! So I am not the only one? I've worked on drilling rigs where I thought I would be lynched. I can respect a reasoned conservative opinion, but mostly it is not reasoned, or conservative, but just a bunch of spewing nonsense.

And I have often heard myself saying that shouting louder does not make your argument more convincing.
 
Ha! So I am not the only one? I've worked on drilling rigs where I thought I would be lynched. I can respect a reasoned conservative opinion, but mostly it is not reasoned, or conservative, but just a bunch of spewing nonsense.

And I have often heard myself saying that shouting louder does not make your argument more convincing.

my FIL is a "louder=more right" kind of FOX News enthusiast. I just smile politely and nod at him. I don't let the guys at work get away with that.
 
Those that use the "reply all" when responding to emails with useless information we dont need to know. I can control a lot of them by creating a rule to send them directly to my deleted mail but its still annoying.
 
we have a few guys that think they're Bill O'Reilly. no matter what's happening in the world they regurgitate everything he says and if you disagree or offer another point of view, they will try to cut you off. more than once I've gotten real loud and death meatal-y with, "I'm not done!". I really hate being cut off. especially by buttholes that refuse to see both side of the story.

I take this attitude towards all people, not just coworkers.
 
I hate it when the help desk assumes I'm stupid and that I somehow caused the problem, and then proceeds to insult me and accuse me instead of actually HELPING.



Not that this applies to you or anything.


Especially when it's a ****ty product you're calling about to start with.


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I hate it when the help desk assumes I'm stupid and that I somehow caused the problem, and then proceeds to insult me and accuse me instead of actually HELPING.

Not that this applies to you or anything.

Exactly. I'm an electrical engineer who has been using computers since I was 5 years old. I've also spent a short bit of my career on their side of the phone, so I understand "the script"

If my problem could be solved by "the script", I wouldn't be f*****g calling!
 
I hate it when the help desk assumes I'm stupid and that I somehow caused the problem, and then proceeds to insult me and accuse me instead of actually HELPING.

Not that this applies to you or anything.

I get some pretty stupid calls, but I never insult or accuse and the quicker I solve the problem, the quicker I can go back to doing nothing.

I have my customers trained so well, they call me before they start thinking they might begin to have an idea they may have a problem. I remind them they pay my company a lot of money to be able to call me. The maintenance contract we have with them is only for our application, but I let them know they can call me with any problem they come across.

as dumb as a lot of my customers are, they are some really nice people, I enjoy talking with most of them and I fully understand that without these idiots, I wouldn't have a job.
 
I get some pretty stupid calls, but I never insult or accuse and the quicker I solve the problem, the quicker I can go back to doing nothing.

I have my customers trained so well, they call me before they start thinking they might begin to have an idea they may have a problem. I remind them they pay my company a lot of money to be able to call me. The maintenance contract we have with them is only for our application, but I let them know they can call me with any problem they come across.

as dumb as a lot of my customers are, they are some really nice people, I enjoy talking with most of them and I fully understand that without these idiots, I wouldn't have a job.

Well, you might be one of the good ones. Our help desk is so bad that every single person in our company avoids talking to them, to the point that managers actually tell new hires to avoid talking to them.
 
I have a policy with all help desks. Give me bad service and I complain in writing. Every time. Give me good service, even just solving the problem quickly in a courteous tone "please push the button on the left. No, that one actually, not that one" and I send the person's manager a thank you in writing (well, email). Every time.

So far its worked for me.
 
My secret is TeamViewer.

Instead of taking 20 minutes trying to talk through fixing a problem, I remote in and fix it in 2
 
My secret is TeamViewer.

Instead of taking 20 minutes trying to talk through fixing a problem, I remote in and fix it in 2

Teamviewer is great. I use it to log into my computer from work or my phone.


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Just got called from work, and I'm not even on call. Then I get yelled at. Seriously? Look at the ****ing on call list before you call me!
 
The most annoying thing... Is when people keep coming in and asking for drawings and you have to constantly remind them:

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"Nothing new after 2"

Holy hell... I WISH we had that rule. I cant tell you how often my boss comes back at 3....4...or even 4:45 with "Hey, I need a map for my meeting tonight..."
 
Holy hell... I WISH we had that rule. I cant tell you how often my boss comes back at 3....4...or even 4:45 with "Hey, I need a map for my meeting tonight..."

This was the first thing that came to my mind:



(Somebody had to :D)
 
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That's one of the best movies ever. Good to watch if you ever get stressed out at work. My job has zero take home stress, so I watch it and remember how glad I am I'm away from that kind of work.


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