The San Diego area thread

[DannyFullpint]

I’ve not had it from the can yet, but I enjoy it. It’s so far different from what’s being passed off as a double IPA these days.

Trivia note: Pizza Port Carlsbad uses its own house yeast strain seperate from the Cal 001 Bressi uses for all it’s other canned beer. Mike from Carlsbad brought over a bucket of his yeast for this run of cans. Anyway, call around I’m sure there is a few sixers left.

 

[jwacky]

https://www.sandiegoville.com/2018/07/cohn-restaurant-group-to-open-25000.html

edit: Gah, sry....the link URL doesn't even provide the info (the article does though). Basically Cohn Restaurant Group is taking over that Depot Springs spot.

Interesting development. Draft Republic could/should be a nice anchor to that center.

 

[Tyrsis]

Interesting development. Draft Republic could/should be a nice anchor to that center.

Sounds cool. People have this weird dislike of Cohn, so there will be some vocal detractors.

 

[jwacky]

Sounds cool. People have this weird dislike of Cohn, so there will be some vocal detractors.

People hate their surcharge due to minimum wage increases. Maybe I've just got my head in that sand but it never really bothered me. Not sure what the difference is between that and increasing menu prices... the food and service is good at most all of their restaurants. It seemed like downtown La Mesa started to boom when Beau Bo went in there as well. They've got the $$$$ to invest properly. The Pioneer is 1.2 miles from my house. Draft Republic will be 2.1 miles. It beats the hell out of the possible alternatives, that's for sure!

 

[Tyrsis]

People hate their surcharge due to minimum wage increases. Maybe I've just got my head in that sand but it never really bothered me. Not sure what the difference is between that and increasing menu prices... the food and service is good at most all of their restaurants. It seemed like downtown La Mesa started to boom when Beau Bo went in there as well. They've got the $$$$ to invest properly. The Pioneer is 1.2 miles from my house. Draft Republic will be 2.1 miles. It beats the hell out of the possible alternatives, that's for sure!

They also have a restaurant that donates literally all of it's profits to charity, and they're big KPBS supporters.

shrug

 

[jwacky]

They also have a restaurant that donates literally all of it's profits to charity, and they're big KPBS supporters.

shrug

Shrug indeed. I will happily welcome them to the neighborhood.

 

[Tyrsis]

RIP Intergalactic. I never went, so... yeah

 

[jwacky]

RIP Intergalactic. I never went, so... yeah

RIP again, you mean.

 

[arren]

People hate their surcharge due to minimum wage increases. Maybe I've just got my head in that sand but it never really bothered me. Not sure what the difference is between that and increasing menu prices... the food and service is good at most all of their restaurants. It seemed like downtown La Mesa started to boom when Beau Bo went in there as well. They've got the $$$$ to invest properly. The Pioneer is 1.2 miles from my house. Draft Republic will be 2.1 miles. It beats the hell out of the possible alternatives, that's for sure!

I honestly feel bad for them. They're not the only ones who started a surcharge, but they're one of the first who publicly declared it for transparency's sake - and ended up getting **** on all over the place for it. Meanwhile, there are probably two or three other restaurant groups around who secretly either increased their prices or added the fee without letting the public know, and they don't get nearly the same amount of hate.

Basically, people ******* suck.

RIP Intergalactic. I never went, so... yeah

RIP again, you mean.

I'm honestly surprised it took this long.

 

[rcubed1]

Intergalactic did improve their beers quite a bit over the years but I think the location (and all the other competition nearby) and their scale did them in.

 

[sdreaper]

Intergalactic did improve their beers quite a bit over the years but I think the location (and all the other competition nearby) and their scale did them in.

I personally think it was lack of marketing. Yes, the location didn't exactly help since you had to know they were back there.

 

[Phischy1]

People hate their surcharge due to minimum wage increases. Maybe I've just got my head in that sand but it never really bothered me. Not sure what the difference is between that and increasing menu prices... the food and service is good at most all of their restaurants. It seemed like downtown La Mesa started to boom when Beau Bo went in there as well. They've got the $$$$ to invest properly. The Pioneer is 1.2 miles from my house. Draft Republic will be 2.1 miles. It beats the hell out of the possible alternatives, that's for sure!

I don't get the surcharge. It's a cost of doing business that wont decline. So the surcharge will just go up as min wage goes up? In a decade the surcharge will be there as reminder of the "old days"? Just raise your prices to reflect reality.

 

[chemman141]

I don't get the surcharge. It's a cost of doing business that wont decline. So the surcharge will just go up as min wage goes up? In a decade the surcharge will be there as reminder of the "old days"? Just raise your prices to reflect reality.

Agree 100%. The surcharge is a total political statement, nothing else.

 

[LSUPT]

Yeah, I hate when places have that surcharge, I'd much prefer a price increase. Prices are going to keep going up on everything and minimum wage increases should be expected. Additionally, it's flat out saying that the establishment didn't care enough about their employees to pay above the minimum wage prior to the increase, and now the customers should be expected to pay the bill?

 

[sdreaper]

Min wage goes up
Prices go up as a result
Min wage employees eventually realize that despite their salary increase they are still in the same area they were before that increase.
Complaints start again
Min wage goes up yet again
Prices go up as a result
<obvious circle of ******* continues>
...
...
...
Fallout happens.

 

[jwacky]

I personally think it was lack of marketing. Yes, the location didn't exactly help since you had to know they were back there.

That can be said for quite a few breweries, though. Most of them are in obscure warehouse complexes with little signage. Lack of marketing is huge. Plus, I always felt like those types of breweries are better served in more residential/neighborhood type spots. Think Bolt or Helix brewing companies. Neither are particularly interesting IMO but they serve as neighborhood meetup places and do quite well. When you operate in a more "destination" type location - travelling there for the purpose of beer - they're going up against some really heavy hitters. Alesmith, Mikkeller, Pure, etc. If I'm making a trip out to Miramar I'm making sure it's worthwhile. No offense, IMO, etc., etc.

 

[chemman141]

Min wage goes up
Prices go up as a result
Min wage employees eventually realize that despite their salary increase they are still in the same area they were before that increase.
Complaints start again
Min wage goes up yet again
Prices go up as a result
<obvious circle of ******* continues>
...
...
...
Fallout happens.

So ******* annoying lol.

 

[Sage1]

That can be said for quite a few breweries, though. Most of them are in obscure warehouse complexes with little signage. Lack of marketing is huge. Plus, I always felt like those types of breweries are better served in more residential/neighborhood type spots. Think Bolt or Helix brewing companies. Neither are particularly interesting IMO but they serve as neighborhood meetup places and do quite well. When you operate in a more "destination" type location - travelling there for the purpose of beer - they're going up against some really heavy hitters. Alesmith, Mikkeller, Pure, etc. If I'm making a trip out to Miramar I'm making sure it's worthwhile. No offense, IMO, etc., etc.

This isn’t meant to negate what you’re saying (I’m a big proponent of the “neighborhood pub” model as a means of bypassing a supposed saturation point), but I’d add that the warehouse model can work for some breweries because it serves as a rush hour wait-out spot. I know that New English can get quite busy during rush hour because of all the nearby Qualcomm sites. Similarly, since Miramar Rd turns into a disaster zone every weekday, some of the breweries in the western part and the core of Miramar definitely benefit from people waiting out.

If you look at Intergalactic in google maps, you can see that it’s in a transition region where it’s on the edge of an industrial zone but it’s only walkable from a tiny tiny fraction of Mira Mesa. So it doesn’t benefit from “trapping” commuters like the inner core of Miramar does, and it doesn’t benefit from being a “neighborhood” brewery. Not saying this is entirely why the business failed (BP Scripps Ranch has similar geography and obviously they’ve done just fine), but it’s another variable that I doubt did them any favors.

 

[jwacky]

52 East Eatery in Santee was delicious last night and had a decent local tap list as well.

That is all.

 

[rcubed1]

The Eater mentions Draft Republic Brewing will have a mini golf course. Also says they used to own Hang Ten Brewing. Kind of wish they would have brought that name back for the brewing side of this project.

 

[benbikes4beer]

The Eater mentions Draft Republic Brewing will have a mini golf course. Also says they used to own Hang Ten Brewing. Kind of wish they would have brought that name back for the brewing side of this project.

Collab with Segura and complete the circle.

While it would be completely off brand, would be funny if Pat opened as a Hang Ten reboot also.

 

[Sage1]

While it would be completely off brand, would be funny if Pat opened as a Hang Ten reboot also.

 

[Tyrsis]

the **** is this ****

http://burningbeardbrewing.com/index.php/delinquents-club/

 

[chemman141]

the **** is this ****

http://burningbeardbrewing.com/index.php/delinquents-club/

Saw someone post that on california beer calendar a couple months back. WTF is that **** indeed.

 

[jwacky]

Saw someone post that on california beer calendar a couple months back. WTF is that **** indeed.

If you ever thought that most of these member programs are simply cash grabs, this confirms your thoughts.

 

[mjlevy231]

If you ever thought that most of these member programs are simply cash grabs, this confirms your thoughts.

A+ membership would pin to my Pinterest again

 

[Tyrsis]

Do people actually want all that ****? Records? Stickers, patches. Magnets.

seriously, what is this?

I read all of that and think, "Oh, $150 for one beer. lol k"

 

[chemman141]

If you ever thought that most of these member programs are simply cash grabs, this confirms your thoughts.

Oh every single one is a cash grab, however I am OK with the cash grab if it gives me super easy access to all of their beers. I have an issue with memberships that only offer 1 beer every 2 months (looking at you de Garde)

 

[chemman141]

Do people actually want all that ****? Records? Stickers, patches. Magnets.

seriously, what is this?

I read all of that and think, "Oh, $150 for one beer. lol k"

I would really be curious how many people signed up for this.

 

[jwacky]

Oh every single one is a cash grab, however I am OK with the cash grab if it gives me super easy access to all of their beers. I have an issue with memberships that only offer 1 beer every 2 months (looking at you de Garde)

True. And yes, fine with a cash grab so long as I feel like I at least get my money's worth in guaranteed product and access. Which is the case with some. Some, not so much.