The Poo discussion

[slnies]

raid POO....wow that's just awesome.....kill roaches and cleanse your bowels in one motion.....

ok I can't make the long chained together thread twisting comments.....I'm drinking now....finally got that beer....btw Boulevard Brewing Wheat is SH!T

Ya, I don't do Boulevard wheat either. I do like Bell's Oberon though. Either way both make rather fertile poo.....

 

[slnies]

Pure mostly!

 

[StoutFan]

Oh, you mean pseudo-organic.........

 

[SchizoFilly]

yes, quasi-naturale

 

[slnies]

Oh, you mean pseudo-organic.........

No! Not organic at all. Just more pure. I think it should only be used as a reference to the use of carcinogenic chemicals on our foods or not. Of course I think it could go away completely too. Maybe we should use genetically altered super poo, manufactured at Dupont, so we could reap the beni's of both worlds. Oh, could we still call it organic?

 

[SchizoFilly]

Organic synthetic Super-Poo! I'm no NASCAR fan, but what color would they have to paint Jeff Gordon's car?

 

[slnies]

Organic synthetic Super-Poo! I'm no NASCAR fan, but what color would they have to paint Jeff Gordon's car?

Brown..........

 

[SchizoFilly]

would it run off ethanol and have pieces of corn painted on it?

 

[slnies]

As long as it is genetically modified corn that they are painting a rendition of. Maybe some pink strips for the GLBT crowd. Politically correct NASCAR! There's a thought for ya. They might start flinging Poo though, so maybe not such a good idea.

 

[SchizoFilly]

Is there a GLBT fan base in NASCAR? If so, WTF happened to the mullet rockin', beer drinkin', copenhagen dippin', wife beatin', sweat pants wearin', sister humpin', Dukes of Hazzard pretendin' good ol' days?

 

[DeathBrewer]

All this talk is crazy. Since when does making something with artificial means make it not organic? I thought organic simply meant that certain chemicals were not involved. Why couldn't genetically modified foods be organic?

 

[slnies]

Is there a GLBT fan base in NASCAR? If so, WTF happened to the mullet rockin', beer drinkin', copenhagen dippin', wife beatin', sweat pants wearin', sister humpin', Dukes of Hazzard pretendin' good ol' days?

NASCAR is like anything else these days. God forbid, don't piss off the GLBT crowd. They're whores dude, they will sell tickets to anyone buying. Isn't capitalism great?

 

[SchizoFilly]

All this talk is crazy. Since when does making something with artificial means make it not organic? I thought organic simply meant that certain chemicals were not involved. Why couldn't genetically modified foods be organic?

Somebody took us back to serious land......

The argument was that in order to be considered organic it could not have been modified or have come into direct or indirect contact with anything that had been modified, thus rendering nothing organic.

 

[slnies]

All this talk is crazy. Since when does making something with artificial means make it not organic? I thought organic simply meant that certain chemicals were not involved. Why couldn't genetically modified foods be organic?

Schizo has the jist, It all started over an argument with the neighbor. He thought I was being organic, when I decided to use POO on my hops. I however am not. The argument being that the poo coming from Menards was in fact not Organic in the liberal sense of the word, as the POO most likely contain genetically modified grain wast and was most likely processed by a genetically modified cow. Thus not organic.

 

[DeathBrewer]

Why? Why is modified non-organic? Is there a link I missed?

 

[slnies]

Why? Why is modified non-organic? Is there a link I missed?

Well you see, I agree with you. Organic is a term that chemists use to describe Carbon based compounds. That said the chemicals that a regular farmer uses to fertilize, weed and control pests are organic also making regular food organic by nature. The tree huggers disagree. So I say they are deluding themselves. They should call it "pure mostly" thus no more confusion.

 

[DeathBrewer]

"Genetically modified" is not as crazy as it sounds, anyway. They're not splicing rats with celery. They mostly use splicing and crossbreeding and create new plants. It's not like frankenstein's monster or anything. That's the way I understand it.

Organic, however, can have some importance. Only certain chemicals can be used and care is taken with the product to grow in it's natural environment without environmentally or otherwise harmful chemicals.

I would say, however, that if a cow ate NON-ORGANIC food, then she would be non-organic. If she was genetically modified, she could still be organic, as long as the food she consumed was organic.

Whatever, I'll eat her anyway.

 

[slnies]

"Genetically modified" is not as crazy as it sounds, anyway. They're not splicing rats with celery. They mostly use splicing and crossbreeding and create new plants. It's not like frankenstein's monster or anything. That's the way I understand it.

Organic, however, can have some importance. Only certain chemicals can be used and care is taken with the product to grow in it's natural environment without environmentally or otherwise harmful chemicals.

I would say, however, that if a cow ate NON-ORGANIC food, then she would be non-organic. If she was genetically modified, she could still be organic, as long as the food she consumed was organic.

Whatever, I'll eat her anyway.

Awh, Se now, there is the rub. A cow is organic by definition whether it is genetically modified or not. If by organic you are meaning more pure in the sense of less chemical etc... Then we should call it that. Organic is not a method or a set of practices. The word is used to describe a method and practice, but it would be more accurate to call it traditional or pure mostly.

 

[SchizoFilly]

"Genetically modified" is not as crazy as it sounds, anyway. They're not splicing rats with celery.

That's such a relief....I was worried that soon rats would lose all their flavor.

I would say, however, that if a cow ate NON-ORGANIC food, then she would be non-organic

At what point in the circle of life would this become organic again? If I eat the non-organic cow, am I then non-organic? Is the dung beetle (purely hypothetical) that eats my excrement then non organic? What about the bird that eats the dung beetle? What about the excrement from said bird that falls on an "organic" crop? Does that then make the crop non-organic?

 

[Neunelfer]

The discussion of "organic" or not isn't just simply if it is a carbon based molecule. They are two terms used separately.

 

[SchizoFilly]

Organic foods are made according to certain production standards. The use of conventional non-organic pesticides, insecticides and herbicides is greatly restricted and avoided as a last resort. However, contrary to popular belief, certain non-organic fertilisers are still used. If livestock are involved, they must be reared without the routine use of antibiotics and without the use of growth hormones, and generally fed a healthy diet. In most countries, organic produce may not be genetically modified.

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That's what wikipedia has to say, and I think it fits better with the marketing definition of organic.

 

[slnies]

You see. This is what happens when people try to redefine a word. For marketing no less. It's like the temper of a red head, They are short and explosive, so to be nicer we say they are firecrackers or they are little firey. No offense to red heads, Half my family fits into that category, but lets be honest. We just say that so possible relations are not scared away. Marketing! If people knew what they were getting into there wouldn't be so many issues.



Rant

 

[SchizoFilly]

yes, and it's a danger. If they just would have given the pigs their flu shot instead of making them "organic" we wouldn't have this scare that has gotten blown way out of proportion. 109 confirmed cases in the US with 1 death out of approximately 307,000,000 people in the US. That's 0.000000355% of the population and I have friends who won't take their kids into public, but they also buy only "organic". Coincidence?


EDIT: Yes I am aware the inoculation for the human influenza virus would have done absolutely nothing to prevent this outbreak as they are not the same strain of flu.

 

[Zul'jin]

It's composted manure. Tell me this wing nut ain't just dropping his kids off at the hop garden.

At work, we process waste water (from your toilet and every other drain in your house- sewerage it is) into clean water. We put that water into a local river. You can best believe, some of that makes it back to your tap. Our sludge (the stuff we extract from the waste water) is used on road sides and "agricultural applications".

Eat sh!t and die. Eat, sh!t and die. Either way, it's both ways. CHEERS!

 

[MikeFlynn74]

Ahh yes Organic- a clever ruse to get you to buy the **** no one else would have.

 

[Neunelfer]

It's composted manure. Tell me this wing nut ain't just dropping his kids off at the hop garden.

At work, we process waste water (from your toilet and every other drain in your house- sewerage it is) into clean water. We put that water into a local river. You can best believe, some of that makes it back to your tap. Our sludge (the stuff we extract from the waste water) is used on road sides and "agricultural applications".

Eat sh!t and die. Eat, sh!t and die. Either way, it's both ways. CHEERS!

Exactly.

Gotta love those recycled pesticides and pharmaceuticals that end up in our drinking water.

 

[Zul'jin]

Oh, man. Drugs in the water. We find pills in our screens that we can still read the names and doses on. Most times more destroyed than that but, no doubt they are pills. Little colored plastic street drug baggies, sometimes with drugs still in them. Syringes. And the condoms! Enough to latex the whole world. You know a lot of those have spermicide on them.

Me and another dude are going to start a business selling field tested condoms, absorbency proven tampons with free applicators and recycled corn on the cob.

 

[Dr_Deathweed]

Exactly.

Gotta love those recycled pesticides and pharmaceuticals that end up in our drinking water.

You do realize that 99% of the pharmaceuticals found in the water supply are the by products of human use, and not agricultural use?

Don't believe everything Pelosi ant those other anti-agriculture dips out there are spewing...

 

[Neunelfer]

You do realize that 99% of the pharmaceuticals found in the water supply are the by products of human use, and not agricultural use?

Don't believe everything Pelosi ant those other anti-agriculture dips out there are spewing...

I never said pharmaceuticals in the water had anything to do with agricultural.

 

[DeathBrewer]

Oh, man. Drugs in the water. We find pills in our screens that we can still read the names and doses on. Most times more destroyed than that but, no doubt they are pills. Little colored plastic street drug baggies, sometimes with drugs still in them. Syringes. And the condoms! Enough to latex the whole world. You know a lot of those have spermicide on them.

Me and another dude are going to start a business selling field tested condoms, absorbency proven tampons with free applicators and recycled corn on the cob.

Dude...I just threw up in my mouth a little bit...