Being older doesn't mean you know more than me it just means you've watched more Raiders games. I've been watching football for 25 years, I think that gives me enough experience to talk about it.
Again, you missed the point.. I have been watching raider games and following the team 'closely' for more than 4 decades... You throw out 'drive by' tired rhetoric about 'the raiders' and about "Al Davis' that belie your ignorance on 'those' subjects...
YOU ARE FLAT WRONG!
Al Davis can demand all he wants but the fact is that the Oakland Raiders have been terrible since 2002 and this season is the first sign of life we have seen since then. There has been a coaching carousel and many many bad draft picks in that time. Al Davis was once a genius but it doesn't look like he is anymore.
okay, more facts for you..
Drafting is a crap shoot .. PERIOD! Compounded by the fact that the worse you are in a given season, the higher you pick, meaning the bigger penalty you pay if you pick a college player that doesn't transition well into the NFL... 'IT'S A GAMBLE!'
It takes an 'average' of three to five years to assess if a player is going to actually 'make' that 'transition'...
The speed of the NFL, and the quality of the players, and the size and strength of the players in the NFL is exponentially greater than in college.. So unless you have a crystal ball, again 'IT'S A CRAP SHOOT!'
And that's 'before' you factor in the reality that youngsters today are often spoiled brats, who expect that they are 'owed' something just for belong squirted out of a birth canal with some good genes.. (or even without).. of course, at your age you might not have any 'perspective' of that 'yet'.. (but at the exponential rate of decline in society, you will 'soon')... As someone who has watched this sport 'closely' for a 'long time' (in relation to you anyways), I can tell you that drafting a class that produces 4 starters (productive ones at that) in their rookie years, is indeed an 'excellent' draft.. To say otherwise shows 'ignorance' (I did not call you an idiot!) on your part...
The Vikings did in fact fire their terrible head coach. He should have been fired years ago. It is true that we have not had a decent head coach since Denny Green but the Vikings, and most other teams, do not repeatedly fire head coaches after less than 2 seasons and they certainly don't fire them (Kiffin) because they refuse to play what is the worst QB drafted since Ryan Leaf.
'again' your ignorance is showing.... you 'obviously' did not follow what was going on in the raiders org when kiffen was smoked.. Kiffin was offered the opportunity of a lifetime.. but he pissed on it.. thinking he was 'all that'.. If he was such a great thing, why did 'every' NFL team pass him up. not only for a HC job, but for assistant or coordinator or assistant to the coordinator? Yeah, he crapped where he slept, and the rest of the league 'understanding that' passed him by..
What say you about that?
As far as Cable goes I have trouble having any respect for him as a person. The allegations against him, if true, are that he is a woman beater and he broke his assistants jaw. He should have been fired right then. Where's the character?
Listen lady.. what in the hell does 'that' have to do with what he is doing with the Raiders? If you have evidence that the man has done something illegal, then go ahead and present it and demand justice! You are no different than the people who want to continually crucify Vick for his past abuse of animals, even though he has paid for his crimes and is attempting to take advantage of the opportunity offered to him...
Again, not a Raiders fan just an outside perspective that I can communicate without insulting you.
actually, you're use of 'FALSE' (inflammatory) rhetoric (that you have demonstrated is nothing but rhetoric) is in itself insulting to me.. It is an propagandic attempt at 'intimidation' (whether you acknowledge the fact or not) to bolster yourself and your lack of argument by belittling another...
This is the same crap that your generation is using in American politics that you have been purposefully programmed to use, and you are 'surprised' by the outcry of joe (older generation) public that 'enough is enough'....
I would think at 53 years old you would be capable of having a civilized disagreement. Not calling me ignorant or speaking to me as if I were a child.
I am fully capable of that indeed, if ever I am faced with a 'knowledgeable' and 'sincere' argument from someone who does not feel it is his duty to use the latest media rhetoric (which is 'intentionally designed' to get a reaction for the purposes of ratings), to try and smack down another whom he himself thinks is 'deluded'....
To me, you still 'are' a child.. unless you show otherwise.. In fact, I 'currently' just look at you as a predictable product of the intended system... SHOW ME WHY I SHOULDN'T....
Again.. I stand by my assertion that when it comes to the raiders and al davis, you don't know what the hell you are talking about.. (not even a little) You're just robotically repeating the BS that is fed you by the 'stupid tube' and your equally brilliant friends...
BTW, did you happen to catch the beat down the raider put on the thiefs today? That 'meaningless game' cost the thiefs the #3 seed in the playoffs, and probably sent Cassel to the hot tub for the rest of the week.. I lost count of how many times he was sacked..
If it wasn't for the 35 yard scamper by their latest and greatest, the number one rushing attack in the league would have been held to less than 50 yards.. And M Bush alone rushed for 127 yards for the raiders.. Since you seem to like stats so much... But 'again' they don't really tell the story.. The beat down was 'much' worse than the stat story tells...
First time a team has swept it's division and not made the playoffs since the merger..
And if you'd watched the game you'd have seen Jared Veldheer, (a very big man) 'run away' from line backers not once but twice to make critical blocks busting Jacoby Ford and Michael Bush loose for 'big; plays.. And then you'd have to hear the notorious raider hating ex chargirl QB comment that an 'amazing' season Veldheer is having 'for a rookie'..
Of course I could go back and refer you to the comments by rivers, and toothlessburger, and manning and others about how 'scary' the raiders front seven is.. but what do they know, they only have to face them in real games... But I know, you'd cal them 'fanatics' because you have 'stats' to show them where they're wrong... They shuold have asked 'you' first before opening their ignorant pie holes...
Hey did you happen to see the continual pressure that Houston was creating today? What, 'that' doesn't show up in your 'stats?'.. For shame.. how could you know..
I have only watched two or three vikings games this year.. and honestly, I don't follow them that close.. And as such, I know how to pick my battles.. and would 'never' dare to argue with a 'real' fan of the team about what their strengths and weaknesses are, what their history is, what their front office is doing right and wrong.. because I 'understand' how much I follow my team, and know so much more about them than the fans of 'other' teams.. and if I was 'stupid' enough to try and tell them how their team is, and they instantly showed me that maybe they know more about 'their team' than I do, I'd humbly back off...
But 'thats me'
Because at the stupid ole age of 53, I realize that I can't know everything, unlike many of the younger guys I meet today, am wise enough to not get arrogant when I am on shakey ground...
But you do what you feel is smart, oh wise one...
Furthermore, I never brought up jack shyatt about stats... That was purely your domain... FACT....
I gotta give you this.. Where the Vikes were not even on my radar.. Now I can't friggin' wait until they have to face our front seven again...
Hey, since you like stats.. I got one for you... The average age of our receiving corps is 23 (youngest in the league.. since you liked to bag on DHB in his second year).. I can't wait till their lame asses face your Viking DBs when they're '28' or '30'... As I've been watching players develop over their careers for 'decades' and there are 'few' owners who have been as good at developing receivers as stupid ole dumb ass senile Al Davis.. I look forward to that 'look on your face'...
Meh, I shouldn't bother with your myopic BS.. after all, you're just feeding off of what your dad is still pissed about when the Raiders punked your vikqueens out of a ring in '76.. That was a great day.. Do you remember it?... No?.. I do...
