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Do you like burritos?

  • Yes but I'm anti adjuncts

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    48
The Beers:
1 - Reality Maze: Banana Coconut Cream Pie Edition
Style: Pastry Stout w/ Coconut, Vanilla, & Banana
Score: 4.3
Notes: The base on this is very similar to the Reality Maze that was released in July 2019, although the ABV went up slightly, and a new set of adjuncts was used. This time, they added Madagascar vanilla at a rate of .63 lbs/bbl, coconut at a rate of 17 lbs/bbl (half toasted/half untoasted), and dried wild Thai bananas at a rate of 8.3 lbs/bbl. The dried bananas were stewed in a kettle with a small portion of the beer until they mostly broke down, then that slurry was added to the recirculation tank through which the rest of the batch was pumped to impart banana character. Dense, overripe bananas are prominent on the aroma, followed by coconut and vanilla that are roughly in balance, semisweet chocolate, and light baking spices wafting around in the background. Coconut and light spices hit first on the tongue, giving way to chocolate-covered bananas. The vanilla really pulls the cocoa notes out of the base beer and creates a rich milk-chocolate note that melds beautifully with the bananas. Coconut pops back in towards the backend but acts as a supporting element through a finish of vanilla, chocolate, and bananas. The body is towards the middle of the road for a pastry stout, and it's surprisingly not terribly sweet for the style and adjuncts. I certainly wouldn't call it dry, but it's nowhere near Doom Hawk territory. I suspect a lot of you are wary of this one on paper, but several people remarked last night that it worked better than they were expecting.

2 - Modem Tones Aged in Bourbon Barrels w/ Vanilla
Style: Bourbon BA Stout w/ Vanilla
Score: 4.5
Notes: If there's one beer in Modern Times' portfolio that needs no introduction, it's Modem Tones w/ Vanilla. This year's release is a blend of three batches that were aged from eight to ten months in a variety of bourbon barrels, including Heaven Hill, Four Roses, Woodford, and Old Fitzgerald. They conditioned the blend on a mix of 55% Mexican vanilla and 45% Madagascar vanilla at a rate of 1 lb/bbl, which is tied for the second most vanilla they've ever used, behind only MT Ultra: Vanilla Edition. The taster came out a bit too cold and seemed rather boozy on first blush, but a few minutes of cradling the glass like a degenerate Gollum clutching his precious sugar water warmed it right up. Vanilla dominates the aroma with a blend of creamy sweetness, spices, and touches of floral character. Deep, sweet chocolate provides a canvas for the aforementioned vanilla, complemented by assertive bourbon and touches of vanilla-heavy oak. On the palate, a dry, dark cocoa note leads but is quickly subsumed by bourbon-tinged vanilla, creating a fudgy amalgam redolent of fresh brownie batter. Vanilla acts as both a focus and complementary note, standing out but also building into the chocolate character from the base beer. A long, sweet finish of boozy brownie batter coats the back of the tongue. Thick, fudgy, with restrained heat. I think a few months will benefit it, but it's better out of the gate than batch two was.

3 - Modem Tones Aged in Bourbon Barrels w/ Vanilla, Hazelnuts, & Maple Syrup
Style: Bourbon BA Stout w/ Vanilla, Hazelnuts, & Maple Syrup
Score: 4.75
Notes: This variant uses the same base blend as MTV, but the adjunct mix is .75 lbs/bbl Madagascar vanilla, 7.5 lbs/bbl roasted & salted hazelnuts (roasted in-house by the special projects team), and 3.3 lbs/bbl barrel-aged maple syrup. The nose opens with a wave of vanilla, but roasty hazelnuts join the fray quickly, along with assertive bourbon, maple syrup, and dark chocolate. As it warms, the adjuncts ebb and flow but never to extremes of dominance or subservience - they always work harmoniously, leaving room for the base to express itself. The flavor mostly follows the nose, as a wave of vanilla arrives first, quickly melding with hazelnuts and the fudgy base beer to throw of hints of Nutella, backed by maple syrup, bourbon, and sweet oak notes. The maple really comes out the longer it sits in the glass and builds a maple syrup-soaked Nutella finish that coats the palate in the best way possible. The body is thick but not overwhelming. I'd say they surpassed batch one with this - decadent, beautifully integrated, and utterly delicious.

4 - Transit of Venus Aged in Gin Barrels
Style: Gin BA Funky Rye Grisette
Score: 4.4
Notes: Several people asked if the gin barrels were the same as Slow Ice (Stonecutter gin) - they are not. This batch of Transit of Venus was fermented in a medium-toast American oak foeder, then aged in gin barrels from Koval and Caledonia Spirits for three months. The aroma is a harmonious symphony of complementary scents. Earthy and barnyardy funk pop out first with wet forest floor, light hay, and horse blanket, followed by gin barrel - juniper, coriander, eucalyptus, and white pepper - that is assertive but not overwhelming. Mild lactic acidity, touches of rye spice, minerality, and hints of oak work in the background. On the tongue, a spritz of lemony tartness gives way to rye and dry oak before earthy funk strikes on the mid-palate, while gin brings a sweet complementary element with more coriander and eucalyptus than juniper. The base beer's minerality and rye spice pop in towards the backend, leading to a funky, rustic finish tinged by gin botanicals. Effervescent mouthfeel, this one is both something I could crush pints of and spend an hour and a half just smelling. The gin barrels are remarkably restrained compared to Slow Ice, providing well-integrated flavors without being overbearing.

5 - School of Certain Victory
Style: Red Wine BA Blond Sour w/ Apricots
Score: 4.0
Notes: The base blend for this is a selection of blond sours aged in red wine barrels between one and three years, which they refermented on fresh Sunny Cal Farms Robada apricots (4 lbs/gallon) and B&R Farms Blenheim apricot puree (2 lbs/gallon). It only takes one whiff to understand why they used so much fruit, as apricot leaps right out of the glass. Think perfectly ripe apricot flesh and skin, with just hints of a juicy aspect backing it. The base beer asserts itself rather quickly with robust lactic acidity, along with oak and touches of funk. The flavor mostly follows the script, with substantial fleshy apricot and massive tartness. Oak provides some structure around the edges and hints of funk poke through, but this is a reasonably linear duel between fruit and acid. While the apricot character is outstanding, I'm left with the feeling that I'd enjoy it far more if it was less sour. The soft acidity from Valley of Sound is more my pace. I really can't overstate how stellar the fruit is in this beer, but your overall enjoyment is going to depend on how sour you like your beers. This isn't into Upland territory, but it's hitting a bit harder than I'd prefer.
 
MTV and the Hazelnut, Vanilla, Maple version were both crazy good. My favorite batch of either. HVM is (was) intense. MTV seemed thicker/fudgier than last year.

Gin barrel Transit of Venus was the surprise for me. Went in to the tasting indifferent about it, left buying my allotment.

Reality Maze was better than I expected, but I'm a sucker for banana. Also left the tasting buying more than I intended.
 
February 2020 Preview Tasting

Assorted Notes
1 - Steven and Leanne hosted the Monday tasting again, and Steven was in top form. He was kind enough to discuss his daily protein intake, his favorite flavor of protein supplement, and even flex for us. Repeatedly. For those playing at home, he recommends Syntha 6's chocolate protein powder. Not a bad choice, but MyProtein.com's snickerdoodle flavor is preferable, in my opinion. MyProtein.com's product also has better macros at a lower price. Still, I'm not the one wearing thin white t-shirts on a cold February evening and flexing in front of a bunch of beer geeks, so perhaps he's the more appropriate authority on supplement choices.

2 - Derek Freese was in the house again and, aside from performing a public service by heckling the **** out of Steven, he filled us in on upcoming events:
2a - Unless you've been living under a rock, you know that Carnival of Caffeination is on Saturday at Liberty Station from 12pm to 4pm (VIP entry at 11am). The League keg is Chaos Grid: Pastrypalooza, and the Theory keg is Beastmaster Aged in Bourbon Barrels: Marshmallow Latte Edition. They posted a partial beer list for guest breweries earlier today, and there's some absolute fire, but honestly, your best bet is to simply wander around, asking people what they've enjoyed and try random beers.
2b - Second Halloween will be taking place at Lomaland and Belmont on 02/14 since Valentine's Day is stupid and undeserving of celebration. Keep an eye on Modern Times' social media channels for details on the costume contests and assorted festivities.
2c - Festival of Funk is still scheduled for 04/18 at Liberty Station. More info on that if/when we manage to survive Caffeination.
2d - The annual tie-dye party will again be held on 04/20. I got my lifetime fill of tie-dye being raised by hippies, but those of you who prefer a colorful wardrobe should have fun with it.

3 - Progress in Anaheim is accelerating. Modern Times' COO Chris Sarette sent out an internal memo yesterday, updating employees on the project. Derek was kind enough to tell us that it contained a whole ton of words spread across six or seven paragraphs, but refused to share even a single detail. Things are on track, though.

4 - In case you missed the email, our draft beer credits are ready to be used. They can be used for tasters, pints, or crowlers - no on-site bottles or beers to go from the Mini Mart. In past years, people have saved their credit, hoping to use it on a special crowler fill or...I don't even know what. Just use it the next time you're at a Modern Times tasting room, so you don't have to worry about it at the end of the year.

5 - We didn't sample it during the tasting, but be sure to stock up on DDH Dinosaur World during the online sale if it's something you want to drink from the comfort of your couch. It's very rare for cans of IPA to sell out during the online sale, but past batches of Dinosaur World have achieved that feat. The number of League members has grown considerably since then, as has Modern Times' popularity. Consider yourselves warned.
 
The Beers:
1 - Dragon Mask Aged in Maple Bourbon Barrels
Style: Pastry Stout Aged in Maple Bourbon Barrels
Score: 4.35
Notes: This release is a 50/50 blend of batches of Dragon Mask that spent 18 and 24 months each in maple bourbon barrels. While Modern Times usually creates their own maple bourbon barrels by filling bourbon barrels with Vermont maple syrup, these particular barrels were sourced from Bissell Maple Farm in Ohio. Also, this question tends to come up each time a new Dragon Mask or Beastmaster variant is released, so for the sake of clarity - these new releases with those bases do not contain the original adjuncts. This is not the original churro stout version of Dragon Mask aged in maple bourbon barrels. It's just the base stout aged in those barrels. The aroma opens with rich, wood-tinged maple and vanilla-laden bourbon, followed by assertive dark cocoa, burnt caramel, toffee, and hints of leather wafting around in the background. The maple character on the nose carries less sweetness than you might expect, throwing off syrupy decadence without a cloying, sugary edge. Bourbon leads the way on the palate but quickly gives way to burnt caramel and semisweet dark chocolate, along with barrel-derived vanilla. Maple syrup comes in towards the backend and coats the palate, leading to a long syrupy finish of bourbon-tinged, maple-soaked chocolate. The viscous body and chewy mouthfeel are fitting for such a maple-heavy beer, carrying the syrupy flavor without coming across as overly sweet. The nose is a bit boozier than you'd expect from the flavor, but the base beer rises to the challenge, and I love how the maple notes help coax so much caramel and toffee out of Dragon Mask.

2 - Chaos Grid: Joy Edition
Style: Blend of Bourbon Barrel-Aged Pastry Stouts w/ Coconut, Almonds, & Cocoa Nibs
Score: 4.75
Notes: The original description for this in the preview email was a bit ambiguous, but as with all releases in the Chaos Grid series, it was barrel-aged. The base blend for this version is 40% Suggestion of Mass aged in bourbon barrels for sixteen months, 33% Beastmaster aged in bourbon barrels for eight months, and 27% Mega Devil's Teeth aged in bourbon barrels for six months. They hit that blend with cocoa nibs at a rate of 3.3 lbs/bbl (67% Dominican nibs/33% Peruvian nibs), roasted salted almonds at a rate of 5.4 lbs/bbl, and raw coconut at a rate of 22 lbs/bbl. Sweet coconut immediately leaps out of the glass along with sweet milk chocolate, lightly roasted almonds, baking spice-tinged bourbon, barrel-derived vanilla, and touches of caramel lurking at the edges. A quick wave of bourbon hits the tongue first but is subsumed by rich coconut and dark chocolate, with almond, light spices, vanilla, and faint oak supporting in the background. A bourbon-derived cherry note comes in towards the back, complementing the bourbon-soaked candy bar finish that lingers on and on and on, in the best way possible. A thick body that doesn't quite tread into chewiness carries the flavors well but doesn't overwhelm. I've seen some polarizing opinions about the nature of Almond Joy - some people say it's a delicious candy bar, others say it's garbage. Let me frame the comparison this way - CG: Joy Edition flawlessly delivers on what the theoretical ideal for Almond Joy would be, a candy bar constructed from high-quality ingredients rather than commodity-level processed garbage, carrying massive coconut flavor complemented by deftly-sweetened chocolate and roasted almonds, coated in a layer of bourbon goodness. It slaps early, it slaps often, and it slaps hard.

3 - Prometheus Effect
Style: Funky Farmhouse Ale
Score: 4.5
Notes: Each release of the Prometheus Effect has had different base components in varying proportions, this year's features 50% Celestial City aged for four months in clay amphorae and 50% Transit of Venus aged for one and a half months in an oak foeder. The nose is a lovely melange brimming with complexity - deep minerality from the amphorae, hay, barnyard funk, sweet freshly baked white bread, pear, white wine, touches of apricot flesh, restrained lactic acidity, faint chicken coop notes, and bits of bog/wet soil that barely poke through. Nothing dominates, nothing gets lost, it's a harmonious symphony of scents that begs to be both analyzed and enjoyed. On the palate, a light burst of acidity primes the pump for a wave of fruit - pear, green apple, white grapes, and faint nectarine - along with barnyard funk, horse blanket, and vibrant minerality that dovetails beautifully with the barnyard notes. Fruit pops back in for a lightly acidic finish. Light bodied with effervescent carbonation. This is the best version of Prometheus Effect yet and has me hyped for more beers in this vein - restrained acidity, deep Brett-driven complexity, complemented by nuances derived from a variety of aging vessels. Inject that rustic **** right into my veins.

4 - Looking Backward
Style: Blend of Sour Blonds Aged in Red Wine Barrels
Score: 3.5
Notes: This is the second release of Looking Backward - last seen in 2015 - and is comprised of 75% blond sour aged in red wine barrels for eighteen months and 25% blond aged in red wine barrels for approximately three years. A burst of sulfur hits first on the nose, giving way to chicken coop and a big, broad funk profile centered on barnyard and horse blanket. Touches of acidity, vinous notes, oak, and stone fruit waft around in the background, but it's very much a funk-dominated aroma. The flavor is a bit more complex, as restrained acidity transforms quickly into light stone fruits with vinous undertones, assertive barrel character, a significant wheat and bready grain note, and moderate barnyardy funk. There are a lot of good pieces here - restrained acidity, a good funk profile, and some nice fruit esters - but it's somewhat disjointed, and the sulfur on the nose is a bit unpleasant. I'm hopeful that the rough edges clean up over time, but I'm a bit surprised at the lack of refinement in the blend.

5 - Double-Fruited Star Metal
Style: Super Berliner w/ Blood Orange, Guava, Pineapple, & Hibiscus
Score: 3.75
Notes: This new, extra-fruited version of Star Metal was brewed with a process similar to their beefy Mega Berliners and features 1700 lbs of pineapple, 2125 lbs of guava, 1680 lbs of blood orange, and 60 lbs of hibiscus. Past batches contained 1260 lbs of each fruit and 30 lbs of hibiscus, so they weren't messing around with the adjunct rates on this. The aroma is one big wave of tropical fruit, with sharp pineapple hitting first, but guava comes in strong and powers through, supported by blood orange and lactic acidity. Fruit hits hard immediately on the palate with guava taking a lead role and blood orange doing a better job of asserting itself, but the backend doesn't quite come together - the fruit falls off, giving way to an odd slightly peppery/slightly phenloic note on top of an overly soft, almost watery finish. This one seemed a bit polarizing based on my conversations at the tasting - many people didn't pick up on the odd finish, while some of us loved the fruit but just couldn't get past the disjointed palate. If you generally enjoy Modern Times' kettle sours, you'll very likely be a fan of this one; it just didn't quite come together for me.
 
I’m guessing it’s a long shot as to whether anyone knows the answer to this, but is Booming Rollers only available via the upcoming special release sale? Also, does anyone have a clue if this batch is up to the standards of the first batch or two? (I remember the last few iterations being fairly mediocre)
 
I’m guessing it’s a long shot as to whether anyone knows the answer to this, but is Booming Rollers only available via the upcoming special release sale?
Yes, it's a special batch brewed for the online sale, not a full distro release.

Also, does anyone have a clue if this batch is up to the standards of the first batch or two? (I remember the last few iterations being fairly mediocre)
No idea. Preview tastings aren't a thing for fairly obvious reasons and as far as I know, no one that's not on MT's payroll has tried it yet.
 
Hey all, MT let us film at their Point Loma location all over the place back in January for a docuseries called Hopping. Apparently they hadn't let any shows film in a long time, so I thought you may find it interesting.

If you don't care about travel (the show is all about hitching to and featuring breweries) or Border X (the other San Diego brewery we featured) then just skip to the 12-minute mark where the Modern Times segment with Andrew Schwartz begins:
(Link to media)
 
First post since Jun 18 2020.

Creating a MT-run League FB group was genius for MT. It took the air out of the threads here and on BA, and MT can control the conversation on the FB group.
 
What caused the ruckus for Jacob to step down early? I knew the plan was for him to transition anyway but his blog post comes off a little more urgent than the words he was actually saying in it.
 
What caused the ruckus for Jacob to step down early? I knew the plan was for him to transition anyway but his blog post comes off a little more urgent than the words he was actually saying in it.
MT got named a bunch of time in @ratmagnet's IG stories on sexism in the brew industry
 
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