We should have finished those PKs bottom line. On to SJ this weekend and hopefully an MLS Cup and CONCACAF Cup.
The [Horribly Unpopular] Soccer Thread
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Reno_eNVy
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Fair enough on the bidding... I don't claim to be a Seattle expert, I must have just misunderstood something.
However...
However...
lgilmore
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"These were sealed bids that were determined to be "equal", but never disclosed. A coin toss was done, but never seen, and the game was awarded to KC. It doesn't hurt that members of the KC organization sit on the board for this... Just poor administrative form. In this day and age when everything is on the net, there is no real excuse not to show the coin toss. Also please note.. the first Seattle cup win was in DC not Seattle."
To your "however" note I said "appearance" of match fixing. They declared the bids "Equal"? That's questionable with a 68,000 seat stadium vs. a 18,000 seat stadium that in the year prior had 40,000+ in attendence. There was no physical way KC could match the bid "equally". Then it went to a coin toss? A coin toss nobody saw? What might you do to end the suspect of match fixing in this case? At a minimum, record the coin toss and publish it. VERY easy to do. Did the KC administration who sit on the commitee for USsoccer recluse themselves? maybe they tossed the coin? Again, easily solved. It was the fact they kept things somewhat secret that they didn't need to that raises the question.
And prior to this match Seattle "lost" 3 or 4 coin tosses for games, that nobody saw.... Transparency doesn't cost much and would have eliminated any question. Poor management decisions that lead to mistrust of an organization. warranted? maybe yes, maybe not. The problem "is" they can't prove fairness either way. While losing four coin tosses in a row is probable, is it likely? Simple video recordings with some newspaper or tv reporters in the room, would have taken doubt away.
To your "however" note I said "appearance" of match fixing. They declared the bids "Equal"? That's questionable with a 68,000 seat stadium vs. a 18,000 seat stadium that in the year prior had 40,000+ in attendence. There was no physical way KC could match the bid "equally". Then it went to a coin toss? A coin toss nobody saw? What might you do to end the suspect of match fixing in this case? At a minimum, record the coin toss and publish it. VERY easy to do. Did the KC administration who sit on the commitee for USsoccer recluse themselves? maybe they tossed the coin? Again, easily solved. It was the fact they kept things somewhat secret that they didn't need to that raises the question.
And prior to this match Seattle "lost" 3 or 4 coin tosses for games, that nobody saw.... Transparency doesn't cost much and would have eliminated any question. Poor management decisions that lead to mistrust of an organization. warranted? maybe yes, maybe not. The problem "is" they can't prove fairness either way. While losing four coin tosses in a row is probable, is it likely? Simple video recordings with some newspaper or tv reporters in the room, would have taken doubt away.
Thought we had at least a draw. Lenhart is a totally dramatic pain and a great player at the same time. Too bad we brought in the normal starting team in the 80th minute.
HoppyDaze
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anyone see Portland's second goal last night? Very nice...
GarageDweller
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USA 1 - 0 Mexico
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BrewKnurd
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I loved when Ian said that the refs and security needed to do something about it. Because finding that guy with a laser pointer in the stands is going to be SUCH a simple exercise.......
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DregAddict
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Wow, I'll deal with the laser pointer. And I thought being the only white-boy team in Mexican Sunday league was dangerous.
It's opening match day in the Premier League! Let's go Gunners! Grab a pint and let's go!
Fulham can stay at the Cottage
Southampton can stay at the Dell
And as for Tottenham hotspur
They can go to hell, to hell
So we'll drink, drink together
In praise of the AFC
Drink, drink together
In praise of the AFC
Fulham can stay at the Cottage
Southampton can stay at the Dell
And as for Tottenham hotspur
They can go to hell, to hell
So we'll drink, drink together
In praise of the AFC
Drink, drink together
In praise of the AFC
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.......And Van Persie can go to Old Trafford.
*sigh* yeah the rich get richer, but I shan't lose faith! Now all the Laker, Heat and Yankee fans have one more reason to buy a Man U. kit.
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Reno_eNVy
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.......And Van Persie can go to Old Trafford.
Ouch
I don't follow EPL as super rabidly as I do MLS but I know that one hurts.
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Reno_eNVy
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WOO! MLS matches start early today. Seattle are opening their full stadium again. The projected attendance is about 55,000 but that might be a low-ball. They were expecting roughly that many for SEAvLA but got 60,000+
BrewKnurd
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sethcros said:
Well, I would argue the ones that are off frame are worse, but that one was undeniably terrible.
BrewKnurd
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sethcros said:
me too, both cuz I like underdogs and because one of the guys in my fantasy league had two man city defenders.
