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Really? Longhammer?
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/18134/34688

I don't base MY personal tastes off of the general public, but when you're going to say that the best beer in the world, hands down, is Long Hammer IPA, you're assuming that at least three people agree with you.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/16866/51257
This is my favorite.

According to other people, there are better beers but this is one that I like a lot.

see how that works? haha.

I know their rating of it. Remember the part where I said From a cost vs. quality standpoint of course."?
I prefer MANY beers over it, but cost wise its the winner IMO...MMMMM Bell's Two Hearted, Torpedo, Mojo, Mojo Risin', Big Sky IPA, DFH 60, Hop Stoopid, MGD 64 (just kidding), Lagunitas IPA and APA, Bubble Jack, the Unforgiven, and on and on. All so tasty yet so pricey.:drunk:
 
Te gustibus non disputandum.

Longhammer is OK, but I've got a big selection of locals here that I like better. On the other hand, I'm not a big fan of Mojo - but I think a lot of this comes down to how hard it is to transport beer successfully and not have it damaged in transit. The farther you are from where it's made, the more chance it has had to deteriorate.
 
Yeah, I have noticed they seem to be a very popular style on the forum, it's my dad's favorite style too. To me they just taste like hop tea.

They're not for everyone that's for sure. I went a little nuts on them for a while and lost my taste for everything else, but I've turned that around and am appreciating other styles again. There's too many good ones out there to just get stuck on one, but IPA is still my favorite.:mug:
 
I can totally see Red Hook being one of the leaders in the quality/cost ratio category.

When I was in college, Red Hook was the second most expensive beer at the stores in Chapel Hill, which is a decent beer town. Only Sierra Nevada was regularly more expensive. I loved Red Hook ESB. Then AB got a chunk of them, and the ESB got toned down a bit (I can't state a correlation between the two events for sure). They still make good beers, and they've gotten cheaper since they got included in the AB distribution structure. A decent beer at a good price.
 
Really? Longhammer?
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/18134/34688

I don't base MY personal tastes off of the general public, but when you're going to say that the best beer in the world, hands down, is Long Hammer IPA, you're assuming that at least three people agree with you.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/16866/51257
This is my favorite.

According to other people, there are better beers but this is one that I like a lot.

see how that works? haha.


People on beer advocate like a rare imperial stout? I did not see that coming.
 
I know their rating of it. Remember the part where I said From a cost vs. quality standpoint of course."?
I prefer MANY beers over it, but cost wise its the winner IMO...MMMMM Bell's Two Hearted, Torpedo, Mojo, Mojo Risin', Big Sky IPA, DFH 60, Hop Stoopid, MGD 64 (just kidding), Lagunitas IPA and APA, Bubble Jack, the Unforgiven, and on and on. All so tasty yet so pricey.:drunk:

hahahahaha me, READ?

fine then, Old Rasputin, for sure!
 
It's fun to read what people outside of the Pacific Northwest consider great IPAs.

But to join the fun, I think Green Giant's Canned Corn is the best Corn EVER!!!!!
 
Actually when I was a teenager, I asked my dad, "What is the best beer you've ever had?"

He said, "When I was playing Semi-Pro Hockey they had a cooler of beer in the locker room that was sitting in ice water. After the game, I grabbed one and drank it. That was the best beer I've ever had."

"What brand was it?" I asked.

"I have no idea." he replied.

Thanks for the memory O.P.
 
I hate to be the one to break the news to you, but the great IPA's are in Cali. Hands down.:D:mug:

So god damn true. And living in San Diego, I'll say that we have the best IPAs in the world. Sure, there are great ones outside of here, but to thrive in this city, you better make one hell of an IPA.

With the exception of Russian River, nothing comes even close to this town.
 
When I was down in Cali I tried a bunch of different beers down there. All the IPAs I tried tasted like the APAs up here. :D
 
When I was down in Cali I tried a bunch of different beers down there. All the IPAs I tried tasted like the APAs up here. :D

I love how the PNW people always seem to think they have the edge on everyone. World Beer Cup results might be an indication of something...
 
I reviewed Longhammer on my website a few years ago before I had a taste for IPA's (or craft beers in general). I said it was pretty much average all around and I still feel that way. As far as IPA's go, I'm partial to Victory's Hop Devil myself.

But as far as best beer of all time in taste and price, that's a tough one. My favorite overall (in availability and flavor) is Duvel, but that's not exactly priced cheap either.
 
Especially non anheuser busch beers. ;)

I believe that AB only owns a small portion of RedHook, and RedHook only made the transaction to gain access to the huge AB distribution network. Goose Island did the same a couple years ago.
 
My favorite are Shorts Huma Lumpa Licious Bells two hearted. Although I have tried many I still have more to try.
 
Best beer of all time???? Obviously by this thread's proof, it is a total judgement call. However, I really like Pete's Wicked Ale! For an IPA though, I'd probably go with Flying Dog or DFH 60. Just my 2 cents!
 
I have to agree that Bell's Two-hearted is at least one of the best. The other is Hopslam. I'm new to the whole scene and never realized how much hops can flavor beer in so many different ways. I previously thought hops=bitter. A two-hearted clone with Amarillo has been waiting for me after work the last week or so; it's the greatest at the moment.
 
So god damn true. And living in San Diego, I'll say that we have the best IPAs in the world. Sure, there are great ones outside of here, but to thrive in this city, you better make one hell of an IPA.

I disagree. Most of the west-coast IPAs are too afraid to experiment with hops; they all go heavy on American citrus/pine flavored hops, and it's unusual to see much range outside of that. So the main variation is how much More! and Bigger! they can cram in, rather than trying the plethora of hops that give beer its variety. It's bizarre because there are some great breweries that are certainly pushing the envelope in a ton of ways (e.g. Russian River, Lost Abbey). Russian River's crafted some really good IPAs, but surprisingly (given their absolute willingness to try everything) even those are pretty standard "generic American" hops and ingredients.

There are certainly exceptions, but it's pretty shocking visiting the west coast and having the majority of IPAs unwilling to venture outside of a very narrow band.

Almost everywhere else in the country and world is more inventive and has a broader range with their IPAs.

Meantime IPA, Three Floyds Blackheart, Allagash Hugh Malone, Brasserie d'Achouffe Houblon Chouffe IPA, Berkshire's Lost Sailor--all great IPAs that don't live in the C-hop cage. Goose Island mixes a healthy does of Fuggles and Styrians in with the Centennials and whatnot. Brooklyn Brewery, Shipyard, hell almost every midwest and east coast brewery has more diversity in their IPAs.
 
Yeah, WC breweries tend to stick with the classic American IPA style.

Flavor: Hop flavor is medium to high, and should reflect an American hop character with citrusy, floral, resinous, piney or fruity aspects.
 
Yeah, WC breweries tend to stick with the classic American IPA style.

Exactly. It seems like they're straightjacketed by a very narrow conception of what an IPA can be ("IPA" shouldn't be limited to "classic American IPA"; British IPAs, Belgian IPAs, and all kinds of crossover IPAs are just as legit).

There are obviously some great, great WC IPAs, but it just seems like you don't get quite as much variety as most of the world gets (even the major Belgian breweries out there don't seem to do as many Belgian IPAs as the east coast does, though I could be wrong).
 
Well, they tend to use the hops that grow in our back yard. To sit at the base of the Cascade Mountains and enjoy a Fuggle hopped IPA is just out of place IMO.

How many British ales are made with Willamette hops?
 
Well, they tend to use the hops that grow in our back yard. To sit at the base of the Cascade Mountains and enjoy a Fuggle hopped IPA is just out of place IMO.

How many British ales are made with Willamette hops?
Cascade hops are extremely popular in England.
 
Dunno, but I think Blind Pig Brewery in Champaign has one of the best oatmeal stouts I've had, for sure.
 

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