Thanks for holding my job until I heal beer 4 my boss

[toneloke2011]

I've 50 lbs rolled steamed barley do I boil to extract or is it already done? Can I use corn syrup or should I use grits and meal ? What's the best rice to use?does malt come from barley or do I need 2 and 6 row what's the difference 2 and 6 are expensive! Wanting to make somewhat of a light beer as a thanks to my boss I had a car accident and haven't been able to work in over a week his brand is bud light but anything not too hippy should work any recipes would help

 

[doug293cz]

Sounds like you have never brewed beer before, and know very little about it. Chances of getting something good enough to thank your boss with on your first try are pretty remote starting from your level. I recommend buying something for him, rather than trying to make something that might not be appropriate for a "thank you".

I do encourage you to learn about brewing and to try the hobby out. It can be very rewarding. Anyone can learn to brew, but it does require some effort and practice to make good beer. A good starting place for learning is http://www.howtobrew.com/. When you have specific questions, feel free to ask them on HomeBrewTalk (HBT.) The more specific your questions, the better the answers you will get.

Brew on

 

[blubrewbbq]

Sounds like you have never brewed beer before, and know very little about it. Chances of getting something good enough to thank your boss with on your first try are pretty remote starting from your level. I recommend buying something for him, rather than trying to make something that might not be appropriate for a "thank you".

I do encourage you to learn about brewing and to try the hobby out. It can be very rewarding. Anyone can learn to brew, but it does require some effort and practice to make good beer. A good starting place for learning is http://www.howtobrew.com/. When you have specific questions, feel free to ask them on HomeBrewTalk (HBT.) The more specific your questions, the better the answers you will get.

Brew on

^^^ what he said. I would also encourage you to visit your Local Homebrew Store if there is one near you. These are generally small shops and the owner or whomever runs the place will be more than happy to answer questions and potentially get up with other local home brewers.

That along with the threads on this site are invaluable in getting hooked. Lol.

 

[beerlover77]

Read this:
http://www.howtobrew.com/
It covers all the basics and more

 

[toneloke2011]

Sounds like you have never brewed beer before, and know very little about it. Chances of getting something good enough to thank your boss with on your first try are pretty remote starting from your level. I recommend buying something for him, rather than trying to make something that might not be appropriate for a "thank you".

I do encourage you to learn about brewing and to try the hobby out. It can be very rewarding. Anyone can learn to brew, but it does require some effort and practice to make good beer. A good starting place for learning is http://www.howtobrew.com/. When you have specific questions, feel free to ask them on HomeBrewTalk (HBT.) The more specific your questions, the better the answers you will get.

Brew on

No stores within 100 miles have 30 gallons of assorted wine and 5 gallons of English brown ale my boss helped with rite before accident making honey ale tonight 5 gallons and tomorrow a coopers with added adjuncts for a mgd taste and a lager 6 gallons true I know little but it not necessarily hard to read and have learned that the rolled barley has already got the enzymes I need so it'll go straight in no problem 30 minutes at 150f in case any other noobs are wondering I got the barley for 20 bucks at feed store but thank you anyway

 

[beerlover77]

I don't think coopers kits and batches consisting of rolled barley and adjudicates are going to make a drinkable product. Simple sugars, syrups, rice; these types of things are usually fillers (though they can be used effectively). The reason why brewers barley is expensive is that it is a much better grade then feed grain and will actually make a good beer.

Normally you start a recipe using a large amount of 2 row brewers malt, add in specialty grain, maybe a few pounds of rolled or flaked grain and sometimes (not often) a small amount of adjuncts.
I have made a WitBeer using 50/50 pils and flaked wheat before but usually this much flaked is rare.

It looks like you asked some questions but already had the solutions figured in your head. Hope your beer turns out (doubtful). If you want to improve your brewing, read a lot about it online and ask lots of questions here 'well before' your brew day.

 

[passedpawn]

No stores within 100 miles have 30 gallons of assorted wine and 5 gallons of English brown ale my boss helped with rite before accident making honey ale tonight 5 gallons and tomorrow a coopers with added adjuncts for a mgd taste and a lager 6 gallons true I know little but it not necessarily hard to read and have learned that the rolled barley has already got the enzymes I need so it'll go straight in no problem 30 minutes at 150f in case any other noobs are wondering I got the barley for 20 bucks at feed store but thank you anyway

Please try to type in normal sentences. I'm not the grammar police. You know what I mean. Just take an extra minute and do it. Thanks.

 

[tjmac5071]

Please try to type in normal sentences. I'm not the grammar police. You know what I mean. Just take an extra minute and do it. Thanks.

He's trolling... There are so many of these lately

 

[user 125772]

If your barley is rolled and steamed, and you got it at a feed store, I seriously doubt it has any Diastic power (enzymes) to convert starch to fermentable sugars. The heat from the steam would have denatured the enzymes. You need MALTED barley for mashing.

I forget the exact ingredients but I think bud is made with about a 50/50 mix of rice and malted barley, prolly hallertauer hops , and fermented with a lager yeast... and don't forget the beechwood aging .

 

[kh54s10]

Troll or someone who asks for advice then thinks they know all....

If you make anything good out of that horse feed I would be surprised.....

Edit: NO, SHOCKED!!

 

[toneloke2011]

If your barley is rolled and steamed, and you got it at a feed store, I seriously doubt it has any Diastic power (enzymes) to convert starch to fermentable sugars. The heat from the steam would have denatured the enzymes. You need MALTED barley for mashing.

I forget the exact ingredients but I think bud is made with about a 50/50 mix of rice and malted barley, prolly hallertauer hops , and fermented with a lager yeast... and don't forget the beechwood aging .

Thank you sir

 

[toneloke2011]

Troll or someone who asks for advice then thinks they know all....

If you make anything good out of that horse feed I would be surprised.....

Edit: NO, SHOCKED!!

Never said I knew all in fact I wrote I know little but can read well obviously you cannot. all the way off! Thought that this site was for helping not for belittling I'm in a neck brace at the moment stuck in the house this is helping me pass time so sorry that their are some of you who don't have any manners frankly I think I'll gave a better time sifting through google hit and miss teaching myself probably going delete this app the rude and snide comments are not very helpful God bless you I'm still alive so I know I have been

 

[LoneTreeFarms]

Look up biermunchers cream of three crops. I've heard it's quite good. And should be tasty compared to the bud light. Plus like they say. It's the thought that counts.

 

[toneloke2011]

Troll or someone who asks for advice then thinks they know all....

If you make anything good out of that horse feed I would be surprised.....

Edit: NO, SHOCKED!!

Basically pointing out that rudeness doesn't answer or help, at least sleepy creek offers viable info. sorry about the sentences.lol

 

[toneloke2011]

I don't think coopers kits and batches consisting of rolled barley and adjudicates are going to make a drinkable product. Simple sugars, syrups, rice; these types of things are usually fillers (though they can be used effectively). The reason why brewers barley is expensive is that it is a much better grade then feed grain and will actually make a good beer.

Normally you start a recipe using a large amount of 2 row brewers malt, add in specialty grain, maybe a few pounds of rolled or flaked grain and sometimes (not often) a small amount of adjuncts.
I have made a WitBeer using 50/50 pils and flaked wheat before but usually this much flaked is rare.

It looks like you asked some questions but already had the solutions figured in your head. Hope your beer turns out (doubtful). If you want to improve your brewing, read a lot about it online and ask lots of questions here 'well before' your brew day.

Reading constantly! Lol.usually till sun up and never start unless completely sure of myself thank you so much for your help.I bought the " horse feed " because I read that I could use it . i wanted the seeds but they was treated with fungicide.I wasn't sure if that could be washed so I got the steamed I'm guessing yeast is a type of fungus .got on this app because I thought it would be better than misinformation sifting and no feedback

 

[ancientmariner52]

I'm beginning to see where we are going wrong. I pictured steamed rolled oats as something on the order of oatmeal porridge! So it is dry rolled oats that have been subjected to steam for disinfection purposes?

I don't think you can effectively mash this stuff by itself. The enzymes you need to convert starch to sugar are developed during the malting process. That is, whole live grains are allowed to sprout, then dryed to stop further growth. This is the 2-row and 6-row barley malt you asked about. You have to have a large proportion of so-called base malts, which have enough enzymes to also convert adjuncts such as your (I assume) unmalted rolled oats.

Don't be too hard on the folks that responded harshly. We do have problems with trolls, as described. Also, as you probably realize by now, if you ask 3 brewers a question you are likely to get a minimum of 5 answers. Good luck to you, and I wish you a speedy recovery.

 

[toneloke2011]

I'm beginning to see where we are going wrong. I pictured steamed rolled oats as something on the order of oatmeal porridge! So it is dry rolled oats that have been subjected to steam for disinfection purposes?

I don't think you can effectively mash this stuff by itself. The enzymes you need to convert starch to sugar are developed during the malting process. That is, whole live grains are allowed to sprout, then dryed to stop further growth. This is the 2-row and 6-row barley malt you asked about. You have to have a large proportion of so-called base malts, which have enough enzymes to also convert adjuncts such as your (I assume) unmalted rolled oats.

Don't be too hard on the folks that responded harshly. We do have problems with trolls, as described. Also, as you probably realize by now, if you ask 3 brewers a question you are likely to get a minimum of 5 answers. Good luck to you, and I wish you a speedy recovery.

Lol. Yes I've got different answers everywhere you are absolutely right.thankful just soaking in the info I really appreciate it and I'll try not to take offense.I've a bit of a short fuse it may be time for meds.what exactly is a troll?

 

[kh54s10]

Sorry, but the way your original post was put forward it came across as someone who constructed it just to get a bunch of responses. To me your second reply came across as disregarding what advice was given.

When someone asks about using ingredients that are not used in brewing beer and don't even know the basics of malts, or know that 2 row and six row are both barley species and both are malted for brewing. It leads to the guess that someone is trolling. It is somewhat common on forums.

I hope that you really are serious about brewing. My advice is to step back, read "How to Brew" online, or better yet, get the book which is updated. Look into some other books and then when you are better informed come back we will be happy to help. It is difficult when someone says I have this, how can I make an alcoholic beverage with it that is like Bud Light. It is not nearly that easy.

 

[ancientmariner52]

I'm kinda new in town myself, but as I understand it, a troll is someone who throws out a bunch of questions or makes a comment for the sole purpose of stirring up hate and discontent. Somehow or other they find it amusing to get a bunch of people arguing. Your original post had some of the earmarks of a troll post. I'm glad we were wrong.

 

[toneloke2011]

Lol. Yes I've got different answers everywhere you are absolutely right.thankful just soaking in the info I really appreciate it and I'll try not to take offense.I've a bit of a short fuse it may be time for meds.what exactly is a troll?

Ahh a person that asked advice then knows it all... Not me at all I'm totally new started with wine and now trying beer

 

[toneloke2011]

Sorry, but the way your original post was put forward it came across as someone who constructed it just to get a bunch of responses. To me your second reply came across as disregarding what advice was given.

When someone asks about using ingredients that are not used in brewing beer and don't even know the basics of malts, or know that 2 row and six row are both barley species and both are malted for brewing. It leads to the guess that someone is trolling. It is somewhat common on forums.

I hope that you really are serious about brewing. My advice is to step back, read "How to Brew" online, or better yet, get the book which is updated. Look into some other books and then when you are better informed come back we will be happy to help. It is difficult when someone says I have this, how can I make an alcoholic beverage with it that is like Bud Light. It is not nearly that easy.

Just a misunderstanding .I apologize for lashing my feelings are a bit touchy at the moment I'm on a lot a meds and painful. I did well with wine and wanted to learn beer

 

[toneloke2011]

Just a misunderstanding .I apologize for lashing my feelings are a bit touchy at the moment I'm on a lot a meds and painful. I did well with wine and wanted to learn beer

Beer is way more work ,and yes very serious about learning anything at all about it I've watched utube ,googled,ordered books just not in yet,and now this forum.I live where Jonny Carson said he'd never go there are no local brew shops so Amazon and Google have been my only way to learn anything at all. This all started when we did a food drive and was donated fruit I couldn't give away so I made a one gallon batch of grape balloon wine with bread yeast it turned out great clear and tasty so I been investing with my boss and can't stop I'm hooked

 

[flars]

Have you considered starting with extract kits. All the ingredients conveniently packaged. Not a bad way to learn about brewing. Northern Brewer has 15% off on orders of $75 or more until tomorrow midnight. The discount gets you free shipping plus a little more.

I would suggest looking at the Witbier or the Bavarian Hefeweizen.

 

[z-bob]

Buy him a case of whatever beer he likes, (I think everybody likes Bell's Two Hearted and Sierra Nevada Pale Ale) and tell him you're trying to figure out how to brew yourself. See if he has any ideas.

The Northern Brewer extract kits are supposed to be pretty good; some of the guys in my local homebrew club use them when they are on sale and/or they don't have time to brew whole-grain.

You bought 50 pounds of barley with no idea what to do with it? If you'd bought 50 pounds of malt we might could help you with it. Don't throw the flaked barley away, you can use it up eventually (a pound at a time)

 

[toneloke2011]

Buy him a case of whatever beer he likes, (I think everybody likes Bell's Two Hearted and Sierra Nevada Pale Ale) and tell him you're trying to figure out how to brew yourself. See if he has any ideas.

The Northern Brewer extract kits are supposed to be pretty good; some of the guys in my local homebrew club use them when they are on sale and/or they don't have time to brew whole-grain.

You bought 50 pounds of barley with no idea what to do with it? If you'd bought 50 pounds of malt we might could help you with it. Don't throw the flaked barley away, you can use it up eventually (a pound at a time)

Ya that's what I'll have to do with it. I read online I could use it before I got it but it goes back and fourth.learned my lesson about believing the first thing I read about something. He likes strawberry wine and I've got 5 gallons aging so I'll give him that he drank all my first 5gallon so I know he likes it.

 

[toneloke2011]

Have you considered starting with extract kits. All the ingredients conveniently packaged. Not a bad way to learn about brewing. Northern Brewer has 15% off on orders of $75 or more until tomorrow midnight. The discount gets you free shipping plus a little more.

I would suggest looking at the Witbier or the Bavarian Hefeweizen.

Yes I've done one brown nut ale actually survived the wreck with me and kept my legs from getting crushed its got another week or two before its ready to age.calling it angels hold on to your nuts brown ale lol

 

[toneloke2011]

Yes I've done one brown nut ale actually survived the wreck with me and kept my legs from getting crushed its got another week or two before its ready to age.calling it angels hold on to your nuts brown ale lol

Also have coopers lager and coopers draught and a honey bee ale. Im a cook 6 days a week so its fun to brew and kinda similar to cooking in some ways. I haven't watched the television or played ps4 in 3 months from all the brewing and reading and such. Think I study now more than when I was in school lol.I had originally planned for brewers best cream ale but they jacked the price on me enough to make just buying beer at store the same cost