I wouldnt worry to much about the mulch. I mulched the top of mine and it comes through easy. See pic of some cascades I planted the other day. I just used some potting soil and then put mulch on top.
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Wow looks good! How long after planting your rhizomes did shoots become visible? I just want to know when I should start to worry/order some more rhizomes before it's too late.
Thanks!
it depends on how the buds where on the rhizome. When I got mine in the mail they already had about an 1-1/2" sprout coming out in a few places.
I planted them 2-3 inches in the soil then mulch on top about a week ago. I planted them with the sprouts/buds point up. This sounds like a dumb thing to say but one time I did it backwards which wasnt to bad they jsut took longer to turn around.
FYI - mine are Cascades from freshhops
I planted them 2-3 inches in the soil then mulch on top about a week ago. I planted them with the sprouts/buds point up. This sounds like a dumb thing to say but one time I did it backwards which wasnt to bad they jsut took longer to turn around.
FYI - mine are Cascades from freshhops
I think I tried fuggle and cascades a few years back and cascade was the only one I had luck with.
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ReverseApacheMaster
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I did not realize I planted the rhizomes so deep. I went digging around under the mounds I grew to see if there was any activity. Both of my rhizomes that have not produced a shoot have several shoots working their way up in the ground. I apparently planted them like a foot deep once you factor in the depth of the mound. Oh well, as long as they are growing they will make their way up to the surface.
after 9 days, both the nugget and the cascade are doing fabulously. From what I've read and seen on hops growing, I expected my cascades to outpace the nugget, but this was not the case. My nugget has 2 dominant shoots about 1' tall now, while my cascade has 4 or 5 shoots, the tallest being about 5". Should I trim back all but two or three of these? Pics to follow.
there are a bunch of much better hops growers on here, but i have about six of them popping out now about 2"
I was just gonna run twine from the ground close by and tack the other ends to my fence. Next year might be another story though. The last time I did cascades i only got about two eight feet vines from one rhizome in the first year. I wasnt watering alot though. Ive seen some peoples pics on here go crazy but we are in Houston too.
EDIT: Nevermind I think I am gonna do a 7ft tripod like Eds in this thread.
I was just gonna run twine from the ground close by and tack the other ends to my fence. Next year might be another story though. The last time I did cascades i only got about two eight feet vines from one rhizome in the first year. I wasnt watering alot though. Ive seen some peoples pics on here go crazy but we are in Houston too.
EDIT: Nevermind I think I am gonna do a 7ft tripod like Eds in this thread.
damn shazam!
I wouldnt worry. You are ahead of me on the cascades. It just probably depends on size of rhizome, perfect water/moisture mix, etc etc. I will try to remember to post a pic of my cascades. I am in NW houston FYI.
I wouldnt worry. You are ahead of me on the cascades. It just probably depends on size of rhizome, perfect water/moisture mix, etc etc. I will try to remember to post a pic of my cascades. I am in NW houston FYI.
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In sw Oklahoma I'm going to plant Chianook and Golding this weekend. Still don't know were I will put them.
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EdWort
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Looking nice! I've all but given up on hops in Austin. Too Hot, not enough shade. It was a freak wet summer when I started this project. 
here is a pic of last night. I put a small tripod over it from some leftover stuff I had in the garage. I may tack out some twine once it gets to the top.
this was three planted cascades rhizomes.
this was three planted cascades rhizomes.
mbtech
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Jason, I live in Forney and have chinook, cascade, and willamette. I planted everything last year. I dug out 3 holes that are around 2x2x2 ft. I then filled the holes with a mix of aged manure, top soil, and compost all obtained from lowes. So far this year, my chinook is about 3 ft, my cascade is around 7ft, and the willamette is a few inches tall. I'll post pics tonight.
262andbrew
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Great thread folks.
Hey Ed, do you think that your troubles in years 2+ could have been a result of the news paper that got put down at grade? I understand that news paper serves as a great weed barrier, to keep the weeds from coming up, but I wonder if that kept the roots of your hops from moving down deep where the temps are more constant and the moisture is readily available.
When I saw your process I thought "ohh, yeah I want to do that" but then as I kept reading I started to wonder if that was part of the troubles in the more recent years.
Not sure, just brainstorming out of my a$$. Might be totally off base.
Hey Ed, do you think that your troubles in years 2+ could have been a result of the news paper that got put down at grade? I understand that news paper serves as a great weed barrier, to keep the weeds from coming up, but I wonder if that kept the roots of your hops from moving down deep where the temps are more constant and the moisture is readily available.
When I saw your process I thought "ohh, yeah I want to do that" but then as I kept reading I started to wonder if that was part of the troubles in the more recent years.
Not sure, just brainstorming out of my a$$. Might be totally off base.
twelfthman01
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Afternoon sun is almost definitely the cause and not the newspaper - I would guess.
I have 2 cascades in 15 gallon buckets, that I've had for about 2 years now. They do best with morning sun only and of course they like the water and fertilizer. I think honestly an area with morning sun and then reflected light - but shade, in the afternoon would be perfect.
I have 2 cascades in 15 gallon buckets, that I've had for about 2 years now. They do best with morning sun only and of course they like the water and fertilizer. I think honestly an area with morning sun and then reflected light - but shade, in the afternoon would be perfect.
i like the way you got the twine going out. I am gonna stake some wood in the ground and run it out like that. The wind blew down my bamboo teepe this weekend so i gotta try something else.
So far the twine system I have seems to be working well. All the climbing bines get enough sunlight to be happy. The nugget has really taken off. The tallest bine is growing about 4-6" a day now. My cascade is coming along, but I expected (based on other posts re: hops growing) the cascade to dominate. I also noticed that the nugget has just 2 major bines, but the cascade has 1 major bine and about 4 smaller bines. Should I trim these smaller bines or would that be a bad idea?
Thanks!
Thanks!
wow yo got some really taking off. I took this pic last night. I think they are growing slowere since I didnt have a good twine lines for them to go. I did this last night so hopefully they will take off now.
houndsbreath
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The LHBS was out of Cascade rhizomes (apparently ideal for this climate) but I love ESBs, porters, etc that frequently call for Fuggles. I have also been wanting to dry hop an IPA with fresh Fuggles. Bought and planted 1 rhizome exactly 2 weeks ago and saw the first sprout break the soil after 10 days.
This is going to be semi-organic, hence the eggshells around the plant (below) to repel snails/slugs. I dug a ~1.5 foot hole and mixed equal parts sand, compost, mulch and <1/4 cup 19-13-6 fertilizer into native soil (black clay) and planted the rhizome ~1 inch deep horizontally with sprouts pointing up.
My "trellis" is a ~15 ft piece of rebar sunk 3 ft into the ground and leaning at a 70 degree angle against the house. Irrigation runs for ~10 minutes every 2 days (~0.5 gallons water) and keeps the soil evenly moist. A Heavy layer of mulch helps cut down irrigation. Irrigation will probably increase with heat and as plant grows.
I'll keep you updated! Good luck to TX hops growers in this ultra-dry weather. We haven't had a soaking rain in Houston in 90+ days!
This is going to be semi-organic, hence the eggshells around the plant (below) to repel snails/slugs. I dug a ~1.5 foot hole and mixed equal parts sand, compost, mulch and <1/4 cup 19-13-6 fertilizer into native soil (black clay) and planted the rhizome ~1 inch deep horizontally with sprouts pointing up.
My "trellis" is a ~15 ft piece of rebar sunk 3 ft into the ground and leaning at a 70 degree angle against the house. Irrigation runs for ~10 minutes every 2 days (~0.5 gallons water) and keeps the soil evenly moist. A Heavy layer of mulch helps cut down irrigation. Irrigation will probably increase with heat and as plant grows.
I'll keep you updated! Good luck to TX hops growers in this ultra-dry weather. We haven't had a soaking rain in Houston in 90+ days!
mine have really stalled out. Any suggestions?
anonymousbrew
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I've noticed big differences in mine.
my setup is first year plants, 6 containers, all in containers, all with same soil (miracle gro + compost), all on my back porch with lines to an 8 ft top wire.
3 cascades, 1ea Centennial, Fuggle, Nugget.
the two on the east side of the porch (Centennial and Cascade) get great morning sun, then are shaded until late in the afternoon. Those two are already well trained down the top wire and both have a good number of cones.
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Centennial
The rest of them vary widely in how well they're doing.
The other two Cascades are definately growing slower, are a little wild at the base, and have shown signs of iron def. (amended soil yesterday, we'll see what happens)
But by far, the best looking 3 are the ones with the fewest bines. The Centennial only has 1, and the pictured Cascade really only has 2 or 3.
I keep babying them, and will post more with pics on how they're doing.
my setup is first year plants, 6 containers, all in containers, all with same soil (miracle gro + compost), all on my back porch with lines to an 8 ft top wire.
3 cascades, 1ea Centennial, Fuggle, Nugget.
the two on the east side of the porch (Centennial and Cascade) get great morning sun, then are shaded until late in the afternoon. Those two are already well trained down the top wire and both have a good number of cones.
Cascade
Centennial
The rest of them vary widely in how well they're doing.
The other two Cascades are definately growing slower, are a little wild at the base, and have shown signs of iron def. (amended soil yesterday, we'll see what happens)
But by far, the best looking 3 are the ones with the fewest bines. The Centennial only has 1, and the pictured Cascade really only has 2 or 3.
I keep babying them, and will post more with pics on how they're doing.
anonymousbrew
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Things are 'thickening'. Leaves are getting bigger, existing cones are growing, the shorter plants have started looking healthier and i'm seeing burrs start on most. All but one plant has reached the top wire, and 4 of 6 have at least 1 bine trained a 2-4ft along the top lines.
Added bloodmeal and some iron supplement about a week ago, and things are looking much better. Might feed with some miracle grow towards the end of this week.
The two plants that kicked off cones early, have big, quickly maturing cones. Should i expect these to be ready for harvest unusually early? will these be any good? Anybody have this happen before?
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