Imperial Stout Ten Fidy Clone

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Thanks for sharing. I taste a faint hint of oak/bourbon/vanilla in Ten Fidy myself but so faint it could be anything. I added 4oz Makers Mark soaked in light oak chips, but could not taste in the aged beer, so I'll double next time. I just used 2pks of safale5 and fermentation stopped dead at 1.040. There must be a way to get it closer to 1.025, my goal anyway. The roastiness will subside in the next few weeks Sounds like you have a great batch of beer coming your way. Nice job

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Oh, my craptastic drink since there's some rule about bringing alcohol to work. Want Remmy's choices.

View attachment 1430250268402.jpg

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Sorry, wrong thread.

 

[ultravista]

Subscribing

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Wednesday I'm brewing this beer. Temp controller built. Letting sit for 3 months before kegging. My first "long term" brew.

View attachment 1434251872407.jpg

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Came out at 1.103. Bubbles galore.

View attachment 1435432902677.jpg

 

[ultravista]

PianoMan - which beer did you brew?

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Page 1 recipe modified for my lower efficiency...and used safeale4, and Goldings at 10min..

1st attempt stalled at 1.040. I xfered from bucket to bucket 3x to oxygenate wort before pitching 04. I use a 7.9gal bucket, but only 5.5gal of wort. Had to clean bubbler this morning. Krausen must be crazy in there.
Right now, fermentation temp is 61f. Will probably raise to 64 tomorrow. That would be day 3.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Came out at 1.038 after 9 days. Nice sample! Dryer then last. Shook the daylights in attempt to rouse yeast..but it'll do.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Came down a bit. 9.9% now. Couldn't stop sampling last night. Xfer to secondary, but don't think it'll make 3 months conditioning.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

As predicted, kegged early. 2 weeks in and pretty darn good. Obviously Safale4 adds different character. Plan a true Ten-fidy clone in October. Nice thing about stouts, longer the better unlike IPAs which you gotta suck down 5 gallons in 2 months.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

PianoMan - which beer did you brew?

Ok, 3 months old now. Getting better and better. I have a 10-fidy and mine testing now. HB with safale04 creates a more appealing and longer after taste. I still think there's a small amount of oak/bourbon in 10-fidy. Does anyone else taste it?

 

[UCChemE05]

As predicted, kegged early. 2 weeks in and pretty darn good. Obviously Safale4 adds different character. Plan a true Ten-fidy clone in October. Nice thing about stouts, longer the better unlike IPAs which you gotta suck down 5 gallons in 2 months.

Did you end up doing the clone last month?

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Screwed up the water. Came out at 8%. Kegged and waiting.

 

[atimmerman88]

Any comments on the IBU's listed on the OP?

Tossing in the same amounts in a 5.5 gallon batch yields around 55 IBU [Tinseth]

Just curious, OB lists it at 65 online.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

So anther attempt next weekend. After serval attempts. I'd really like to nail it. FG at 1.028 would be perfect. Is 1056 necessary for this? I've done safale04 and 05, with both stuck at 1.040. Any advice?

 

[grundlepunch]

So anther attempt next weekend. After serval attempts. I'd really like to nail it. FG at 1.028 would be perfect. Is 1056 necessary for this? I've done safale04 and 05, with both stuck at 1.040. Any advice?

I have been wanting to make this with san diego super yeast but i was fresh out... I made a big'ol starter with cali yeast. Let you know how it turns out. View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1450016572.909350.jpg only been 12 hours and shes bubbling like crazy!

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

I have been wanting to make this with san diego super yeast but i was fresh out... I made a big'ol starter with cali yeast. Let you know how it turns out. View attachment 322375 only been 12 hours and shes bubbling like crazy!

LHBS has fresh batch of SDSY. Will brew Wednesday. My first big beer using liquid yeast...bit nervous.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

LHBS has fresh batch of SDSY. Will brew Wednesday. My first big beer using liquid yeast...bit nervous.

So been reading up on this yeast. Looking at OG 1.1, FG 1.028. With SDSY, should I be mashing much higher at 156? Looks like this stuff can chew threw steel. Not interested in a dry stout. Thanks for advice, or sharing personal experience.

Edit: my recipe is spitting image of original, except I'm adding 1lb DME due to my efficiency and the mash ton will all ready be too full. Mashing at 156. Beersmith says it should end at 28, want 30 so adding 1lb lactose. With SDSY, calculation at 10.4%ABV, hopefully have 400billion cells. Brew day Wednesday.

 

[A2HB]

How did the brew day go?

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

How did the brew day go?

Numbers we're very close, 1.104. Starter was showing activity about 4hrs before pitching...we'll see. May have slightly burned some dme my electric stove. Perhaps it'll add extra flavor! Had water circulating around fermentation bucket at 59F. Looks like San Diego likes a cooler environment then the safale05 I normally use. Another 10-12 days to secondary. Thanks for asking.

Have you brewed this?

 

[grundlepunch]

F.G came in at 1.033. Meh. Gravity samples tasted awesome though. View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1451354035.626171.jpg
Racked into a keg on top of 1.5oz of med char oak cubes that had been soaking in makers mark.

 

[atimmerman88]

Just mashed in on this beast. Opted to sub out some 2 row for 3# of dme.

Smells like a roast shop in the the garage!!!

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Just mashed in on this beast. Opted to sub out some 2 row for 3# of dme.

Smells like a roast shop in the the garage!!!

Done similar thing. I just can't get this recipe to ferment out. Best I've done was 1.038. Used Safale4, Safale5, and San Diego Super Yeast along with different fermentation temperatures and substituting with DME. Batch made 3 weeks ago, I just re-oxygenated and pitched Champaign yeast 1118.

Edit:
Another clone attempt today. Hit gravity way early in tun drain, so decided to partigyle. Ended boil too early on 10fidy, at 1.090, but had extra wort so added to PG. Took oak chips and soaked during PG strike. Smell nice! Also used US Goldings and Safale4 since those what I have lying around.

 

[atimmerman88]

Done similar thing. I just can't get this recipe to ferment out. Best I've done was 1.038. Used Safale4, Safale5, and San Diego Super Yeast along with different fermentation temperatures and substituting with DME. Batch made 3 weeks ago, I just re-oxygenated and pitched Champaign yeast 1118.

Edit:
Another clone attempt today. Hit gravity way early in tun drain, so decided to partigyle. Ended boil too early on 10fidy, at 1.090, but had extra wort so added to PG. Took oak chips and soaked during PG strike. Smell nice! Also used US Goldings and Safale4 since those what I have lying around.

I checked mine at the 6 day mark....fermented @ 63 for 2 days, then ramped it to 67 from there. 1.110 down to about 1.036 or so and was still showing some signs of activity.

I'm hoping to get it down to 1.030 and call it good. Used 2 packs of S04 for mine.

and an aquarium pump for oxygen.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

I checked mine at the 6 day mark....fermented @ 63 for 2 days, then ramped it to 67 from there. 1.110 down to about 1.036 or so and was still showing some signs of activity.

I'm hoping to get it down to 1.030 and call it good. Used 2 packs of S04 for mine.

and an aquarium pump for oxygen.

1.030...i'd buy that for a dollar! Mine was 1.045 after 2 weeks! So where are you measuring temperature? If I may ask. I just recirculate water around the bucket. My usual daily temp settings; 65, 61,61,63,65, room temp...68 in winter. But don't know the actual wort temp. Just curious.

 

[atimmerman88]

1.030...i'd buy that for a dollar! Mine was 1.045 after 2 weeks! So where are you measuring temperature? If I may ask. I just recirculate water around the bucket. My usual daily temp settings; 65, 61,61,63,65, room temp...68 in winter. But don't know the actual wort temp. Just curious.

I have mine in my ferm chamber.

I have my probe underneath a 2"x3"x"2" piece of foam I molded to the bucket.

I typically set it 1degF below what I want it because my temp controller only let's me control hysteresis w/in 1deg.

So if I set to 65, it'll rise to 66 then kick on the compressor.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

I checked mine at the 6 day mark....fermented @ 63 for 2 days, then ramped it to 67 from there. 1.110 down to about 1.036 or so and was still showing some signs of activity.

I'm hoping to get it down to 1.030 and call it good. Used 2 packs of S04 for mine.

and an aquarium pump for oxygen.

One more question if you don't mind. How are you getting O2 with an aquarium pump? Just pumping air?

 

[atimmerman88]

One more question if you don't mind. How are you getting O2 with an aquarium pump? Just pumping air?

Ya - I've got an SS stone I pump through. It's not as good as an O2 system but a bit cheaper. From what I've read, you can't put too much air into the wort with a pump.

I just run it for 15/20 min for a standard gravity [<1.06] and 30/40 min for anything over that and it seems to work ok.

Side not, my clone leveled out at 1.030. 1.110 - 1.03 so I think it's done.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

So the attempt that ended at 1.045 and wouldn't ferment out, added oak/bourbon to it. Force carb and bottled next day, my first attempt at such a thing.

This is really good, bit undercarbed, but no biggy with this style. My stout buds are asking for more...like 4.5gal is not enough. Happy it turned out! Have another clone attempt which I'll know more Thursday.

View attachment 1452978223305.jpg