Imperial Stout Ten Fidy Clone

[mtnagel]

I used crystal 60L. Not sure if that's the most correct thing, but it's what I did. Can't imagine you'd taste that difference in a beer like this.

 

[MrNic]

So I want to brew this but I cannot find British Crystal 53L anywhere. Is there a good substitute?

I used Simpsons Medium Crystal

 

[Tomcat0304]

I brewed this yesterday. Everything went pretty good. I ended up getting 73% efficiency, which I wasn't expecting. I also did a parti-gyle and got a second beer out of the grains. My OG ended up being 1.101



I'll keep you guys updated.

How did your parti-gyle beer turn out? What was the gravity and volume of what you collected? I'm thinking of doing the same when I brew this.

 

[MrNic]

How did your parti-gyle beer turn out? What was the gravity and volume of what you collected? I'm thinking of doing the same when I brew this.

Well, it's not completely carbed yet, but it turned out pretty good. It tastes like sweetened iced coffee.

I believe we collected about 4.5 gallon preboil. Ended up with about 3 gallons after bottling. I added 1 lb of lactose, .25 oz magnum at 60 min, .5 oz of crystal at 15 min, and .5 oz of crystal at 5 min. Post boil gravity was 1.041. Keep in mind, this will be a very small beer. It ended up being about 2.4% abv.

 

[Tomcat0304]

Thanks, I haven't done one before so I thought I'd try when there is as much grain as this. Thinking I might even split it into one gallon batches and experiment with additional flavors, yeasts, etc.

 

[MrNic]

I bottled my batch yesterday. It FG ended up being 1.038, so quite a bit higher than it was supposed to be. It still tastes pretty good though. I'm hoping the carbonation will cut some of the sweetness.

If anyone plans on brewing this recipe, I would definitely recommend mashing a couple of degrees lower and either pitching an entire yeast cake, or making an enormous starter.

 

[sweed]

I brewed this up tonight. Like last year, I'll just let it sit in the primary for 5-6 months. Turned out really good. A little different than ten fidy. I feel if I did all grain it would come out a little thicker. Still a great beer, many compliments!

 

[jack_a_roe]

just had this for the first time last month, my brother is in love with this beer so we're thinking of hitting this up next. def going to need to get some sort of O2 setup for such a big beer tho. prob going to brew up a galaxy pale ale and pitching on the yeast cake after. what do you guys think, use the whole yeast cake or dump halfish out first?

 

[mtnagel]

Pitching on a whole yeast cake is almost always over pitching. For this beer and using the defaults in Mr Malty, it says you need 184 ml (or 6.2 oz). So I'd take a 2 cup measure, scoop up some of the yeast cake and pitch most of that.

 

[MrNic]

Pitching on a whole yeast cake is almost always over pitching. For this beer and using the defaults in Mr Malty, it says you need 184 ml (or 6.2 oz). So I'd take a 2 cup measure, scoop up some of the yeast cake and pitch most of that.

I don't know. I pitched about 50% more than mr malty recommends, and mine ended up way under attenuated. I think pitching on an entire yeast cake would be good idea for this beer.

 

[mtnagel]

Aren't there other reasons for under-attenuation though? Mine finished lower than I wanted despite pitching the "appropriate" amount of cells. But I probably rely on online calculators too much, but I like to see the numbers. They make me feel good

 

[MrNic]

Aren't there other reasons for under-attenuation though? Mine finished lower than I wanted despite pitching the "appropriate" amount of cells. But I probably rely on online calculators too much, but I like to see the numbers. They make me feel good

I supposed it could have been not enough oxygen. We aerated with a wine degasser, so that could be it. I had a friend helping me brew it, and he recently did an abyss clone and hit his fg exactly. He aerated the same way, so I have a hard time believing that's the problem.

 

[mtnagel]

And I only aerated by shaking, which we know isn't going to get enough dissolved oxygen.

And I used 1056 and got 79% attenuation, which is supposed to only get 73-77%.

I don't have good enough notes, but knowing me I'm sure I repitched a slurry and I used Mr. Malty to tell me how much.

 

[MrNic]

And I only aerated by shaking, which we know isn't going to get enough dissolved oxygen.

And I used 1056 and got 79% attenuation, which is supposed to only get 73-77%.

I don't have good enough notes, but knowing me I'm sure I repitched a slurry and I used Mr. Malty to tell me how much.

Hmm, interesting. I repitched slurry as well. Did you mash at 153?

 

[mtnagel]

155F like the original recipe says.

 

[MrNic]

155F like the original recipe says.

Yeah, same here. Weird.

 

[mtnagel]

9 months after brewing/6.5 months after bottling. This beer is really getting good. Lots of great roasty flavors. Great mouthfeel too.

 

[MrNic]

It's been 3.5 months since I brewed this. It's getting better, but it definitely needs time to develop.

 

[BigDaddyBeard]

Way overshot my gravity... I used the suggested 65% where I normally get around 75%. O.G. is 1.117 and its far to late to boil up a gallon to top it off. Can I add a gallon in tomorrow?

 

[orangemen5]

Way overshot my gravity... I used the suggested 65% where I normally get around 75%. O.G. is 1.117 and its far to late to boil up a gallon to top it off. Can I add a gallon in tomorrow?

You could add it tommorow without a problem. I've also topped up straight from the tap without a problem.

 

[BigDaddyBeard]

OK so its been in the primary for 3 months and now its time to bottle. Do I need to add any yeast at bottling to get it to carb? I have had bad luck in the past with my yeast not having enough juice left to carb 10% and above beer.

 

[stompbox]

OK so its been in the primary for 3 months and now its time to bottle. Do I need to add any yeast at bottling to get it to carb? I have had bad luck in the past with my yeast not having enough juice left to carb 10% and above beer.

I usually throw some champagne yeast in high ABV beers (10% and higher) to assure carbonation.

 

[BigDaddyBeard]

Thanks stomp

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Has anyone tried biab the oats/specialty grains then used that wort along with the appropriate water as strike water with base grains? With such a large grain bill, thought this might help for space and stuck mash issues. Just curious.

 

[Clankenbrew]

I have, I gelatinized the oats in a bowl of water in the microwave first then dumped it into the muslim bag. Worked great, nice smooth frothy head after. No stuck starge... Good luck


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[ThirstyPawsHB]

Thanks for the advice. 11/21 brew date is planned.

 

[Jason82]

I found a recipe for Ten Fidy on Brewtoad here https://www.brewtoad.com/recipes/ten...ne-oskar-blues

There is another recipe for ten tidy on these forums here https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f68/ten-fidy-clone-321584/

The recipes are very similar, but a difference I notice is that the recipe on brew toad includes two crystal malts at 7 % each (caramalt and crisp 77), while the recipe on the forums here only has one crystal malt at approximately 7%.

Both recipes state they are provided by a head/former-head brewer at Oskar Blues. I am wondering if using both crystal malts will be too much crystal. What do you guys think?


Briess 2-Row Brewers Malt - Crushed 14
Briess Munich 10L - 1 lb. crushed 4
Briess Chocolate Malt - 1 lb. crushed 2
Briess Organic Roast Barley - 1 lb. crushed 2 (using 1.7 lb)
Flaked Oats - 1 lb. whole 2
English Dark Crystal - 1 lb. crushed 2
White Labs WLP001 California Ale 3
Columbus Hop Pellets 8 oz. 1
Simpsons Crystal Light - 1 lb. crushed 2

Also, just ordered the above ingredients from Northern brewer. I won't use all of the crystal depending on the feedback I receive here. The English (simpsons) dark crystal was the closest thing I could find to "crisp 77". Nothing on northern brewer just called Cara-malt (UK) so I went with simpsons light crystal. Hoping these are appropriate.

This order is for a Partigyle style brew of 8-10 gallons, using the first runnings (1/3 -1/2 of total wort) for the Ten Fidy. Not sure what the second runnings will be, guess a dry stout or porter.

 

[poptarts]

Pretty positive this is not the real recipe...

Pretty positive this is
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/oskar-blues-recipes-423236/

 

[Jason82]

Thanks pop-tarts. I reread my post and in case it was confusing, I posted a link to the recipe i found, and also a copy/paste of my recent northern brewer order, which included extra ingredients for another beer (extra hops / yeast).

 

[poptarts]

whatever recipe you choose just for the love of god do not mash at 155