Imperial Stout Ten Fidy Clone

[BigDaddyBeard]

Since you used 1056 with some added yeast cake do you think one packet of S-05 would be enough? S-05 has a higher pitch rate per packet correct?

 

[mtnagel]

Nope. Mr. Malty says you would need 1.8 packets if 11.5 g or 4.1 packets if 5 g.

 

[BigDaddyBeard]

Nope. Mr. Malty says you would need 1.8 packets if 11.5 g or 4.1 packets if 5 g.

Ok, thanks! Damn that's a lot of yeast. S-05 should sub out well for this right? I love this beer and if I brew it I don't wanna screw it up.

 

[mtnagel]

Yes, they are supposed to be the same yeast.

Any other lower gravity beers you are planning? You could always do that first and then use some of the yeast cake for the Ten Fidy clone.

 

[BigDaddyBeard]

Yes, they are supposed to be the same yeast. Any other lower gravity beers you are planning? You could always do that first and then use some of the yeast cake for the Ten Fidy clone.

got some S-05 in my IPA going now, that wouldn't be over kill?

 

[mtnagel]

got some S-05 in my IPA going now, that wouldn't be over kill?

What do you mean overkill? Do you mean using the entire yeast cake? If so, yes, that will be too much. Use mrmalty's repitching from slurry calculator to figure out how much you need.

 

[BigDaddyBeard]

What do you mean overkill? Do you mean using the entire yeast cake? If so, yes, that will be too much. Use mrmalty's repitching from slurry calculator to figure out how much you need.

Ok just never done a beer this big and had a need for this much yeast. Still a newb!

 

[mtnagel]

Ok just never done a beer this big and had a need for this much yeast. Still a newb!

No problem. We all started as newbies.

Mine is now 3 weeks in the bottle. I want to hold off drinking it but I know I'll be impatient and drink one soon!

 

[BigDaddyBeard]

No problem. We all started as newbies. Mine is now 3 weeks in the bottle. I want to hold off drinking it but I know I'll be impatient and drink one soon!

I want to get this one going and put it in bottles then hold it until next fall. Trying to learn to brew ahead, but nothing ever seems to last in tho a household.

 

[sweed]

I want to get this one going and put it in bottles then hold it until next fall. Trying to learn to brew ahead, but nothing ever seems to last in tho a household.

I leave my big beers at my parents house in the basement so I don't keep trying them until they are good. All my ten fidy clones are at my place and are slowly going down. Its tough because its so good, but its be aged enough IMO, so I don't mind it.I need some to save to have others try it on Thanksgiving. I will be brewing this again, such a great beer.

 

[Tomcat0304]

How would Wyeast 1728 do in this beer? I have a batch of strong scotch ale going right now. Would the yeast in the current batch be too beat up to ferment this one well?

This recipe sounds delicious!

 

[sweed]

How would Wyeast 1728 do in this beer? I have a batch of strong scotch ale going right now. Would the yeast in the current batch be too beat up to ferment this one well?

This recipe sounds delicious!

If its in active fermentation, maybe, but of its done fermenting the yeast could be stressed too much. A better beer would be a 5-6 beer at active fermentation. A Scotch yeast would be interesting!

I can't get enough!

 

[mtnagel]

I broke down and tried mine. 5 weeks in primary, 5 weeks in secondary and 4 weeks in the bottle. Tasted very good. Can't wait to see how it changes.

 

[MrNic]

I ordered the ingredients for this today. Can't wait to brew it!

 

[MrNic]

Holy grain, batman!

 

[rynoryan]

MrNic, did you brew it yet. If so how did it come out?

 

[MrNic]

MrNic, did you brew it yet. If so how did it come out?

Nope, not yet. Probably not until February. I'll post pictures and everything when I brew it.

 

[rynoryan]

Sounds good

 

[mtnagel]

I brewed it mid August. The one I tried 3.5 months later was very good. I've pretty much decided I'll wait till 6 months before trying another which is coming up.

 

[Tangelo]

Several have tried oak or bourbon oak aging, how did that turn out?

 

[MrNic]

I'm planning on pulling 1 or 2 gallons off and aging on Jack Daniels barrel chips.

 

[MrNic]

I brewed this yesterday. Everything went pretty good. I ended up getting 73% efficiency, which I wasn't expecting. I also did a parti-gyle and got a second beer out of the grains. My OG ended up being 1.101

Here is the grain...all 24 pounds of it.

Transferring the mash water into the tun.

The mash tun was basically at it's max capacity.

We pushed the lid in a little too far...

Motor oil

We used mother nature to cool it down. We got it down to 65F in 8 minutes...

I'll keep you guys updated.

 

[mtnagel]

Nice set up. I like the mash in a cooler. Do you still have some sort of false bottom?

I just tried my attempt at this which was ~6 months old. It was very good.

 

[MrNic]

Nice set up. I like the mash in a cooler. Do you still have some sort of false bottom?

I just tried my attempt at this which was ~6 months old. It was very good.

I actually brewed it on a friend's setup. The cooler has a pvc manifold, but the bag helps with stuck sparges and keeps lots of particles out.

 

[mtnagel]

So do you sparge through it? Do you lift the bag for mash out?

 

[MrNic]

So do you sparge through it? Do you lift the bag for mash out?

We did a double batch sparge, and it actually got stuck twice. It was nice being able to just lift the bag up when it got stuck. I'm not sure if it got stuck because of the flaked oats...or if the crush was too fine. I'm not sure.

 

[poptarts]

Picture the bag as a giant false bottom, that makes clean up and fixing stuck sparges really easy.

 

[MrNic]

So it's transferred to secondary, but it's only at 1.032. Any ideas on how to get that down more? I was shooting for 1.025 or so.

 

[MrNic]

I guess the first FG reading was wrong. Just checked again yesterday, and somehow it's at 1.041. It's super tasty, but definitely way too sweet. Pitched two packs of Lavlin 1118 to see if I can get it down some more.

When I brew this recipe again, I'm definitely going to brew a smaller beer and use the yeast cake to ferment the ten fidy. I think I'll also mash a couple points lower to help avoid underattenuation.

On the plus side, I bottled the leftover beer and it tastes fantastic! It tastes like slightly sweetened iced coffee, and at 2.4% it's extremely sessionable. It won't last long once it's carbed.

 

[ggriffi]

So I want to brew this but I cannot find British Crystal 53L anywhere. Is there a good substitute?