Syracuse, ny - round 6 group grain buy

[Smashing]

Amazon payments....

https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/personal/money

I used this link.

Overall this works just like Paypal. I added my credit card, clicked "send money" and the recipients (Cidah) email and away it went.

I don't really remember the sign-up portion and I may not have to do much since I've been shopping Amazon for years.

Seemed like it took a day or two to clear Cidahs bank.

I wasn't charged any fees.

*** I just logged in to Amazon Payments and a new box popped up saying: As a result of changes to federal regulations, Amazon Payments requires that you provide your Social Security Number and verify your name and address. Start now.
Not sure how I feel about this. Well - I know how I feel, I just don't know if I'm going to use this now.
Stupid ass government wants it's taxes. If they worked half as hard fixing the system as they do trying to screw us this would be the country our founders meant it to be.

 

[CBK]

Never had or brewed a SMaSH, what am I missing?

Single malt and single hop. The main reason for this style of brewing is to learn about the ingredients being used.

 

[CidahMastah]

Single malt and single hop. The main reason for this style of brewing is to learn about the ingredients being used.

I haven't brewed one either. But the idea is that you are trying ot learn the taste that individual ingredients make on a brew - just as CBK said.

Also - I saw that thing about the SSN as well. I put mine in for now, but I am thinking that we may be using checks to some degree. They may have added a fee, or something. I know we will only get 1K for transfers through amazon per mo too. So I assume we will have to do some checks, some amazon, some chase. It makes it a PITA for me to track, but I can deal with it.

 

[Smashing]

Intrigued. Only base I have is 2-row. Time to do some searching.....

 

[Smashing]

No problem - here you go:


Recipe: Celebration Ale 5g
Style: India Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 7.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.065 SG
Estimated Color: 13.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 68.3 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
10 lbs 12.7 ozPale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 88.45 %
1 lbs 6.5 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 11.55 %
22.27 gm Centennial [10.00 %] (Dry Hop 14 days) Hops -
44.55 gm Cascade [5.50 %] (Dry Hop 14 days) Hops -
24.85 gm Chinook [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 40.4 IBU
21.36 gm Centennial [10.00 %] (15 min) Hops 13.3 IBU
42.72 gm Cascade [5.50 %] (15 min) Hops 14.6 IBU
22.27 gm Centennial [10.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
44.55 gm Cascade [5.50 %] (0 min) Hops -
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) Yeast-Ale
1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 12.20 lb
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Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 15.25 qt of water at 168.2 F 156.0 F


Notes:
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Use CM-PALE or CM-2ROW
156F mash
Ferment 62F ramp to and hold at 68F
98g Cascade @ 5.5% (0 - whirlpool 10-15min)
49g Centennial @ 10.00% (0 - whirlpool 10-15min)
1.065-1.016 (as per website)

When putting this in Beer Smith2, what do you enter the late addition hops as? My options are :
Boil, dry hop, mash, first wort, aroma....

 

[CBK]

When putting this in Beer Smith2, what do you enter the late addition hops as? My options are :
Boil, dry hop, mash, first wort, aroma....

I have beersmith 2 and brewed this recipe 2 weeks ago. I entered the late (flameout) additions under boil.

 

[CidahMastah]

Yeah flame out boil at 0 mins. Cool that you brewed this one, it is on my list soon, but my buddy wanted to brew stouts tomorrow. I got it tough over here

 

[jhenderson27]

Brewed this celebration recipe yesterday. My manifold wanted to be a total dick and fall apart. Had to take all yhe mash out then add it back in after putting back together. Not fun. However the brew was rite on the money and is plugging away now!

 

[Smashing]

I always fear that with my manifold. Fingers crossed. Gonna brew that once I get dough for some hops.

 

[CidahMastah]

Nice!

I got screwed this weekend because my buddy ducked out on Saturday, but I couldn't get at my brew equip because all the steel for the rig was in the way. Then he came over Sunday at 7:30am, only to have his wife come by and tell him he needed to leave at 9:30am... so it was a total wash with nothing brewed and marginal work done on the brew rig....

However, I did pick up a super deal on a 60 amp GFI breaker and have started to install the power set up for the electric rig in the basement (indoor brewing!!!). This is totally awesome because i have just about everything I need except for the wire from the main load center to the subpanel. I will set it up so I can either brew inside, or wheel the rig outside and brew outback. Should be awesome, and will likely make brewing during the week very possible and convenient.

On the xmas list is another PID; if I get that I will be able to simultaneously run the HLT and the BK. Right now I have my system set up to do one, or the other as I only have one PID. the good part about the design I chose was that when i built it, it gave me all the hardware I need to upgrade to the 60amp circuit. WAHOO!

 

[CidahMastah]

Had to post some encouragement for belgian quad lovers. Just tried my westy 12 clone from the pious recipe thread. This one has aged now for over 6 months and wow what difference. It was good "young" as I tried it here and there for the first 2 months. But the grain bill for the new world version withe the belgian candy is $$$. So I really hadn't planned on rebrewing it any time soon since it wasn't IMO a clear outstanding brew just yet. Last night I changed my mind.

When i poured into the glass I could smell a pronounced aroma, without even smelling the rim closely, this aroma lifted up an out readily where my face was about 2-3 feet away and I thought... Sh!T it oxidized and that must be sherry notes. I took a closer smell and it was not sherry oxidation, but dark fruit/cherry, toffee and a slight almost roasty (burnt toffee roasty, a very slight coffee). I figured what the heck I will chew on it so I took a sip. Flavor was incredibly smooth. Alcohol flavor was not pronounced and it was incredibly... incredibly smooth. Rich dark fruit (sweet dark bing cherry reduced in cognac flavor) and caramel toffee rounded flavors on the front end with a pleasant aftertaste. This stuff is fantastic aged at 6 months. It reminded me of the change in wines or ciders I make, never experienced that with beer before. My wife, who didn't like it young before, loved this one, had to grab my glass back!

Anyway, that brew is back on the list and planned to occupy a couple kegs, hopefully brewed over the vacation time this upcoming holiday...

 

[jeffb418]

Had to post some encouragement for belgian quad lovers. Just tried my westy 12 clone from the pious recipe thread. This one has aged now for over 6 months and wow what difference. It was good "young" as I tried it here and there for the first 2 months. But the grain bill for the new world version withe the belgian candy is $$$. So I really hadn't planned on rebrewing it any time soon since it wasn't IMO a clear outstanding brew just yet. Last night I changed my mind.

When i poured into the glass I could smell a pronounced aroma, without even smelling the rim closely, this aroma lifted up an out readily where my face was about 2-3 feet away and I thought... Sh!T it oxidized and that must be sherry notes. I took a closer smell and it was not sherry oxidation, but dark fruit/cherry, toffee and a slight almost roasty (burnt toffee roasty, a very slight coffee). I figured what the heck I will chew on it so I took a sip. Flavor was incredibly smooth. Alcohol flavor was not pronounced and it was incredibly... incredibly smooth. Rich dark fruit (sweet dark bing cherry reduced in cognac flavor) and caramel toffee rounded flavors on the front end with a pleasant aftertaste. This stuff is fantastic aged at 6 months. It reminded me of the change in wines or ciders I make, never experienced that with beer before. My wife, who didn't like it young before, loved this one, had to grab my glass back!

Anyway, that brew is back on the list and planned to occupy a couple kegs, hopefully brewed over the vacation time this upcoming holiday...

I had a bottle of Westvleteren 12 over the summer, it was amazing... and free! Soooo good.

 

[bierhaus15]

Had to post some encouragement for belgian quad lovers. Just tried my westy 12 clone from the pious recipe thread.

Funny you mention this, as I cleaned out my kegerator today and I came across that bottle of quad you had given me sometime in the early summer. I'm glad I lost track of it... it sounds like it's going to be mighty tasty. Looking forward to trying it!

 

[TwoGunz]

My quad is just coming into its own as well and I really enjoyed a glass the other night. Quads are different but when you're in the right mood and have the right one, you can't beat it. Im hoping to compare mine with a rochefort and westy over the holidays. The rochefort is my favorite but it's been awhile since I've cracked one open.

 

[CidahMastah]

My quad is just coming into its own as well and I really enjoyed a glass the other night. Quads are different but when you're in the right mood and have the right one, you can't beat it. Im hoping to compare mine with a rochefort and westy over the holidays. The rochefort is my favorite but it's been awhile since I've cracked one open.

I agree with you. Not something I want every night, but when you are in the mood for it they are great. It is kind of like drinking a port wine. The good ones always taste great, but certain nights call for it, and others not so much. I want to rebrew, so I can slowly pick away at it and have some that last years plus. Not sure how dramatic the improvement will be after 6 months, but just the same it will be worth the experiment.



Oh yeah I forgot about that bierhaus - awesome. Now you will have to decide between holding for another 6 months or pulling hte trigger


Never tried an actual westy myself, and unless it was given to me at a reasonable price there is no way I would buy one. Have seen them on ebay for $150+ each. No thanks... will roll with the clone brew, less than $150 for 11 gallons!


Grabbed some amber syrup from Susnset!

 

[CidahMastah]

I had a bottle of Westvleteren 12 over the summer, it was amazing... and free! Soooo good.

what kind of flavors did you get out of the original westy?

 

[jeffb418]

what kind of flavors did you get out of the original westy?

I dont remember, had alot of good beers that day. Remember it being one of the best beers I've ever had. Very balanced, and delicious. I sold a pinball machine to the guy who had it, and I delivered the machine to York PA. While down there he kept pulling out amazing stuff for my buddy and I to try. Another one I was very impressed with was Hop Slam. He also sent us off with a 12 pack of stuff as well. A few bottles of Troegs Mad Elf from 05 and 06 (properly stored), Dogfish Head Raison D'extra from 07, some aged stuff from Bells, and other stuff from Dogfish as well.

 

[jeffb418]

Man already went through 4 bags of grain! Left with 2x 2-row, half of a munich, 1x of maris otter, and half of a pilz. Having so much in stock makes it so easy to brew more..gah.

Hope that's enough to hold me til the next buy =)

 

[CidahMastah]

Well seeing as how we are only at 22bags and need 84.... I would say you have a little bit of a wait. Not to mention we haven't nailed down a place to deliver to yet.

 

[jeffb418]

Well seeing as how we are only at 22bags and need 84.... I would say you have a little bit of a wait. Not to mention we haven't nailed down a place to deliver to yet.

Rumor has it EJ Wren has Canadian 2row for $50/bag right now, maybe I'll pick one of those up for the time being in case.

I figure I am good until prob March with my current stock.

 

[CidahMastah]

Meh $50 per bag of 2 row - too rich for my blood ha! Though it looks like those chumps are finally learning not to gouge so much.

I noticed some new malts have been added to the NCM sheet. I tried to get this earlier, but was unable - now it is on the sheet:

Split added:
GW-C150 - .25
BZ‐SPLT - .25

I know I will probably be good for another couple bags (but want to see how my brewing goes first):
BZ-PILS
Flaked Barley
MOPA


BZ added a few new varieties, looks like a carapils of sorts and a "spelt" malt. That one looks kind of interesting, and I might go in on a .25 split for that one... heck with it I will!

HOPS

If there are people who are interested I would try to do hops this next time around with the following disclaimer. Minimum buy in would be 1# per type and we would need 11 to close a type. If they have the hops we want in stock we would be getting about $6-9 a lb. Not sure if people are interested in that. Might be something we do right before we place the order so people know what hops they are going to need.

 

[CidahMastah]

Would anybody be interested in going in on a bag of lactose?

GLM‐LACT55 - Lactose 55 pound bag $87.00

I would do up to 1/5 share (maybe more if needed since I really like the cream stouts I ahve been trying and want to brew more). That would give a price of $1.70 per lb including shipping at a maximum (~$18 for 11lbs). I see it in the stores for $3.95 per lb or more (~$43.45 for 11 lbs).

As Jeff said, when you have the stuff in your stores you are more likely to just brew it!

 

[jeffb418]

Would anybody be interested in going in on a bag of lactose?

GLM‐LACT55 - Lactose 55 pound bag $87.00

I would do up to 1/5 share (maybe more if needed since I really like the cream stouts I ahve been trying and want to brew more). That would give a price of $1.70 per lb including shipping at a maximum (~$18 for 11lbs). I see it in the stores for $3.95 per lb or more (~$43.45 for 11 lbs).

As Jeff said, when you have the stuff in your stores you are more likely to just brew it!

I'd definitely go in for lactose. Don't need any more than 11 lbs, max. So if we can do 1/5 split on it, I'm in. Let me know and I'll add that option(of a 1/5 split) and product to the spreadsheet.

 

[jeffb418]

I'd definitely go in for lactose. Don't need any more than 11 lbs, max. So if we can do 1/5 split on it, I'm in. Let me know and I'll add that option(of a 1/5 split) and product to the spreadsheet.

Ok, I went ahead and opened a split for it and jumped in for 1/5. Also updated prices on added splits.

If we want to do hops, let me know and I'll add a new order section to the sheet in the future.

Jeff B

 

[rustbucket]

id be instrested in both the hops and lactose put me down for 1/5 lactose

 

[TwoGunz]

All that talk about the quads made me run home and pour one. I barely got my shoes off before I was nose deep in this fine homebrew.

 

[CidahMastah]

Nice on the quad - how was it?!

By the way - CBK - how was your deception cream stout?

rust - you were added to the lactose - two more to go!

 

[jeffb418]

Cant believe how many splits are listed already. I'll prob jump on a few more.

 

[FL_Brewer]

Added 1/5 Lactose, Great pick up!

 

[CidahMastah]

Added 1/5 Lactose, Great pick up!

Nice! Almost there on the lactose.