Syracuse, ny - round 5 group grain buy

[CidahMastah]

copyright - I got your check today - Thanks!!!

Will deposit it ASAP

 

[rustbucket]

just realized that you probably mean the whiskey barrel - buffalo trace - that cost me 90, but he said they are 120 this year. Right now I have a plastic food grade barrel for the primary for the cider - must not have attached it correctly. That one costs about 62 for the open head design. I plan on racking out of that and back into glass after about a month or so.

mmm i have some buffalo trace sitting around here... that stuff is good!

i really want a barrel or 5 haha

 

[copyright1997]

Sounds to me like you need to get busy making beer.

Ok. Peer pressure worked. Had half a day "free" today, so I brewed 5 gallons of a blond'ish ale:
3.5# Pilsen
3.0# 2row
1.0# flaked maize (corn)
12 oz carapils
8 oz crystal 40
.25 oz centennial @ 55
.25 oz centennial @ 35
.25 oz cascade @ 20
1/4 tsp irish moss @ 10
.25 oz cascade @ 5
used s-04 saved from prior brew.
Post boil SG = 1.043 (beersmith had estimated at 1.042)

Group buys pay! Figuring the yeast @ $2.00 (high, since original was $4.21 and this is using 1/2 on a 2nd round), cost = $12.06. That's $0.23/12 oz bottle. (Not figuring electricity, co2, propane, etc. Or my labor, which is unmeasurable )

I made this mostly for some football gathering friends - some of whom have really liked some brews like the Victory Hop Devil clone, but others who are Corona/BMC types...

 

[rustbucket]

Ok. Peer pressure worked. Had half a day "free" today, so I brewed 5 gallons of a blond'ish ale:
3.5# Pilsen
3.0# 2row
1.0# flaked maize (corn)
12 oz carapils
8 oz crystal 40
.25 oz centennial @ 55
.25 oz centennial @ 35
.25 oz cascade @ 20
1/4 tsp irish moss @ 10
.25 oz cascade @ 5
used s-04 saved from prior brew.
Post boil SG = 1.043 (beersmith had estimated at 1.042)

Group buys pay! Figuring the yeast @ $2.00 (high, since original was $4.21 and this is using 1/2 on a 2nd round), cost = $12.06. That's $0.23/12 oz bottle. (Not figuring electricity, co2, propane, etc. Or my labor, which is unmeasurable )

I made this mostly for some football gathering friends - some of whom have really liked some brews like the Victory Hop Devil clone, but others who are Corona/BMC types...

i know its awesome, now only to get 55lb sacks of hops to split for those prices :fro: haha

but i love how cheap it is.. propane i get 4-5 brews out of a 20# tank so i pay 5 dollars a brew if not less...


Im brewing thrusday since its going to be warm! (LEFT HAND BREWING COMPANY - MILK STOUT) i cant wait i love this one! then sunday i think im doing Chocolate sweet stout

 

[CidahMastah]

i know its awesome, now only to get 55lb sacks of hops to split for those prices :fro: haha

but i love how cheap it is.. propane i get 4-5 brews out of a 20# tank so i pay 5 dollars a brew if not less...


Im brewing thrusday since its going to be warm! (LEFT HAND BREWING COMPANY - MILK STOUT) i cant wait i love this one! then sunday i think im doing Chocolate sweet stout

Nice on the brew copyright!

Rust - I am in a stout fever as well. I was considering doing the deception cream stout recipe on HBT - anybody try that?

You did better than me on the propane, I was lucky to get 3 batches at 60 minute boils out of my tank. One of the reasons I switched over to the ebuild. Now I pay just over a dollar for the entire brew process, even if I have to do a 90 minute boil to drive off DMS for pilsner malt brews.

My brew weekend is back on - looks like I will brew one (ubu?) and work on welding up a brew stand with my buddy!

I want to brew some stouts and porters, but I am going to wait for the RSTB to come in.


I would love to do a bulk hop buy but you need pretty good participation to get a good price. RIght now I would consider about 5-6 lbs of hops for a 1lb buy in; however I don't know that we have ever found a really great price for a bulk buy.

 

[rustbucket]

i would really love a good hop buy... farmhouse is the best most of the time for me right now... on some of the hops with flatrate shipping

Altho i need to figure out where i can buy 2-3 lbs for real cheap of EKG iv been using a ton of those lately...

im kicking into a stout mood as welll

doing left hand this week
chocolate cream stout maybe this weekend
oatmeal stout
denny's bourbon porter
vanilla stout
coffee stout

Pretty much im covering all of them haha~ getting ready for winter.... looking at doing some porters too but not a huge fan of them.

the deception stout i was also looking at.

 

[jeffb418]

i would really love a good hop buy... farmhouse is the best most of the time for me right now... on some of the hops with flatrate shipping

Altho i need to figure out where i can buy 2-3 lbs for real cheap of EKG iv been using a ton of those lately...

im kicking into a stout mood as welll

doing left hand this week
chocolate cream stout maybe this weekend
oatmeal stout
denny's bourbon porter
vanilla stout
coffee stout

Pretty much im covering all of them haha~ getting ready for winter.... looking at doing some porters too but not a huge fan of them.

the deception stout i was also looking at.

This place may be alittle cheaper : http://www.fiftypoundsack.com/products/Kent-Goldings-Pellets.html

Shipping is free. This is where I used to get my malt in the past.

 

[CidahMastah]

Too funny - just ran into Bierhaus in Sunset! haha

Believe it or not I was there to buy... roasted barley! argh.. cream stout for this weekend since my hops won't come in for UBU until next week.

 

[CidahMastah]

PLEASE CHECK HBT DAILY UNTIL ACTUALS ARE RECEIVED


FYI - Just spoke with our buyer and he has placed our order. I would expect that we should get actual pricing NLT COB tomorrow.

I will do my best to get the information out so people can write checks as needed.

Thanks!

 

[rustbucket]

Too funny - just ran into Bierhaus in Sunset! haha

Believe it or not I was there to buy... roasted barley! argh.. cream stout for this weekend since my hops won't come in for UBU until next week.

lol, i was just about to go there today too.. since i just broke/replacing my nasty old siphon

do you buys know a good way to clean them out? mine had like grime and other nasty poop attached to the wall inside it... (was trying to clean it out then i broke it...)

 

[1234]

If you want a source on hops PM me. We do group hop buys. Right now we are at 124 pounds.

 

[TwoGunz]

lol, i was just about to go there today too.. since i just broke/replacing my nasty old siphon

do you buys know a good way to clean them out? mine had like grime and other nasty poop attached to the wall inside it... (was trying to clean it out then i broke it...)

An autosiphon? I fill mine with OxyClean solution and let it soak. When I'm done I use it as a pump and force hot tap water through. Then before use I sanitize... I think the key is to clean before crap dries

 

[CidahMastah]

Also about these hop buys, I was thinking that we could consider doing the 11lbs of hop buys from NCM, but I am not sure what the pricing was for that stuff, I would have to check. The downside would potentially be that... you would need 11 participants for every variety that people want. You would also need 11 people roughly to want 1lb hop bag each. That might be a tough sell, tough to coordinate. Something we could consider for the spring group buy.

*looking at it again though... looks like an eh buy. prices start at ~$7 per lb and go up from there. I mean that is a decent price but for the volum just an eh price for me. I think it will get tough to have people sign up for that much of one hop, unless it is something very common and used a lot.

 

[Mparsons327]

Cidah, if you find a source for hops I would be in for about 5lbs. I agree that it probably won't work out if we have to get 11lbs of each variety.

 

[CidahMastah]

Bierhaus - I recevied your check - thanks!

mparsons327 - We have yet to find a good source, but can keep looking. Most places are about $1 and oz, which you usually can easily get from farmhouse brew supply. It looks like that other group buy is in TN, so not sure how that would work out after we either A. picked it up; or B shipped it. I assume we would have to buy a ridiculous amount to make it worth it. Then there are repackaging costs, etc.

 

[Smashing]

I'd love a hop buy as well. I can't imagine breaking up 100lbs or more of pellets and repacking them. That said I'd probably be good for 5+ pounds if the prices were right.

 

[1234]

You guys don't want to buy with us, but if you wait a week or so I can provide the prices we ended up getting.

 

[CidahMastah]

You guys don't want to buy with us, but if you wait a week or so I can provide the prices we ended up getting.

Sure let us know - we appreciate it. Always good to have options on the table!

Not to mention that most people probably taxed their monthly fun money with this most recent grain buy There probably needs to be a little recovery time.

 

[rustbucket]

ahhhh just mashed in... haha

trying to figure out how to wash this yeast that is high Fluccuating... so i can use the carboy today..

 

[CidahMastah]

I am looking forward to Sat - my first brew in several months. i am trying to decide if I should make it a double brew day or not.... I need to clear some space for incoming grain if we ever get this order in

I am thinking of doing an IPA...

 

[Mparsons327]

I really wish I had that problem.... I'm waiting for this order so that I can brew! haha

 

[rustbucket]

Yeah I'm on the last of my base grain, I have like one sack left. I'm just about to sparge! Mmm milk stout, the problem is I don't drink enough and brew too much.

I have all my kegs full and all my bottles. Plus my eff is pushing 85 for 12 lbs of grain. So I really use less than I intially thought to use

 

[jeffb418]

Yeah I think I am going to make the jump to doing 10 gallon brews. I have a super nice & barely used Sanke Keg that I am going to use as a fermenter since it fits right into my fermentation chamber. Means my less than 1 year old 7 gal conical will get a little less use, really wish i bought the bigger one to start out.

10 gal batches will make lagers easy to keep on tap too.... people seem to drink those like water!

 

[jeffb418]

I brewed a Milk Stout last night myself, the weather was perfect for it since I brew outside

 

[rustbucket]

That's why I'm brewing today since its like 60. I want to do lagers so bad but just don't have the room to do them.

The wort on this one taste so good.

 

[jeffb418]

This is the fermentation chamber I put together from an old dorm fridge. Its awesome for brewing, and very handy to do the initial fermentation for lagers as well. Bending the cooling element was very tricky but in the end it worked out.

 

[CidahMastah]

I have all my kegs full and all my bottles. Plus my eff is pushing 85 for 12 lbs of grain. So I really use less than I intially thought to use

So are you telling us that you use about 3/4 lb less 2row per bacth than us poor suckers in the 75% range? And that is leading your tons of extra grain?!

*elbow jab* haha just messing with you!

I usually get 76-78%, but that is on 11G batches. If I don't double crush wheat brews I would get about 73%, but since I due that I still get in my usual range.

 

[CidahMastah]

Nice chamber jeff - I just got done with mine a while back - check this out

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/super-market-type-refridgerator-fermentation-chamber-262421/

haha!

I framed it out more and put a door with latches on it, and have been trying to decide if I want to make it look pretty and put a couple perlicks on it and serve out of it, or just leave it and use it as my fermentation chamber. It is all wired up for hot and cold, so I figure I will end up doing a little of both!

I think I will just use up some spare tongue and groove I have and dress up the door for taps, leaving the sides ugly and alone. It will be getting a pilsner urquell clone in there soon.

 

[jeffb418]

Very nice!

Yeah chambers are nice to have and definitely contributes to the quality of the end product.

 

[CidahMastah]

Very nice!

Yeah chambers are nice to have and definitely contributes to the quality of the end product.

The only thing that is too bad is that I couldn't make a chamber big enough for my demijohn out of that one (so I have to use two cornies with blow offs for my lagers, etc.). I do have a side room that I crank the AC on in (portable unit), and it lets me get the whole room cold enough to get fermenters to 62F ish. So that is great for if I crank out 2-4 demijohns. Set the temp for 68f and the fermenters get steady temps.

I might end up making another one out of a dorm fridge that I don't use. But that would mean having to buy another controller! Right now I like being able to use the side room for ales and the chamber for lagers, and sometimes belgians.