SYRACUSE NY - ROUND 3 Group Grain Buy

[ScottishPete]

I go to haun - but it is only swaps. I also jumped up to the 20lb tank.

Sunset Hydro on Erie is like 60% of the price of Haun ... they exchange 5lb's and refill 10 and 20 I believe ... gotta come back for the refills tho

 

[CidahMastah]

Sunset Hydro on Erie is like 60% of the price of Haun ... they exchange 5lb's and refill 10 and 20 I believe ... gotta come back for the refills tho

Are you sure on the price? When I first went there and asked, the price was almost exactly the same as haun - but haun's tanks were in better shape. I checked when I got my keg set up in like Nov/Dec last year

 

[CidahMastah]

Just a place holder so I can find this:

Tentative Planned Pick Up:

Stunsm
Rustbucket

jhenderson - Friday (evening)
WPStrassburg - Saturday 9:30am ish
BigBrew54 - Saturday
TwoGunz - Saturday (12pm ish)
Brewscampbell - TBD

Albany
JayMckeever - Driver - Saturday (12pm ish)
Brewdiver
Gergelgat
Brehuh

wheadman66 - Early June - TBD


BOLD GREEN = PICKED UP

 

[ScottishPete]

Are you sure on the price? When I first went there and asked, the price was almost exactly the same as haun - but haun's tanks were in better shape. I checked when I got my keg set up in like Nov/Dec last year

Last time I filled up was ~October of 2010. I think a 5lb replacement at Haun is like $18 and was ~$11 at Sunset. And then a 20lb refill was only like $22 or so at Sunset ...

 

[CidahMastah]

Last time I filled up was ~October of 2010. I think a 5lb replacement at Haun is like $18 and was ~$11 at Sunset. And then a 20lb refill was only like $22 or so at Sunset ...

worth investigating then for the 5lbers. I think they charges me ~23$ for my last 20lber fill at haun - but don't quote me thanks for the tip

 

[CidahMastah]

Jhenderson - I think you said you were jumping on the BM's Blue moon clone soon. I decided I am going to hit that recipe too. I am going to make a few changes though (I think):

10G batch:
1. goose the grain bill to up the OG of no more than 1.054.
2. add in 1-2lbs of oats
3. add in 1 lb of rice hulls - to help combat oat gummy action

If you go ahead with the recipe as is - let me know. would be cool to swap a bottle of that at some point to see the difference the oat addition makes.

 

[jhenderson27]

I am gonna be doing it. Less coriander though. I will be down for that. Ive been reading your back and forths with them in that thread.

 

[CidahMastah]

I always try to do the recipe as is first, so I am still debating. But the fact that there are oats listed as ingredients in the beer makes me want to put them in. The extract wit I did was ok - but the wife wasn't enthused. I want this one to be spot on. I am just going to use regular quaker oats and put them through my mill

 

[rustbucket]

for what i understand, you dont have to grind up the flaked oats or anything for that matter that is flaked, they are good as is

 

[CidahMastah]

for what i understand, you dont have to grind up the flaked oats or anything for that matter that is flaked, they are good as is

yeah but I plan on using quaker regular oats. Just because I might not get a chance to hit the LHBS and I don't know if sunset has them. read somewhere that you should use quick oats or the regular oats through a grinder.

Did you hear something different? this is my first time using oats

 

[rustbucket]

did not know about that, or read about the oats that you mention, i just know the rolled grains are good to go as is.. lol

btw what is your color skeem for those bottles?

 

[CidahMastah]

So this is for Rust and jhenderson:

Orange cap = Blood orange hefe - peaking right now, drink soon

Light blue = moose drool - this one probably needs 1-3 more weeks conditioning but I had one last night and it was getting good

silver cap = amarillo IPA - ready now

Silver with letter P - Amarillo Pale Ale (citra dry hop) - ready now

Dark purple = Wruht 56 Porter - Ready now

Black cap = obsidian Stout - Ready now

 

[rustbucket]

oh cidah i forgot to mention, when you drink that heffe, roust it if you like the yeast in suspension. it was like a cake on the bottom before i started to move it around.

 

[CidahMastah]

yup - thanks for the heads up on the hefe - didn;t know that whole bit until I brewed the blood orange

 

[CidahMastah]

OK - two things:

1. Jaymckeever - when you come, if you can bring a scale. I noticed yesterday when rust picked up that I am not good for much if we have one scale going and you have splits for a bunch of people to do. If we have another scale I can help you with working through the splits. That said you guys have a pretty big order, so I can also just load you up with bags of grain!

2. Just weighed my stuff out this morning - man my grain store, er... reserves are looking good. Love the smell and ... I better get to some brewing!

Looks like I am brewing in the morning Sat unless something whacky happens. So if you show up and I am in a tear - you will know why! Don't take it personal

 

[Smashing]

I read somewhere on here that quick oats are simply rolled thinner than standard oats-making them quicker. Earlier this year I used standard oats and just added it to my 1hr mash. Worked great and the beer came out awesome.

 

[CidahMastah]

I read somewhere on here that quick oats are simply rolled thinner than standard oats-making them quicker. Earlier this year I used standard oats and just added it to my 1hr mash. Worked great and the beer came out awesome.

Good to know - I read similar stuff but I read the quick oats were just cut up smaller to increase surface area, hence they cooked quicker. Looks like now I have the oat part resolved... Now the question is just how much oats should I use

 

[rustbucket]

OK - two things:

1. Jaymckeever - when you come, if you can bring a scale. I noticed yesterday when rust picked up that I am not good for much if we have one scale going and you have splits for a bunch of people to do. If we have another scale I can help you with working through the splits. That said you guys have a pretty big order, so I can also just load you up with bags of grain!

2. Just weighed my stuff out this morning - man my grain store, er... reserves are looking good. Love the smell and ... I better get to some brewing!

Looks like I am brewing in the morning Sat unless something whacky happens. So if you show up and I am in a tear - you will know why! Don't take it personal

didnt mean to keep you out that long away from your painting lol

 

[jhenderson27]

Cidah ill see you tonight. Pm me directions.

 

[CidahMastah]

didnt mean to keep you out that long away from your painting lol

No sweat - I just felt bad that I was sitting there watching you do the work. In general, I have a hard time sitting down, or still

 

[CidahMastah]

Cidah ill see you tonight. Pm me directions.

How are your coming? 90?

PM sent!

 

[jhenderson27]

Thanks again Cidah for making this happen. Now i just gotta brew with all the new supplies. Cant wait to try out those brews from you and rust. Definatly looking forward to the dfh from rust and the amarillo from you cidah. Also the blood orange my gf is dying to try. In the coming weeks i will be doing bluemoon clone, a marris otter porter, my house pale ale, and stones black ipa. Ill set some bottles aside!

 

[rustbucket]

sweet!, so i scored a ton of stuff at beers of the world today while i was out there for graduation

~Lagunitas maxiums
~green flash west coast IPA
~green flash hop head
~saison dupont
~ommegang hennepin
~great divide titan ipa
~goose island IPA
~Troeg's Nugget nectar

 

[CidahMastah]

nice gents, i was enjoying the hefe, then I tried the torpedo again - I might not have missed the mash so bad - I think I was early on it. Good stuff with a retaining head. I decided to save your brews until tomorrow+

Like jhenderson said - be sure to let us all know what you think of the swap so we can brew better!

brewing that wit tom am!

 

[rustbucket]

the hefe that i gave you?, if so how did you like it?

 

[CidahMastah]

the hefe that i gave you?, if so how did you like it?

oh I was having my blood orange hefe - your brew were getting chilled will let you kn\ow when I crack one.

 

[rustbucket]

sounds good, comments are always appreciated, whether it be bad or good. that i have a direction in which way to push and adjust!. i love scientific method! haha.

 

[jhenderson27]

Cidah,

The blood orange heffe is great. My gf thought it to be very flavorful and enjoyably citrusy. Found it great and I don't like wheat beers. Very good mouthfeel, crisp and refreshing. Good aroma and lingering taste. A little to carbonated for my taste but now my gf wants the recipe as she loves it.

Rust,
dfh60. Very nice. Hops are spot on, just a shade darker than dfh and a slight bit more malt, however very balanced and extremely tasty. Perfect carbonation. the lasting hop flavor is very smooth and pleasent.

Overall guys both were stellar. Cudos

 

[CidahMastah]

very cool! I have yet to try any of your brews - but will be having some this week.

Funny about the hefe. It seemed as time went along I wanted more carbonation, then a little more. I wonder if the same will happen for you when you make it. That hefe is really growing on me (not a wheat guy either!). I can definitely give you the details on how I did the recipe. PM? Mouthfeel improved significantly since the 14 day tasting - very silky.

At first I was disappointed in the younger version of the hefe - it seems like it really rounded out. Next time I make the BO heffe, I think I will wait 4-5 weeks before trying. I tried this at 2 weeks and it was good - but its much better now! Now I find myself craving it.

 

[jhenderson27]

Yah PM me the recipe ill add it to my list. I got all the stuff for bm bluemoon this weekend. Stoked to make it. It was too nice to brew yesterday. Just enjoyed the weather.