Belgian Blond Ale SWMBO Slayer - Belgian Blonde

[ChefBrew]

I am giving this a run this weekend and am ordering from AHS. This is my first non-boxed attempt at an extract.

I am using the following(from a previous post ):

3 lbs. Wheat DME
2 lbs. Extra Lght DME
8 oz. Caramel 10°L
8 oz. Flaked Wheat
4 oz. Caravienne malt
1 oz Williamette hops

I am assuming that I should combine the flaked wheat,carmel, and Caravienne malts in a single grain bag and steep those ?
Does this recipe sound right ( it differs from the extract version that BierMuncher posted) ?

Thanks a bunch!
Larry

I'd like to hear BierMuncher's opinion (or anyone else for that metter)on this recipe. It looks to me like a PM recipe, and that's right up my ally. I'm pretty much interested in the orignal recipe on this thread, but not capable of AG. In other words I would like to slay my SWMBO with a PM recipe that's similar.

 

[kjones]

just, opened a bottle of this yesterday, let me tell you this is the best all grain batch i have ever made hands down. This just such a well balanced beer, thanks bm.

 

[BierMuncher]

just, opened a bottle of this yesterday, let me tell you this is the best all grain batch i have ever made hands down. This just such a well balanced beer, thanks bm.

Glad you liked it. I need to get a batch of this going again. It makes a nice malty brew for the winter...without the dark grains.

 

[jimba009]

the online stores may be cheaper, but when you need something quick (like a broken hydrometer) you can't beat the LHBS. I am glad i have one within walking distance of the pad.

 

[milracing]

Hi I just found this thread and it Perfect. I have a whit getting ready to finish in the primary with wpl410 and want something to start on the yeast cake. Man you have a bunch of nice looking recipes! I just shake up the wort and dump on the cake?
Thanks!

 

[BierMuncher]

Hi I just found this thread and it Perfect. I have a whit getting ready to finish in the primary with wpl410 and want something to start on the yeast cake. Man you have a bunch of nice looking recipes! I just shake up the wort and dump on the cake?
Thanks!

Dump it right on the cake indeed.

But make sure to rig a blow off tube. The blonde recipe along with that wit yeast can get pretty "exciting".

 

[jimba009]

Do you use anything for priming sugars if you bottle?

 

[BierMuncher]

Do you use anything for priming sugars if you bottle?

The normal priming sugar blend, 3/4 cup of corn sugar to a five gallon batch.

Just make sure the beer is fully (3+ weeks) fermented.

 

[milracing]

Thanks again. Its been bubbling. Didn't get a blow off tube but it doesn't seem that vigorous. Hopefully it will be ok. My og was good. Need to get the stuff to do iodine test, for peace of mind

 

[jimba009]

I plan on pitching this onto my cake from the easy wit recipe on this site, but i will still let it ferment for 3+ weeks if that is what you recommend!

 

[milracing]

Just checked it. Yeast dropped. Gravity went from 1.054 to 1.020 giving abv just under 4.5. Seems pretty darn low. Going to try giving it a swirl. Its been in the primary for 10 days. Bubbling is done to.Wondering if I should just rack it, swirl and check it in a few days, or pitch a bit of dry yeast...... My og was great. I had the same problem with my hoegaarden clone thats in the secondary now. Maybe not getting enough out of my mash, but the og is nice. Maybe just all unfermentable sugar?

 

[milracing]

Just had the first bottle. I'm not a SWMBO but I'm slayed. Going to make it again. mmmm yummy!

 

[milracing]

Oh, it slayed the SWMBO by the way

 

[milracing]

Just made it. +1 for big hit!
Anybody tried to make this with a dry yeast?
How do you think that would be?

 

[RCCOLA]

Just made it. +1 for big hit!
Anybody tried to make this with a dry yeast?
How do you think that would be?

Just made a blue moon style wit with s-33 dry yeast.It definitely does not have a belgian yeast type flavor.It's more crisp/clean tasting.More like blue moon than a true belgian like hoegaarden.Danstar has just come out w/ a german wheat beer yeast called Munich.I have a pack but haven't used it yet.It will go in my next wit.

 

[BeerPressure]

This may be on my spring-time brew list.

 

[scinerd3000]

2 words...blow off! I had a huge fermentation with this. Tastes great. I just threw this in the keg and it should be ready soon. Cant wait

 

[fivehoursfree]

Here are my calculations for a Partial Mash version. Maybe someone could run it through some brewing software to see if it matches up well enough to the original. Also, I do math better on paper, so this is up for edit an correction.

---------------------------------------------------
2.25 lb Pale Malt Extract
3.00lb lb Wheat Malt extract

2.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row)
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L
0.50 lb Wheat, Flaked
0.25 lb Caravienne Malt

1.00 oz Williamette [5.50%] (60 min)
---------------------------------------------------
I would follow the standard mash technique: 45min @ ~155F, sparge @ 170F.


Some notes: Austin homebrew does have wheat malt, so I put all the wheat as extract. They also don't have "pale" LME, they have "Extra Pale". I don't know if thats the same thing or not. Close enough?

How does this look?

 

[fivehoursfree]

Ok, I did more research and realize that wheat extract is partially pale malt. ssoooo

MASH
1.0lb Belgian pale
1.5lb wheat (white wheat or red wheat?)
.5lb Crystal 10L
.5lb wheat flake
.25 lb caravienne
-------------------------------------
add 5lb Wheat LME

1.00oz willamette @60min

 

[profarm]

well I just did this today, and my OG was 1.051-52. I am using a CPVC manifold and a 48qt cooler...We shall see.

 

[BierMuncher]

well I just did this today, and my OG was 1.051-52. I am using a CPVC manifold and a 48qt cooler...We shall see.

Mind that fermenter closely. This recipe likes to blow off.

 

[bdnoona]

Ok, I did more research and realize that wheat extract is partially pale malt. ssoooo

MASH
1.0lb Belgian pale
1.5lb wheat (white wheat or red wheat?)
.5lb Crystal 10L
.5lb wheat flake
.25 lb caravienne
-------------------------------------
add 5lb Wheat LME

1.00oz willamette @60min

Does this look like a reasonable conversion to partial mash? I'm hoping to brew this on Saturday but can't do AG yet.

 

[fivehoursfree]

Yea, I don't know. No one has commented on it yet. I'm doing a Belgian Wit right now, with the idea to use the yeast from that to do this one. I think I'm just going to bite the bullet and give it a shot. As I learn more, I realize that a smaller boil will lower the hop utilization, but I plan on compensating by not adding the extract until 15 minutes left in the boil. I don't know if it's exact, but it should increase the hop utilization enough.
Hopefully I will have time to mess around with the brewsmith before I start it.

 

[fivehoursfree]

Ok, so I messed with the brewsmith a little. According to a 3 gal boil, if you added 1.5 lb of extract at the beginning of the boil (the rest near the end, 15 min) 1oz of hops should be fine. I also calculated if you add all the extract at the beginning, you would need 1.5oz of hops to get in the same general area.( a little under 20ibu). Adding all the extract darkens the color a bit, but the late extract addition gets it right. So I will probably be doing the late extract addition.

 

[jcarson83]

This turned out to be an excellent brew. I brewed it for SWMBOs back off the wagon present (pregnant) but I don't think it will make it. I guess I'll have to do another batch.

 

[ninety3oc]

im a noob to brewing but would this be a good beer as a base to a fruit beer.. maybe rack to secondary on top of fresh oranges or blueberries?

 

[Santalab_2000]

Here are my calculations for a Partial Mash version. Maybe someone could run it through some brewing software to see if it matches up well enough to the original. Also, I do math better on paper, so this is up for edit an correction.

---------------------------------------------------
2.25 lb Pale Malt Extract
3.00lb lb Wheat Malt extract

2.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row)
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L
0.50 lb Wheat, Flaked
0.25 lb Caravienne Malt

1.00 oz Williamette [5.50%] (60 min)
---------------------------------------------------
I would follow the standard mash technique: 45min @ ~155F, sparge @ 170F.


Some notes: Austin homebrew does have wheat malt, so I put all the wheat as extract. They also don't have "pale" LME, they have "Extra Pale". I don't know if thats the same thing or not. Close enough?

How does this look?

I am putting together a partial mash recipe for this brew right now. Your recipe seems to have a lot of extract to me, cause I usually hit an OG of around 1.05* using ~4lb. of grain and 3.3lbs of DME for a 5.5gallon batch. I haven't made this yet, but here's my plan:

Maris Otter 2.2lb
Wheat malt 1.5lb
Crystal malt 0.4lb
Wheat DME 3.3lb (which is 60%wheat and 40%barley)
Same yeast and hops as above

I'd suggest to add some of the wheat malt for balance instead of relying on extract 100%. Wheat malt is pretty common so unless there's a shortage of some sort, I'd just order it from somewhere else. Also, I'd throw in 0.25lb of caravienna malt and some flaked wheat (maybe 0.25lb) into the mash. I just can't get those last two items where I live.

Hope this helps. Keep us posted on what you decide to do and how your beer turns out!

 

[fivehoursfree]

yea, I didn't know what I was talking about when I put that together......

 

[auto]

Brewed this last weekend, still fermenting like crazy, lucky for that blowoff tube. Can't wait on this one.

 

[profarm]

I did this back at the end Nov. and it's been on the gas for about 3 weeks, I tasted the other day and it tastes like the yeast smells...I can't drink it, it has a very phenolic taste.