Summit hop experiences?

[otis34]

I just made an APA with Summit and it was delicious. There was a hint or onion garlic, but not enough to bother anything. It does have quite the orange/grapefruit character.

Hop schedule
.5 oz Summit 60 min
.5 oz Summit 10 min
1 oz Palisade 10 min

 

[Montanaandy]

Out of fairness the only examples of Summit use that I have had have been commercial in nature (Oskar Blues Gubbna) which I thought was gut wrenching - like drinking a can of carbonated cold onion soup. My guess is that they used to much in the bittering because most of you that favor this hop have higher additions at the end/flameout. I plan on ordering some Summit and using it to see if it reveals the flavors that others have been alluding to. Crossing my fingers...

 

[Irrenarzt]

You are an adventurous man Andy, I'll grant you that.

Gubna is like drinking a blended durian slathered with the **** from an onion manwhore. Just plain awful...

 

[user 57668]

Just made a single hop variety of my house IPA using only summit. It had a lot of onion and garlic in the nose and back of the tongue. Some loved it, others hated it (I hated it); either way, all 5 gallons were gone within a month of kegging. I will also say that it got noticeably smoother as time went on.

 

[Grantman1]

What are some commercial brews that use Summit other than Gubna? I'm tempted to pull the trigger on a 1/2 lb but want to see how I perceive it first (tangerine or garlic).

 

[Chello]

I think it's crop variations. 3 years ago Summit was a Tangerine bomb and amazing. the 2010 crop (or atleast what i got) had an zero citrus and all onion. So i haven't tried any since.

 

[wncbrewer]

I think it's crop variations. 3 years ago Summit was a Tangerine bomb and amazing. the 2010 crop (or atleast what i got) had an zero citrus and all onion. So i haven't tried any since.

This is the only reasonable explanation I have heard yet. These are such contrasting flavors that I have a hard time believing that this is a matter of personal taste.

 

[Irrenarzt]

What are some commercial brews that use Summit other than Gubna? I'm tempted to pull the trigger on a 1/2 lb but want to see how I perceive it first (tangerine or garlic).

Not many that I know of (thankfully) but I know Santa Fe Brewing Company uses it in their Happy Camper IPA. Beachwood uses it in the Laurel IPA also. Other than these and Gubna, I'm not sure. Hopefully it doesn't become trendy to use Summit.

 

[badhabit]

Great Divide in Colorado uses it. I love the stuff and brew several beers with it. I have a SMaSH that is my favorite IPA and use it in an American Brown. I always pick up the onion/garlic hint.

 

[Irrenarzt]

You are a depraved man. You want some goat cheese to go with that SMaSH?

 

[wncbrewer]

My plan to salvage this onion bomb is to try to mask the aroma with dry hops. I have some zythos and falconers flight that I have been meaning to try, both buckets will get a couple ounces and hopefully it wont taste like shallot infused prison hooch

 

[badhabit]

You are a depraved man. You want some goat cheese to go with that SMaSH?

Obviously we have a wherewolf on this forum

 

[Irrenarzt]

I'm sure there are more than one.

 

[brtisbuck]

What are some commercial brews that use Summit other than Gubna? I'm tempted to pull the trigger on a 1/2 lb but want to see how I perceive it first (tangerine or garlic).

Tommyknocker uses these I believe.

I will be brewing an IPA this weekend using Summit.

Chinook @ 60
Summit @ 15 and 0
Willamette @ 5 and 0

I will decide on the dry hop schedule based on the taste of my gravity sample. I was planning on Summit and maybe a little Willamette, but if it gets too scallion like I will scrap that idea and go with something guaranteed citrus....and alot of it.

 

[badhabit]

Anybody know where I can pick up a pound of Summit now at a good price?

 

[paraordnance]

I love summit hops. I had 4 oz from FHBS and they went fast! No onion what so ever. I read so much about onion & summit that I was scared a little to use them. Brewed a Sacred Summit recipe and really liked results.

 

[ne0t0ky0]

You are an adventurous man Andy, I'll grant you that.

Gubna is like drinking a blended durian slathered with the **** from an onion manwhore. Just plain awful...

I LOL'ed. That's the best description of Gubna I've ever read...

 

[wncbrewer]

I LOL'ed. That's the best description of Gubna I've ever read...

+1... I have ten gallons of all summit pale that fits that description perfectly

 

[brtisbuck]

I brewed Sunday. I had 3 Summit additions from 20 to flameout with not even a hint of onion. Looks like I'm gonna dry hop with them.

 

[fastricky]

Man, I don't get all the Summit-hate. Especially the 'onion' and 'garlic' references.

To me, Summit is definitely a bold hop - with a very spicy, resiny, and slightly citric blend of flavors.

 

[Irrenarzt]

Everyone senses these flavors differently. It's very subjective. Some of us get the onion manwhore flavor, others perceive tangerine. Not much to "get" really.

 

[Montanaandy]

i lol'ed. That's the best description of gubna i've ever read...

+1

 

[505-Brewer]

only used em for flavor/aroma additions - I get tangerine and orange. Once thought I got a hint of onion in my RyePale Ale but it might have been the tacos i had for lunch.

 

[dukes]

I LOL'ed. That's the best description of Gubna I've ever read...

For real. I'm having it right now...glad I only bought just one can. Also glad I decided to do a Columbus SMaSH instead of Summit for my next brew. Definitely not giving up on Summit though.

 

[nufad]

I just brewed up a 1 gallon SMaSH using Summit, and only used late boil additions (<10min). While the pellets had a distinct onion/garlic aroma, the finished beer was all tangerine with a faint peach taste. The tangerine flavour and aroma were confirmed by 3 others who tried it. Looking forward to using them in an APA this spring.

 

[Calichusetts]

I never smelled the onion/garlic until I read about it on here. Then I smelled the hops and sort of got it. Still, all tangerine after conditioning. LOVE summit. I work it into as many recipes as I can. And since I late hope, the high AA level means I'm really not using that much to get the bitterness I need.

 

[Obliviousbrew]

Summit it´s a nice hop and very cheap I never got the onion aroma

 

[hampshirebrewer]

I wonder if the onion garlic vs tangerine is a function of whole hops or pellet hops?

I used only whole Summits again this year in an IPA as FWH and late additions starting with 15 minutes and again got a mildly tangerine-y IPA. I do use pellets as dry hops with no adverse effect on flavor.

Used half of a pound of whole Summits from 2011 harvest for the brew and 2 oz pellets for dry hop.

I prefer my onions and garlic in pasta sauce where they belong.

Currently have a Summit blond fermenting...

 

[Dannabis]

I've found Summit on Ebay as of summer/fall 2013 listed by the user hausotterted

here is a direct link to a Summit listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181212584602

(apologies for posting a link in my first message.)

I tried these on a whim and they are fragrant and fresh and delicious.

 

[Calichusetts]

I will say it was Peak Organic's Fall Summit Ale that got me hooked on Summit and this year's batch had some lingering garlic/onion that I have really not experienced with the hop. Could be a harvest-based phenomenon.