Stealing brewery glassware

[Lutter]

You know who should weigh in on this? cosmicevan . He has lots and lots and lots of opinions on glassware that I always find to be be well-reasoned and totally fair. Gosh, I hope he's seen this thread. I await his thoughts with bated breath.

mods --are we good now?

LOL.

 

[liquiddegenerate]

I have trade for glass #182 of 269 in the works... unobtainable... ha!

 

[duketheredeemer]

you mean to ****** tell me it's "Cosmic Evan" and not "Cos Mice Van"?

 

[MikeJones]

you mean to ****** tell me it's "Cosmic Evan" and not "Cos Mice Van"?

My eyes skip the e and I always read it Cosmic Van

 

[Flunky]

**** any "rare" glassware that amounts to nothing more than mass-produced Libbey glasses with some printing on them that a brewery could order ten thousand more of with a day's notice.

 

[harrymel1]

Lol this is just a set up to justify the next beer price hikes.

Suckers

 

[Fingolfin]

Every time I go to Sender1's house I steal a glass.
Every time Sender1 comes to my house he leaves a glass.

Somehow he still has more glasses than cosmicevan

 

[Stubs]

I love when people add modifiers to binary states. Something is either wrong or it's not, there's no such things as "less wrong". It's still wrong!

So murder should only be tried in one degree? Involuntary manslaughter is the same as premeditated murder?


Edit- shoulda read ahead, but morality is all sorts of shades. This is almost as bad as when you said flour tortillas were better than corn.

 

[Hanzo1]

I think the only viable solution here is strip searches for everyone before they exit the brewery grounds.

 

[sacrelicio]

I think the only viable solution here is strip searches for everyone before they exit the brewery grounds.

#pintass

 

[sacrelicio]

If they started selling those exact same glasses, starting next week, I wonder how steeply the rate of theft would drop.

 

[Gaseous Clay]

This is almost as bad as when you said flour tortillas were better than corn.

Ill get the torches you get the pitchforks

 

[JulianB1]

If they started selling those exact same glasses, starting next week, I wonder how steeply the rate of theft would drop.

By quite a bit I'd think. I've had versions of this conversation before, both online stemming from situations such as this Tree House one (Birds Fly South, a small brewery in SC, has brought up this issue on their social media pages a few times), and in person with friends opening a brewery who were debating glassware strategy. Both anecdotally and based on data that breweries have reported, customers are -much- less likely to steal a glass if they are given the option to purchase it. It's only when their only option to obtain the glass is to walk off with it that such a thing happens regularly. Like Gene, not saying that's right at all (it's not), but it's what happens. One of the most common self-justifications I've heard others use is that they leave an additional tip of 10 bucks or something in that range to make up for the cost of the glass. Obviously that doesn't make it okay, but it does seem to indicate that the hypothetical cost of the glass isn't the reason they are stealing it.

 

[sacrelicio]

By quite a bit I'd think. I've had versions of this conversation before, both online stemming from situations such as this Tree House one (Birds Fly South, a small brewery in SC, has brought up this issue on their social media pages a few times), and in person with friends opening a brewery who were debating glassware strategy. Both anecdotally and based on data that breweries have reported, customers are -much- less likely to steal a glass if they are given the option to purchase it. It's only when their only option to obtain the glass is to walk off with it that such a thing happens regularly. Like Gene, not saying that's right at all (it's not), but it's what happens. One of the most common self-justifications I've heard others use is that they leave an additional tip of 10 bucks or something in that range to make up for the cost of the glass. Obviously that doesn't make it okay, but it does seem to indicate that the hypothetical cost of the glass isn't the reason they are stealing it.

Right, if you can buy it, you'd probably feel like a dirtbag for stealing it. It's like shoplifting a bag of Skittles. Why not just pony up a few bucks for the glass?

If you can't buy it, people find a way to justify taking it. It's not right, obviously, and people know that, but it's one of those little mischievous things that people do so they can show it to their friends or whatever. Like stealing a branded towel from a famous hotel or stealing a sign and hanging it in your garage. Add in the beer glassware geeks and you're gonna have a problem.

 

[tosh1]

So i have this glassware. It is rare and it is unique.

I will happily allow anyone to come by and steal it, in fact I am encouraging theft of this glassware
At this point

 

[Sage1]

tosh if you want friends over at your place you can just ask

 

[tosh1]

tosh if you want friends over at your place you can just ask

Lol. I obviously worded that wrong.

**** interacting with people. Will leave on front porch. Help yourself. Do not knock.

 

[Thevicster]

"Wrong" is actually only binary if used as a synonym to "incorrect." When using it as a synonym to the word "immoral," then "more wrong" or "less wrong" is perfectly acceptable. Just like saying something is "more moral" or "more immoral." For example, it's more immoral to murder someone than it is to punch them. Or, using "wrong" as a synonym, it's acceptable to say that murder is "more wrong."

When did it become immoral to punch someone? Should I stop asking people to meet me in the treehouse parking lot?

More on point, a large number of the clientele sell the cans on the secondary market, I can't say I'm surprised to find out some of them are thieves as well.

 

[Snarf1]

What sort of ******* decides to get glasses stolen purposefully solely so they can complain about it at the same time they're making truckloads of cash?

That does it, I'm not drinking Treehouse anymore out of protest!

 

[gregkoko]

So murder should only be tried in one degree? Involuntary manslaughter is the same as premeditated murder?


Edit- shoulda read ahead, but morality is all sorts of shades. This is almost as bad as when you said flour tortillas were better than corn.

 

[Stubs]

What sort of ******* decides to get glasses stolen purposefully solely so they can complain about it at the same time they're making truckloads of cash?

That does it, I'm not drinking Treehouse anymore out of protest!

Seriously millions...

Solution, use plain ******* glasses.


Done.

 

[litheum94]

plain ******* glasses.

Missionary glass?

 

[TripleSixHoppia]

Just looked it up. Single color Willi pints are $1.25 plus shipping, $1.57 at the low volume end.

My shipping was $40 on way heavier glassware.

Bruh.............

 

[stupac2]

"Wrong" is actually only binary if used as a synonym to "incorrect." When using it as a synonym to the word "immoral," then "more wrong" or "less wrong" is perfectly acceptable. Just like saying something is "more moral" or "more immoral." For example, it's more immoral to murder someone than it is to punch them. Or, using "wrong" as a synonym, it's acceptable to say that murder is "more wrong."

I think you're wrong (immoral/moral is also a binary) but I don't care enough to argue.

 

[Thevicster]

ISO: moralistic relativity thread.

 

[tehzachatak]

So, I've never stolen glassware from a brewery or tasting room (and never will). On the other hand, I routinely helped myself to glassware from bars for a while back in my early 20s (happy to admit it). Not your Armsby Abbeys of the world, but stuff like branded pints, etc. from random bars.

My personal rationalization is that bars (and sometimes retailers) typically get this glass free from distributors. Some turn around and sell it, which has always felt pretty questionable to me. Otherwise, bars just accumulate this ****.

Obviously, it's still not "okay." If it was "okay," the bar would just say "take whatever glasses you want!" But, it bothered me less. Any thoughts?

 

[FoudreGuy]

My favorite neighborhood pub had branded glassware made for their 30th anniversary this Summer. I thought about pocketing one but just asked if there was any way I could get one and they added $5 to my bill. Win win.

 

[nanobrew1]

I have never stole a glass. If there is a glass I truly wanted I would ask if they had glasses for sale. Most of the time I would be told yes, and they would sell me the glass I was using or grab a fresh one, or they would say I can have it. Sometimes I would be told no and that is fine. I have a friend who used to steal glasses and she had no problem with it, though after talking with her more I think she has stopped. People stealing glasses is why Toronado doesn't use their branded glassware or unique glassware anymore. They used to have Underberg glasses but started serving it in shot glasses due to theft.

As others have pointed out, that Tree House glass could not have cost much. The best way to stop the bulk of theft is it sell the glasses at $3-4. A small amount that won't encourage theft (especially for the reselling market) yet enough to cover cost and bring in a little extra $$.

 

[FoudreGuy]

As others have pointed out, that Tree House glass could not have cost much. The best way to stop the bulk of theft is it sell the glasses at $3-4. A small amount that won't encourage theft (especially for the reselling market) yet enough to cover cost and bring in a little extra $$.

They could sell them for $10-$15 easily.

 

[Thevicster]

So, I've never stolen glassware from a brewery or tasting room (and never will). On the other hand, I routinely helped myself to glassware from bars for a while back in my early 20s (happy to admit it). Not your Armsby Abbeys of the world, but stuff like branded pints, etc. from random bars.

My personal rationalization is that bars (and sometimes retailers) typically get this glass free from distributors. Some turn around and sell it, which has always felt pretty questionable to me. Otherwise, bars just accumulate this ****.

Obviously, it's still not "okay." If it was "okay," the bar would just say "take whatever glasses you want!" But, it bothered me less. Any thoughts?

What business is it of anyone how the bar got the glass? They own it, not you. It's theirs to do with as they please. If someone gives you a birthday gift, is it okay for me to steal it from you because you got it for free?