Do you have plans to sell a full element kit, element + enclosure kits?
Well, you do have to add the element of your choice to your cart and then the enclosure of your choice, but even if "kitted" you'd get the exact same thing in the box because these have to be put together on your kettle anyway, so you wouldn't gain anything by having them assembled before shipping.
Any update on the estimated arrival of these?Nope, they are U.S. made but there was a factory delay.
Just an FYI everyone, those ripple elements are on his site now. I just ordered one for my BK, along with some camlock fittings to integrate a flow switch, like Augie has. I'm going to stick with my original straight stainless elements for my HLT and RIMS, since the HLT won't touch wort, and when the RIMS is touching wort, it will be at 120v.
Nope, they are U.S. made but there was a factory delay.
Camco 02965 is all stainless too right?
So http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/ is fibbing when they say the new elements are all ss?
The Electric Brewery said:The black heating rod portion is made from the highest Grade Nickel and Chromium Incoloy which is high temperature and corrosion resistant. It is essentially a mix of premium grade nickel and stainless steel. Incoloy is about 8 times more expensive, lighter, and more corrosion resistant than standard 304/316 stainless steel. It will not rust.
You are referring to the old Camco elements such as the 02963 5500W ripple element. This is the element that brewers have been using for years, including myself - I still use them actually as I don't have rust issues.The base is zinc coated steel and sometimes they turn black and dont rust and other times they rust... some people treat them with olive oil to condition the surface and I hear that helps if done before the rust starts. Others just coat them in silicone.
Correct.They do call them stainless elements, but they are talking about the base.
You are referring to the old Camco elements such as the 02963 5500W ripple element. This is the element that brewers have been using for years, including myself - I still use them actually as I don't have rust issues.
For years everyone's been told to not leave water in the kettles for extended durations as the base of the element may rust. Or use an anode. It's a bigger issue in the HLT.
The new Camco 02965 (5500W) and 02955 (4500W) ripple elements that they've recently released have a stainless base that will not rust. This is what we at theelectricbrewery.com now use exclusively. They pretty much look the same as the previous 02963 elements. I tried to summarize the info here.
Pictures:
Kal
The colour of the metal/material doesn't really mean anything. There are various types and finishes to stainless.I believe you but the elements you have pictured appear to have nickel/ zinc bases? look at the color of the base compared to the stainless screws... Those bases looks to be the same as my nickel or zinc coated ones.
The colour of the metal/material doesn't really mean anything. There are various types and finishes to stainless.
Kal
They're the standard/generic pictures from Camco's website.
Kal
The camco branded ones look pretty close to the ones I stock but I know those particular ones are not made at the same factory due to the plastic base at the back. Although mine do not carry the Camco brand/numbering, I want to be sure people know that they are also made in the USA by one of the two large element manufactures.
They're the standard/generic pictures from Camco's website.
Kal
Good point on the last item. I had not thought about that since the Camco ones are indeed UL rated.I am pretty sure the 02965 ripple element is constructed as follows - I have one in hand at the moment:
- Base is machined out of stainless, not plated
- Element sheath is made of incoloy (800 series stainless)
- Electrical terminals and screws are bright nickel plated, base metal is most likely brass. UL Listed connection I doubt stainless is allowed.
I don't... My manufacturer (Spike Innovations) is supposed to take some official pics but they've just been too busy and it's (rightfully so) not high on the priority list... I'll post if/when we get some.Do you have photos of the actual new SS base CAMCO?
I am pretty sure the 02965 ripple element is constructed as follows - I have one in hand at the moment:
- Base is machined out of stainless, not plated
- Element sheath is made of incoloy (800 series stainless)
- Electrical terminals and screws are bright nickel plated, base metal is most likely brass. UL Listed connection I doubt stainless is allowed.
Its ironic to me that nickel platesd brass would be allowed (as would steel) But stainless which is mainly a nickel and steel mixture as far as I understand is not allowed...I have read that stainless does not make the best conductor but I had assumed (probably incorrectly) that it was the nickel that caused this? There must be more to it.
If you say so... I work with different grades of the the stuff all the time and I have never seen it vary that much in color unless its discolored by heat...
Unless you took those pictures yourself I would guess its the standard generic pic camco uses.
@pablosbrewing: Who's heating elements are you showing us in your photos? Were these ones purchased through my site at TheElectricBrewery.com? They look identical to the Camco 02965 ones we have for which I posted photos earlier.
Kal
Cool - so they are indeed the 02965 stainless base model then. Thanks for confirming.They are Camco 02965's from https://www.plumbingsupply.com/ they were the first place I found the stainless base ripples.
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