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For those with experience using the different types of valves (standard ball valve, 3-piece ball valve and butterfly; threaded and welded), please offer your opinion as to which application you feel each is more/less appropriate. Thanx...







 
Butterfly valves are great because of their simple and sanitary design. Unlike ball valves, butterfly valves can be completely cleaned and sanitized in place, without needing to take them apart for thorough cleaning. As such, I believe they are ideal for the wort/beer side of the brewing process. In my opinion they would ideally be used on fermenter outlets and on kettle outlets. They are not that good at finely controlling flow, so they perhaps are not ideal for controlling pump flow rates or for controlling flow through a sparge return on a mash tun or a tangential inlet on a boil kettle.

Ball valves offer good flow control but are a bit harder to clean. They are typically cheaper than butterfly valves. I would use them for controlling flow with pumps and on the water side of the brewery. Three piece would be my preference as they can be disassembled and cleaned, but the economy valves offer similar performance at a lower price.

Threaded fittings tend to be cheaper than sanitary fittings, but they must be disassembled after each use in order to properly clean and sanitize to the level of tri clamp fittings. As such, a threaded butterfly valve doesn't make much sense in my opinion.

My personal preference would be to not have any welded-on valves. I want to be able to remove any and all valves for cleaning and/or storage or to make way for other attachments. As such, my preference would be to have welded universal fittings, such as tri clamp fittings, that can be adapted to a variety of valves and attachments. NPT fittings are also common and popular, allowing for less expensive hardware to be used, but in either case, it is the fitting that is welded, allowing the valve to be removable.
 
I can't think of anything with which I would disagree. My preference is to use the tri-clamp mostly commonly found in the dairy industry with whatever type of valve is best suited for the job at hand.
 
Tri clamps are used in every industrial food and beverage processing facility I have every seen. I use threaded on my hot side (and anything that will be hot such as pumps, chillers, etc).

Tri clamps on my conical all the way with butterfly valves. I also run CIP on the conical so there is that.
 
"Tri clamps on my conical all the way with butterfly valves".
Some have said that the flow rate is difficult to control with butterfly valves. How would you compare the two?

BTW, I meant that tri-clamps are widely used in many industries such as the dairy industry.
 
Some have said that the flow rate is difficult to control with butterfly valves. How would you compare the two?

BTW, I meant that tri-clamps are widely used in many industries such as the dairy industry.

I figured you knew but wanted to clarify for those that may not.

Butterfly valves can control flow but not very well. I believe they cause more turbulance than ball valves. Each has it's pros/cons and applications which each is more appropriate.
 
thatjonguy, you said you now use butterfly valves on everything, but they may not be the best for all applications (we're talking home brewing applications).

Did it just take some time to adjust to the difference and your are okay with it now, or would you change anything?
 
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