Well tonight's planed launch is at a crappy time to view (5:21 pm Pacific) but will try and watch anyways.
Turksat 6A Mission
Turksat 6A Mission
Spot the Space Station
- Thread starter passedpawn
- Start date
Help Support Homebrew Talk:
Well that's interesting, I think SpaceX web people are drunk today. First it said, 5:21 at Vandenberg, now it says 7:30 at at Cape Canaveral. Then I get an email that it's at 7:46 at Vandenberg again.
Here's my prediction, somewhere at some time a rocket might be launched!
Space is hard
Here's my prediction, somewhere at some time a rocket might be launched!
Space is hard
A small compilation of nebulas photographed by Hubble over the years. Look like candy 
Cheers!
Cheers!
- Joined
- Nov 26, 2013
- Messages
- 9,915
- Reaction score
- 24,067
Gorgeous!A small compilation of nebulas photographed by Hubble over the years. Look like candy
View attachment 853075
Cheers!
NASA needs to proffer a new candy crush like game.
No way should NASA fly anyone back home on it, it's time to pull the plug on Starliner (and the SLS) and give the contracts to SpaceX...
https://news.yahoo.com/news/sounding-boeings-starliner-may-completely-165211616.html
https://news.yahoo.com/news/sounding-boeings-starliner-may-completely-165211616.html
That's just embarrassing on so may levels. It should have never left the ground in the first place with the issues it had.
![Craft A Brew - Safale S-04 Dry Yeast - Fermentis - English Ale Dry Yeast - For English and American Ales and Hard Apple Ciders - Ingredients for Home Brewing - Beer Making Supplies - [1 Pack]](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41fVGNh6JfL._SL500_.jpg)
Maybe NASA isn't giving Boeing enough money.
If the Star liner doesn't come back to earth, how they going to know if it'll land successfully? Another procedure Boeing didn't fully test.
OP
OP
It'll return, but without crew onboard. If it doesn't make it, same outcome as scuttling in space somewhere. Failure with crew onboard is a MASSIVE PR issue that will end Boeing's manned space program. It might be done now anyway. God knows they have enough problems with aircraft inside our atmosphere.
It was a sarcastic comment. I'm sure Boeing wants to get the module back. All the testing they done back on earth as to why the thrusters weren't working correctly hasn't helped them solve the issues.
It's such a shame all the time and money invested in the program and to show for it they have two astronauts on a extended stay. I'm glad they made it there safely. I wonder what the two of them really think . . .
OP
OP
Yeah, about that Starliner return...
https://universemagazine.com/en/nasa-baffled-return-of-starliner-astronauts-remains-uncertain/
https://universemagazine.com/en/nasa-baffled-return-of-starliner-astronauts-remains-uncertain/
Well, it sounds better after reading that. Batteries were designed to last 45days, we'll just extend that and it'll be fine. Maybe Boeing and NASA can do that with all of the components.Yeah, about that Starliner return...
https://universemagazine.com/en/nasa-baffled-return-of-starliner-astronauts-remains-uncertain/
The more information that comes out the worse it looks.
Last edited:
OP
OP
Space is hard, and there is always a risk of failure and loss of life. When all systems are considered 100% and it happens, it's a tragedy. When there are multiple known problems and uncertainties, and the public is aware of them, failure with loss of life looks like negligence, especially considering there was another intact craft to return the astronauts.
OP
OP
Poor Boeing. I guess when they installed the software on this forlorn Starliner, Boeing managers felt there was no need for the "autonomous return to Earth" function (they have demonstrated this feature in the past on unmanned Starliner flights). Sooo, it can't do that right now. It will need a firmware update if crew comes back on SpaceX Dragon.
"... the current flight software on board Starliner cannot perform an automated undocking from the space station and entry into Earth’s atmosphere."
"... sources described the process to update the software on Starliner as "non-trivial" and "significant," and that it could take up to four weeks."
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/...the-launch-of-crew-9-due-to-starliner-issues/
"... the current flight software on board Starliner cannot perform an automated undocking from the space station and entry into Earth’s atmosphere."
"... sources described the process to update the software on Starliner as "non-trivial" and "significant," and that it could take up to four weeks."
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/...the-launch-of-crew-9-due-to-starliner-issues/
I like the paragraph towards the end about Boeing noting all the testing they have done since the launch. I'm sure there's lots of high fives and patting each on their backs over their successful testing.
Pitiful, not much more anyone can say.
OP
OP
It's landed autonomously before. Two Orbital Flight Tests (OFT) were conducted. The first one had software issues and could not dock with the ISS, but it did land successfully. The second one, in 2022, docked with the ISS, then the capsule returned to earth and landed successfully. Both of these were unmanned.
It would nice if they could get it back, landing back on earth safely but unmanned just in case.
The question is do these known issues appreciably increase the inherent risk.
I’d happily go up if they need some return ballast.
OP
OP
I think those two crew would be back on terra firma right now if there were no safety concerns.
Apparently NASA has postponed their crew replacement for the ISS due to this Starliner issue (SpaceX makes the round trip with the 4-person replacements). They might only fly 2 up there, making room for the 2 castaways on the return flight.
The Crew 9 space flight was going to be a six month stay, are they revising the return flight for the Star liner crew?
OP
OP
I don't know about Crew 9 stay, but Crew 8 might get a bonus month in space
If I was up there, I'd sure be looking to get back to a normal toilet.
For sure! I didn't give it much thought about those inconveniences. Being at camp with the woods or the outhouse is more appealing.I don't know about Crew 9 stay, but Crew 8 might get a bonus month in space
Starliner has officially crapped the sheets...
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/06/science/nasa-spacex-crew-9-delay-boeing-starliner/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/06/science/nasa-spacex-crew-9-delay-boeing-starliner/index.html
It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall in the room where they have these logistics conversations. There would be what really is going on, and later the decisions on what they say publicly.
If you're lucky enough to be in a cloud-free area in the wee hours the Perseids are coming to town...
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/11/science/perseids-meteor-shower-peak-august/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/11/science/perseids-meteor-shower-peak-august/index.html
Meanwhile, SpaceX is bringing the internets to Alaska...
Totally stuck the drone ship landing!
Totally stuck the drone ship landing!
Yea, it was a little to bright to watch that one. Sun was directly in the path.
Landings never get old, and I can't wait for the Starship to try it's first catch!
Landings never get old, and I can't wait for the Starship to try it's first catch!
My wife stayed up to watch that and as a bonus she got to see the Northern Lights, a double header! She was so happy, haven't seen the Northern Lights since living in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.
Northern Lights as seen from the ISS...
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/12/us/video/aurora-borealis-international-space-station-footage-digvid
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/12/us/video/aurora-borealis-international-space-station-footage-digvid
Man, what a cock-up Starliner turned out to be...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/theres-problem-rescuing-stranded-astronauts-222929214.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/theres-problem-rescuing-stranded-astronauts-222929214.html
- Joined
- Nov 26, 2013
- Messages
- 9,915
- Reaction score
- 24,067
I'm pretty sure I've seen this movie. At this point one of two things happens: (A) while wiling away the hours and having heartfelt tear jerking Zoom calls with loved ones on Earth, they gaze out the window and see the super cell global weather catastrophe approaching Europe; or, (2) the micrometeorioid impacts a closed off agronomic space station module, and the alien life form proceeds to wreak havoc.
Meanwhile over at Starbase, the last module #9 has been placed atop of the second launch tower. What an impressive build going on there and across the entire complex. Can't wait for ITF-5, coming soon!
OP
OP
Only midway through second act. Grab some popcorn. They still have to get the wounded bird back home, and also the two castaways. That's the hard part.
The more I read about Starliner and the two stranded, the skipper and Gilligan come to mind.
Where's the professor in all this?
Where's the professor in all this?
OP
OP
Right. By now, he would have rigged a coconut, some bamboo, and some flotsum from the lagoon into a return vessel. (of course, just before launch, Gilligan would press the wrong button and it would leave without the castaways. Oh, before it comes up, def MaryAnn.
That was the point of my post.
Who knew spacesuits were craft-specific, ffs?
And eff Starliner. Cut it loose and burn that beyotch to a crisp and let the ashes drown. Speaking of which - do you know they never really validated the whole NEW thermal reentry package (what used to be called the "heat shield" but is WAAY different now)? A whole 'nuther reason NOT to bring the two astronauts home on it...
OP
OP
I was just sitting out back admiring the VERY bright full moon. One of my kids, when they were young, said the moon is a mirror. This is how teachers make kids understand that that bright moon is not generating its own light - just reflecting it.
Anyway, I also wondered what it would take to blow the moon out of the sky, and what resulting effects would be. Actually a lot of content out there on the subject. Lots of youtube if you want the deep dive.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/starts...arth-would-change-if-our-moon-were-destroyed/
Anyway, I also wondered what it would take to blow the moon out of the sky, and what resulting effects would be. Actually a lot of content out there on the subject. Lots of youtube if you want the deep dive.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/starts...arth-would-change-if-our-moon-were-destroyed/
Last edited:
OP
OP
Blame NASA. They don't build ANY of this stuff - their only job is to coordinate the efforts of private biz. The late great Harry Browne was right: anything govt does, it botches.
True that, but NASA is doing a terrible job at coordinating this segment of the Starliner project. Boeing bears a lot of blame too, I'm sure our tax dollars won't be refunded from this mess.
