clasley said:Yeap, I'm full in. 20l ordered. Delivery in 3-4 weeks.
-Chris
Congrats!!
clasley said:Yeap, I'm full in. 20l ordered. Delivery in 3-4 weeks.
-Chris
Yeap, I'm full in. 20l ordered. Delivery in 3-4 weeks.
-Chris
Rico,
How high is your ceiling?
Not to go too far but...
...all this discussion surrounding this machine makes me antsy to start my Speidel Braumeister inspired build. Since I try and live by the 7P's (Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance), is there anything you guys would change about your Braumeisters if you could?
Bigger pumps? Different output options? Anything at all?
wyzazz said:I know I've seen them at Target, just not sure of the size...
clasley said:Is there enough room under the bottom plate of the malt pipe to fit a simple copper elbow into the pump out fitting similar to what you guys are doing with the dip tube? Wondering if this can be inserted at the beginning of a brew session to direct the pump outflow in more of a whirlpool fashion rather than straight up.
-Chris
hfk2 said:clasley, on the 20l system there is 1" of space under the bottom screen of the malt pipe. The outflow hole is just off center. This is an interesting observation. I'm assuming that you are trying to eliminate channeling. I'll look into this and let you know the results.
clasley said:If it works I'm thinking the benefits would be twofold - lessen the chances of channeling and creating a better whirlpool while chilling.
-Chris
Raising the malt pipe during the mash wouldn't help at all.
The malt pipe must be securely fixed to the floor of the boiler during the mash, this is achieved by screwing down the retaining bolt which ensures that the rubber seal on the base of the malt pipe makes good contact with the floor of the unit.
The Braumeister works by drawing in wort from the area outside of the malt pipe and then pumping it back up through the malt pipe (and the malt) so that it overflows back to the outside and so on. This constant recirculation ensures that the grains are washed with water/wort at the set temperature for the duration of the mash.
If you break the seal e.g. by lifting the malt pipe you will interrupt the flow through the malt pipe and grains, as the fluid will take the path of least resistance back to the pump inlet - which would not be not through the malt pipe.
Raising the malt pipe during the mash wouldn't help at all.
The malt pipe must be securely fixed to the floor of the boiler during the mash, this is achieved by screwing down the retaining bolt which ensures that the rubber seal on the base of the malt pipe makes good contact with the floor of the unit.
The Braumeister works by drawing in wort from the area outside of the malt pipe and then pumping it back up through the malt pipe (and the malt) so that it overflows back to the outside and so on. This constant recirculation ensures that the grains are washed with water/wort at the set temperature for the duration of the mash.
If you break the seal e.g. by lifting the malt pipe you will interrupt the flow through the malt pipe and grains, as the fluid will take the path of least resistance back to the pump inlet - which would not be not through the malt pipe.
It took me a while (and watching the Braumeister video, and the excellent one made by "Yambor44") to fully understand this. The grains are washed from below while in the process of mashing, and it's a very gentle, continuous process. I suspect channeling isn't an issue. OTOH, some Braumeister user (I think the fellow from Norway) reported that he can boost his efficiency incrementally by stopping the process and stirring the mash several times, which would be an indicator that perhaps channeling IS going on. To my way of thinking, though, unless such stirring really achieved dramatic results -which it doesn't appear to- it defeats one of the main virtues of the Braumeister, which is its ability to automatically combine all processes from heating the strike water through draining the chilled wort into the fermenter.
The 50L has 2 pumps vs the 20L that has only the one pump, I believe the pumps used on both of those are the same model, you just need more Umphhh to push through more grain.
The 200L version has a completely different plumbing setup under the vessel.
Inodoro Pereyra, sorry I misunderstood your question,
the lower filter is not fixed so it could easily raise up a bit.
I'm not sure if vortexing would help much during the mash, but it would certainly help during cooling with the pump on - I might give it a go, something to try at the weekend.
Not at all. I'm the one who didn't explain himself properly.
Perfect! Let us know how it goes...:rockin:
Another question: if you were to make the most obscenely big beer ever, what would your maximum grain volume be?
Or, to say it a (probably) simpler way: what would be the minimum malt pipe volume needed to insure you can brew anything you want with the 50L model?
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