Soy?

[bennerman]

This isn't a beer question, but it is a fermentation question. I actually intend to try making kvass next week, but yesterday I bought "defatted soy milk powder" to help get a little more protein in my diet.

It is quite terrible, but nutrition-wise it is pretty good. It has 53g of protein and about 35g of carbs per 100g, with only 1g of fat. What I would like to do is add yeast, and then let it ferment. The idea is that when the carbs turn into alcohol, I can harmlessly boil them off, thus hopefully reducing the total carb content. The nutrition information is as follows:

http://www.bulkbarn.ca/en-ca/product/drink-mixes/soy-milk-powder.html

I assume the sugars will convert to alcohol fine (if a little slowly), but what about the fiber?

Note that the alcohols don't have to be safe to consume, provided they can be safely boiled off. I have an electric stove an a high-powdered oven vent, so fire risk should be minimal.

Any info would be helpful

 

[bennerman]

I should specify that the only ingredient is "defatted soy flour", so I guess think of it as a nut/bean/legume powder, rather than a milk powder

 

[bennerman]

For those curious, it had rather quick brewing effect for a couple of hours, but then fizzled out. there's definitely alcohol in there, but the yeast action seems to have stopped. Any thoughts?

 

[hou_me]

How's it taste?

 

[bennerman]

How's it taste?

I assume like soy. the plan is to boil the alcohol off, and then bake it, scrape it off, and then grind it. Then I will weigh it. there is 100g of flour, plus 6.6g of yeast, so if it weighs less than 106.6g I know I'll have succeeded in some degree

 

[SmokeyMcBong]

seems like a lot of work to get rid of a few carbs. couldn't you just go for a walk or something?

 

[bennerman]

seems like a lot of work to get rid of a few carbs. couldn't you just go for a walk or something?

The problem is the terrible taste. The less I can use, the better

 

[Psylocide]

Yeah... really having a difficult time figuring out what you're trying to accomplish here.

Is protein powder not available to you or is there a reason you can't just use that? I mean, that's what you're actually looking for here.

I assume this is much less cost-prohibitive.

Assuming you are not trying to lose weight, the carbs are fine. Nutrition for weight-loss/gain is 100% calories-in, calories-out.

If you're doing some weird diet that cuts out certain food groups, then you're wasting your time and missing out on good foods. If you consume calories in excess of your BMR, you will gain weight... if you consume less than your BMR, then you'll lose weight. Simple.

If you're looking to balance out your macro-nutrients, start with whole foods. Supplement with protein if absolutely needed.

This sounds really complex for what is going to amount to a less efficient way of procuring protein powder.

 

[bennerman]

Yeah... really having a difficult time figuring out what you're trying to accomplish here.

Is protein powder not available to you or is there a reason you can't just use that? I mean, that's what you're actually looking for here.

I assume this is much less cost-prohibitive.

Assuming you are not trying to lose weight, the carbs are fine. Nutrition for weight-loss/gain is 100% calories-in, calories-out.

If you're doing some weird diet that cuts out certain food groups, then you're wasting your time and missing out on good foods. If you consume calories in excess of your BMR, you will gain weight... if you consume less than your BMR, then you'll lose weight. Simple.

If you're looking to balance out your macro-nutrients, start with whole foods. Supplement with protein if absolutely needed.

This sounds really complex for what is going to amount to a less efficient way of procuring protein powder.

The problem is, protein powder is 13-22$ a lb up here, whereas soy milk powder is 1.40 a lb

 

[Psylocide]

I thought that might be the case.

Well, if you would rather not get your protein from whole foods, then there are a few options to mask the flavor.

1. Make a shake... cocoa powder, banana, peanut butter (more protein/good fats), use soy milk in place of regular milk. Plenty of recipes out there.

2. Make some "overnight oats." Same idea, tons of recipes out there. Sub your soy milk for regular milk.

3. Put soy milk in your coffee for creamer.

Don't worry about the extra carbs, just figure them into your nutrition plan.

Really though, I would recommend just eating a chicken breast or two every day (same cost per lb or less, really) if you're looking for more protein. Eggs are a good source of good fat and protein, nuts (same thing), etc. etc.

 

[bennerman]

I thought that might be the case.

Well, if you would rather not get your protein from whole foods, then there are a few options to mask the flavor.

1. Make a shake... cocoa powder, banana, peanut butter (more protein/good fats), use soy milk in place of regular milk. Plenty of recipes out there.

2. Make some "overnight oats." Same idea, tons of recipes out there. Sub your soy milk for regular milk.

3. Put soy milk in your coffee for creamer.

Don't worry about the extra carbs, just figure them into your nutrition plan.

Really though, I would recommend just eating a chicken breast or two every day (same cost per lb or less, really) if you're looking for more protein. Eggs are a good source of good fat and protein, nuts (same thing), etc. etc.

I find I can tolerate the powder better after the first few days. The soy is already fermenting though, so I'm going to keep going out of scholarly curiousity and see what happens. It seems where I was storing it was just too cool to notice any fermentation. Setting it in a pot of lukewarm water made it speed up, it seems.

I'll let you guys know how it goes