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[lazarus0530]

Ok I popped open my beer tonight from my 5th batch . I waited 4 weeks for the bottles to condition I brewed another esb. I drank it at room temp. Just to try it. I'm not real pleased with the flavor. It's not sour just kinda blah.. The carbonation is there. So that's good. My question is...does fridge'n them enhance the flavor more?

 

[Sweetchuck]

I would suggest that cooling beer inhibits the flavor. Warm drinks/food tend to be absorbed by taste buds more effectively I'm guessing.

Which is probably why budmiller markets their beer "ice cold" - so you don't realize you're drinking camel piss.

 

[hough77]

I would suggest that cooling beer inhibits the flavor. Warm drinks/food tend to be absorbed by taste buds more effectively I'm guessing.

Which is probably why budmiller markets their beer "ice cold" - so you don't realize you're drinking camel piss.

I lol, camel piss!

 

[jwplessner]

Right, flavor comes out more at higher temps. Also, hot alcohols tend to come out more, mouthfeel changes, and all sorts of other things seem different. If your beer is hazy it might clear up a little. Not always bad, just different.

 

[lazarus0530]

I would suggest that cooling beer inhibits the flavor. Warm drinks/food tend to be absorbed by taste buds more effectively I'm guessing.

Which is probably why budmiller markets their beer "ice cold" - so you don't realize you're drinking camel piss.

Mmm camel piss!
Lmao
My beer is crazy clear! But it just seams to be missing something. There's not like a strong flavor. I brewed this the last time and it was a hit.
So your all sayn if I fridge my beer the taste will be even more blah. Then why fridge at all then ? If beer is better warm? I know some places in Europe drink warm beer.

 

[osagedr]

There was an article in the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry recently that (IIRC) concluded cold storage was the best way to age beer. I know that's not what you are talking about but your post made me think of it.

If you are not happy with the way your beer tastes, put it in the fridge and forget about it for awhile. One of my earliest brews was a brown ale kit that sucked. I couldn't give the stuff away fast enough. Gave my inlaws a dozen, they popped it in their spare fridge and forgot about it, I tried one after 8 months and it was fantastic! Ended up winning a gold medal in a beer competition with that one.

 

[lazarus0530]

There was an article in the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry recently that (IIRC) concluded cold storage was the best way to age beer. I know that's not what you are talking about but your post made me think of it.

If you are not happy with the way your beer tastes, put it in the fridge and forget about it for awhile. One of my earliest brews was a brown ale kit that sucked. I couldn't give the stuff away fast enough. Gave my inlaws a dozen, they popped it in their spare fridge and forgot about it, I tried one after 8 months and it was fantastic! Ended up winning a gold medal in a beer competition with that one.

No that's exactly what I wanted to hear. That if I fridge it it will enhance the flavor. and shoot I just ordered a brown ale.

 

[Homercidal]

Well, cooler temps does inhibit flavors, but chilling also increases the density of the CO2, so it might seem to have more fizz when it's cooler. Or at least feel a bit edgier.

4 weeks is not a lot of time, but then it should be enough to get close. An ESB is not the kind of beer that I'd drink at room temp though. Chill one and see what happens. If it's still not great, set them aside for a few more weeks and see what happens.

 

[lazarus0530]

Well, cooler temps does inhibit flavors, but chilling also increases the density of the CO2, so it might seem to have more fizz when it's cooler. Or at least feel a bit edgier.

4 weeks is not a lot of time, but then it should be enough to get close. An ESB is not the kind of beer that I'd drink at room temp though. Chill one and see what happens. If it's still not great, set them aside for a few more weeks and see what happens.

I'll give it a shot my last batch was glorious the same recipe and everything.

 

[PIGMAN]

There was an article in the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry recently that (IIRC) concluded cold storage was the best way to age beer. I know that's not what you are talking about but your post made me think of it.

If you are not happy with the way your beer tastes, put it in the fridge and forget about it for awhile. One of my earliest brews was a brown ale kit that sucked. I couldn't give the stuff away fast enough. Gave my inlaws a dozen, they popped it in their spare fridge and forgot about it, I tried one after 8 months and it was fantastic! Ended up winning a gold medal in a beer competition with that one.

I've been bottle conditioning a couple of batches for 4 - 5 weeks at room temp,(low 70's). Now room temp is approaching 80. Given the choice, is it better to keep aging at 80, or put them in the spare fridge? I knew this would rear it's ugly head as summer approached.

 

[codyjp]

I lol, camel piss!

Camels don't drink much water. I'd suspect it'd be much darker that Bud/Miller.

 

[Homercidal]

I've been bottle conditioning a couple of batches for 4 - 5 weeks at room temp,(low 70's). Now room temp is approaching 80. Given the choice, is it better to keep aging at 80, or put them in the spare fridge? I knew this would rear it's ugly head as summer approached.

It depends on how long you are going to keep them. At 80, if you are going to drink them fairly quick, I wouldn't bother trying to lower the temp.

I've heard, that every 10 degrees of temp above the optimum ages a beer twice as fast.

Once the primary fermentation and most of the secondary is done, it takes a long time for the bottle conditioning to really affect the beer. Now if your transfer method allowed oxygen into the beer or bottles, the warmer temps are not going to be good.

But all things considered equal, the few degrees difference between 70 and 80 is probably not going to hurt you if you drink your beer in a few weeks.

 

[unionrdr]

Also,I've found that the o2 absorbing caps help a lot during conditioning/storing at room temps. Flavors improve,rather than fade.

 

[motobrewer]

http://nfscfaculty.tamu.edu/talcott...nd Class Presentations/Review-Beer Ageing.pdf

 

[TheMan]

No that's exactly what I wanted to hear. That if I fridge it it will enhance the flavor. and shoot I just ordered a brown ale.

It wasn't necessarily the fridge that enhanced the flavor. It sat for 8 months. Time will allow a beer to mellow out some. I suspect that his beer was much better due to age more so than the fact that it was in the fridge.

 

[PIGMAN]

It depends on how long you are going to keep them. At 80, if you are going to drink them fairly quick, I wouldn't bother trying to lower the temp.

I've heard, that every 10 degrees of temp above the optimum ages a beer twice as fast.

Once the primary fermentation and most of the secondary is done, it takes a long time for the bottle conditioning to really affect the beer. Now if your transfer method allowed oxygen into the beer or bottles, the warmer temps are not going to be good.

But all things considered equal, the few degrees difference between 70 and 80 is probably not going to hurt you if you drink your beer in a few weeks.

Transfer was tight, but I doubt that I'm going to drink all of this beer in a few weeks. Maybe I should put the fridge on the highest setting, and transfer the oldest batches into it.

 

[PIGMAN]

Also,I've found that the o2 absorbing caps help a lot during conditioning/storing at room temps. Flavors improve,rather than fade.

Those caps sound good, but I use the 1L flip tops.

 

[unionrdr]

The o2 caps are amazing me with the difference they make. A bag of 144 of them was like $2.95 if I remember right. Was about a dollar or so more. But well worth it. Gotta get some more when pay day rolls around again. Not to mention,some more brewing ingredients,&,&,&...

 

[lazarus0530]

The o2 caps are amazing me with the difference they make. A bag of 144 of them was like $2.95 if I remember right. Was about a dollar or so more. But well worth it. Gotta get some more when pay day rolls around again. Not to mention,some more brewing ingredients,&,&,&...

This adds flavor?

 

[TwoGunz]

I've noticed some of my beers take a lot longer to clear (aka drop bright) than the standard 3-4 weeks. Before they're bright the flavor is very different and not nearly as good.

 

[unionrdr]

This adds flavor?

No,the o2 absorbing/blocking caps keep the developing flavors from oxidizing/fading slowly. The flavors brewed into the beer get better instead. Imo,I wound up with more of what I started with,rather than less. If that makes any sense.
It's like switching from a cast iron stock flywheel to an aluminum one. You don't get more power. Just using more of what you already have.

 

[lazarus0530]

No,the o2 absorbing/blocking caps keep the developing flavors from oxidizing/fading slowly. The flavors brewed into the beer get better instead. Imo,I wound up with more of what I started with,rather than less. If that makes any sense.
It's like switching from a cast iron stock flywheel to an aluminum one. You don't get more power. Just using more of what you already have.

That's sound kinda cool.