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Singletrack

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I had to explain dry hopping again today. Every time I explain what it is, I say, yeah, I know, it really should be called "cold hopping."

I think we can change the name. I think we should. I think it is our duty, and we must.

You may resist based on a sense of tradition. Tradition. That's why we have the stupid QWERTY keyboard, you know, because it makes people type SLOW enough that manual typewriters don't jam. And that's why we have U.S. customary units of measure. And that's why we have a calendar that can't easily be memorized from month to month and year to year. (Ask about my idea for an improved calendar, if interested... but I won't hold my breath.)

There is probably some ancient dude laughing his a$$ off that he got drunk and accidentally coined the term "dry hopping" by mistake, and now a bunch of sheep just keep saying it, as if it makes sense. Okay, maybe that dude is dead by now, but...

So tomorrow, I cold hop.
 
I think it will go something like this:


Phase 1: COLD hop? You mean DRY hop, dork. (Maybe this phase lasts 10 days... uh, years)


Phase 2: Cold hop huh. I've heard some of you geeks saying that. How is that different than dry hopping? (Maybe 5 years)


Phase 3: DRY hop? Dude, nobody calls it that anymore. It's COLD hop. What are you, 36 to 38 years old? (2 years)


Phase 4: Dry hop: A term once used by fools who, apparently, were confused, thinking maybe "dry" was the opposite of "hot." (See Arizona: "...but it's a dry heat.")


Phase 5: @JimRausch 's ancestors brag about Jim being one of the first to adopt the new term, forcing Palmer, Jamil, et al to revise all their books.


Note: Don't miss the opportunity to add your name to Phase 5. You owe it to your ancestors. After all, like me, you failed to buy IPO shares of FB. This is our chance.
 
Is it really Cold Hopping if the temperature of the beer while fermenting is in the 60's?

More like Not Quite Warm Hopping.

Excellent question! I have given that a lot of thought, of course. IMO "Not Quite Warm Hopping" just doesn't have the right ring to it. I also considered "warm hopping," but with the popularity of hop standing/whirlpool hopping, that seemed confusing. In comparison to the boil, the wort is cold during cold hopping, so I am proposing "cold" hopping. Also, some brewers cold hop in their serving kegs, which are cold. Also, due to global warming, the temperature of our fermentations and cold hopping will seem ever colder over time. (I'm in this for the long haul.)

I am not opposed to other suggestions for the new term, but I think we need to quickly build consensus on this important issue so we can begin to productively change the lexicon. Lexicon? Is that a word? If not, let's make it one.

So, CJ-3, are you in?
 
I've thought about this a lot myself actually, but habits are hard to break! You just get so used to something.........

Of coarse I've had a 6 pack, normally would do better I think.

Screw it I"m gonna say "cold hopping" for the next week just because. It's going to be one of those prhases that I just make up excuses to say.

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Call it "Green Hopping" and the EPA will mandate it. NPR will make "Dry Hoppers" an insult. Billions of federal dollars will be spent to remove the term "dry hop" from literature and history, because of it's racist history. Villains in comic books and movies will be seen dry hopping. Meanwhile, secret clubs will meet to perform the arcane rite of dry hopping, claiming it gives them visions and mystical powers.
I'm starting the counter-revolution right now.
 
Screw it I"m gonna say "cold hopping" for the next week just because. It's going to be one of those prhases that I just make up excuses to say.



Impressive typing skills. Probably the same brain-to-fingers connection that makes a good guitar player. At my peak, I hit 36 wpm. I believe that is tied with the fastest rate ever recorded by a chicken pecking at random on a keyboard sprinkled with spent grains. I have to blame something for my slow typing, so I blame the QWERTY keyboard.



(I've been working on the message above since last night. Now, must rest. Later, cold hopping.)
 
Impressive typing skills. Probably the same brain-to-fingers connection that makes a good guitar player. At my peak, I hit 36 wpm. I believe that is tied with the fastest rate ever recorded by a chicken pecking at random on a keyboard made of spent grains. I have to blame something for my slow typing, so I blame the QWERTY keyboard.



(I've been working on the message above since last night. Now, must rest. Later, cold hopping.)

It's funny because drinking and playing the guitar makes me WAY better, especially if the people listening are drinking too. Drinking and typing doesn't seem to work that way though. One of the beers I was drinking last night was actually cold hopped. Geez, if they hadn't of arranged the keyboard is such a screwy way maybe I could type better while drinking cold hopped beer?
 
[QUOTE
Phase 5: @JimRausch 's ancestors brag about Jim being one of the first to adopt the new term, forcing Palmer, Jamil, et al to revise all their books.


Note: Don't miss the opportunity to add your name to Phase 5. You owe it to your ancestors. After all, like me, you failed to buy IPO shares of FB. This is our chance.[/QUOTE]

So, is the check in the mail?:D:mug:
 
[QUOTE So, is the check in the mail?:D:mug:

Come on Jim, we discussed this. I agreed to pay you with a "Like" every time I see you submit a post containing the words "cold hopping," "cold hopped," "cold hops," etc. I haven't seen you using these terms anywhere except this thread, which I "Liked," per our agreement. Now get out there and change the world, one "cold hopped" post at a time.

As you know, the big payoff comes when we see more than half of all HBTers using the correct terminology.

We can do this!
 
In german it is actually called Kalthopfung (translated to english: cold hopping). The term DRY hopping never made sense to me as a german homebrewer. So I'm on your side ;-)
 
Tepid hopping


Technically sound suggestion! Thanks. However, IMO, tepid is an ugly word. Not sure why. Reminds me of flaccid. Not the image I want to portray with my IPA.

For some reason, tepid seems like a tough sell, and we are on a timeline here. Need to get past the "dork" phase in only 10 years.
 
How about "Secondary Hop Infusion" kinda has zing to it.

Thank you Crazyeyes! I really like the word "infusion" for this. The "secondary" part seems problematic, since 1) Everyone loves to hate on "secondary" these days, and 2) I have no idea what I thought I was going to (slowly) type here, because I was distracted by "others."

And that reminds me... I was driving to the mountains several years ago, and I was behind this car that had a bumper sticker that said "Others." I thought that was clever. Then, a couple weeks later, I made the same drive, and I got behind the same car with the bumper sticker that said "Others." I had to chuckle at that. Then, a couple days later, I was driving in town, and I saw that same car with the bumper sticker that said "Others" parked on the street. But that's not the weird part. I have made that same drive to the mountains, and that same drive in town, figuratively, a thousand times since then, and NEVER seen that car again. Weird, huh?

...but I digress. Holy cow, what have I been drinking anyway? Time to cut to the chase: Secondary Hop Infusion has a lot of merit, but 8 syllables is more zing than most can handle for something we say at least 10 times a day. And it takes me a full minute to type it. Appreciate the suggestion, but I think we should all rally behind "cold hop," "cold hopped," "cold hopping" unless something better comes along. (Only took me a minute to type that entire last sentence.)

Still, how about "cold hop infusion" once in a while, just to spice it up. That works!
 
Call it "Green Hopping" and the EPA will mandate it. NPR will make "Dry Hoppers" an insult. Billions of federal dollars will be spent to remove the term "dry hop" from literature and history, because of it's racist history. Villains in comic books and movies will be seen dry hopping. Meanwhile, secret clubs will meet to perform the arcane rite of dry hopping, claiming it gives them visions and mystical powers.
I'm starting the counter-revolution right now.

JohnSand, I am humbled by your work here, and I apologize for not recognizing it properly sooner. Sheer, cold hopped poetry.

I will repeat an excerpt for the benefit of the community: "...remove the term "dry hop" from literature and history, because of it's racist history. Villains in comic books and movies will be seen dry hopping."

Just let that soak in a minute, dry hoppers. We're looking at you, Fedora. :) It's time for a change.
 
It's true that dry hopping is a misnomer but cold hopping is equally so. We cool hop, warm hop, and room temp hop but cold hopping just doesn't work. The hop oils won't disperse properly in cold beer. That's why even when we keg hop we leave the hops in at warmer temps for a couple days before chilling the keg.

To convince me you'll have to come up with a term that is a better descriptor of the technique that rolls off the tongue as easily or easier than dry hop. Cold hopping ain't it.
 
I say we just call it "hopping" and change boil kettle additions to "wort hopping" or "hot hopping" or whatever.
 
JohnSand, I am humbled by your work here, and I apologize for not recognizing it properly sooner. Sheer, cold hopped poetry.

I will repeat an excerpt for the benefit of the community: "...remove the term "dry hop" from literature and history, because of it's racist history. Villains in comic books and movies will be seen dry hopping."

Just let that soak in a minute, dry hoppers. We're looking at you, Fedora. :) It's time for a change.

:D:D:D:ban::mug:
 
Or fermentation hopping

Are you all just going to ignore this? I thought it was brilliant but I would call it fermenter hopping/ed, to reduce the syllables.

Ambient hopped is a misnomer if you are brewing a lager which is likely below the ambient temperature, or an ale in your garage in winter which is likely being heated above ambient temperature.

I like cold hop but I also keg hop which I think would be a more appropriate use of the term cold hop. So if I give someone a bottle of beer and say I cold hopped it, obviously this didn't occur unless it was bottled from a tap.

Thoughts?
 

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