single serve nitro infuser

[fluketamer]

this thing looks neat :
https://nitrobrew.com/product/single-serve/

 

[Whisky River]

That is a neat idea but wow $$$$. I wonder if you could do the same thing in a PET bottle with a carb cap?

 

[Bobby_M]

The nitro pour experience is 99% based on forcing the beer through the restrictor plate in the faucet spout under high pressure. I suspect it could work by just cranking the co2 pressure to 30psi for the pour.

 

[day_trippr]

Even if that "worked" one would immediately have to relieve the "over-pressure" condition inside the keg with the resulting waste of CO2 - which increases with the ever emptying keg.

Probably why that's not a thing...

Cheers!

 

[Bobby_M]

Well, the way I see it working out is jumping the beer into a smaller container like a 1 gallon oxebar keg and doing your high pressure dispensing out of that. Even if I was crazy enough to use an air compressor to achieve the high pressure, the short life span of the beer would necessitate a smaller serving increment anyway.

If you're the type of beer drinker that treats an occasional nitro pour as a little treat but don't want to shell out for a dedicated tank of beermix and regulator, it could work.

 

[DuncB]

I have their micronitrobrew server, in the long run it will be cheaper than beer gas for me here in NZ.
It works well.

 

[ITV]

I have their micronitrobrew server, in the long run it will be cheaper than beer gas for me here in NZ.
It works well.

This has certainly peaked my interest as I am in the process of looking to add a nitro tap to my existing keezer.
Unfortunately their youtube video's do not provide the technical details of the various product offerings and the lame music does not help.

From what I can tell, the micronitro (without pneumatic pump) is maybe what I need.

Does it work with just CO2, can you adjust the "nitrogen mix" for pouring coffee vs a stout?

More research is required on my part.

Edit - after a little more research I will need a bottle of pure Nitrogren along with the infuser. I will need to contact NitroBrew to see if their product provides a means to control the mix. At least the competition offers a "mix adjustment".

 

[Broken Crow]

This has certainly peaked my interest as I am in the process of looking to add a nitro tap to my existing keezer.
Unfortunately their youtube video's do not provide the technical details of the various product offerings and the lame music does not help.

From what I can tell, the micronitro (without pneumatic pump) is maybe what I need.

Does it work with just CO2, can you adjust the "nitrogen mix" for pouring coffee vs a stout?

More research is required on my part.

Edit - after a little more research I will need a bottle of pure Nitrogren along with the infuser. I will need to contact NitroBrew to see if their product provides a means to control the mix. At least the competition offers a "mix adjustment".

It's nothing like a nitro tap and can't be connected to one, it's and "Assumption Dispenser".... It assumes you don't mind oxidizing your beer serving one at a time. From the FAQ on the product page:

8. Where is the Nitrogen coming from to infuse the beverage in the kettle?


From the Nitrogen cylinder hooked up to the charger or the air compressor. The air we breathe is 78% nitrogen!


9. Doesn’t the oxygen from air make the beer go stale?


Oxygen in beer is bad, but only if you let it sit around. With NitroBrew, the intent is to enjoy the beer right after NitroBrewing or within a short time. In any case, using air with NitroBrew is no different than pouring beer in a glass in ambient air.

All it does is compress air to 40psi in a cup with your drink that you shake to mix....dunno about you, but I've noticed (more with some brews than others) that oxidation happens pretty fast... I certainly wouldn't want a hoppy beer served with this thing.
..just my 2-cents.

EDIT: Sorry; I was just looking at the 'single-serve' though the whole deal seems to hinge on using compressed air from an oil-free air compressor, I hadn't noticed there is an 'option' to use a whole nitro tank setup, at which point; why bother ith this thing at all? My bad on not noticing the tap setups. Without a nitro tank and if you wanna oxidize you beer, you might as well just get an oil-less air compresser and cobble your own bits together.

 

[ITV]

It's nothing like a nitro tap and can't be connected to one, it's and "Assumption Dispenser".... It assumes you don't mind oxidizing your beer serving one at a time. From the FAQ on the product page:

8. Where is the Nitrogen coming from to infuse the beverage in the kettle?


From the Nitrogen cylinder hooked up to the charger or the air compressor. The air we breathe is 78% nitrogen!


9. Doesn’t the oxygen from air make the beer go stale?


Oxygen in beer is bad, but only if you let it sit around. With NitroBrew, the intent is to enjoy the beer right after NitroBrewing or within a short time. In any case, using air with NitroBrew is no different than pouring beer in a glass in ambient air.

All it does is compress air to 40psi in a cup with your drink that you shake to mix....dunno about you, but I've noticed (more with some brews than others) that oxidation happens pretty fast... I certainly wouldn't want a hoppy beer served with this thing.
..just my 2-cents.

EDIT: Sorry; I was just looking at the 'single-serve' though the whole deal seems to hinge on using compressed air from an oil-free air compressor, I hadn't noticed there is an 'option' to use a whole nitro tank setup, at which point; why bother ith this thing at all? My bad on not noticing the tap setups. Without a nitro tank and if you wanna oxidize you beer, you might as well just get an oil-less air compresser and cobble your own bits together.

It is confusing as they are offering multiple different systems with different options.

I am considering the Micro Nitro - Inline Nitrogen Infuser Link which is offered with and without a pneumatic pump.

As far as I can tell the pneumatic pump option will "eliminate" the Nitrogen cylinder (but at a reduced %N).
I am leaning toward the option to provide a separate nitrogen cylinder.

Micro Nitro product is similar to This but at a lower cost but has not been around very long.

 

[Bobby_M]

It is confusing as they are offering multiple different systems with different options.

I am considering the Micro Nitro - Inline Nitrogen Infuser Link which is offered with and without a pneumatic pump.

As far as I can tell the pneumatic pump option will "eliminate" the Nitrogen cylinder (but at a reduced %N).
I am leaning toward the option to provide a separate nitrogen cylinder.

Micro Nitro product is similar to This but at a lower cost but has not been around very long.

If you're willing to acquire a nitrogen tank, you've already spent the big amount. Add a nitro regulator and Intertap faucet with the stout spout and you have a fully functioning nitro pour system without any gimmicks.

 

[DuncB]

If you're willing to acquire a nitrogen tank, you've already spent the big amount. Add a nitro regulator and Intertap faucet with the stout spout and you have a fully functioning nitro pour system without any gimmicks.

Agreed if beer gas is reasonable get a cylinder and set up with a stout faucet and a nitro regulator like the 99.99999 % of other nitro stout installs.

My percentage is a guess!

 

[ITV]

If you're willing to acquire a nitrogen tank, you've already spent the big amount. Add a nitro regulator and Intertap faucet with the stout spout and you have a fully functioning nitro pour system without any gimmicks.

As usual Bobby I appreciate your non-biased advice.

My intent was to use a tank of nitrogen to serve both stouts and cold brew coffee as opposed to buying a tank of beer gas and another tank of nitrogen.

Running the numbers, I am now realizing that there is no cost savings in going with a nitro infuser unless I can get a great deal on a used one.

My initial impression to infuse the nitrogen at the tail end looked like a "clean" way of pouring a stout, but certainly not with a pneumatic pump.

 

[DuncB]

THe pneumatic pump doesn't contact the beer, you could run that on a compressor, CO2 or Nitrogen.

 

[ITV]

THe pneumatic pump doesn't contact the beer, you could run that on a compressor, CO2 or Nitrogen.

By clean I am referring to pure nitrogen.

I am having a hard time understanding how this device works, especially if it can operate off of CO2.
Their videos do not go into any technical details.

Would you care to share how your setup is configured?

 

[Broken Crow]

By clean I am referring to pure nitrogen.

I am having a hard time understanding how this device works, especially if it can operate off of CO2.
Their videos do not go into any technical details.

Would you care to share how your setup is configured?

Sorry for my incoherent response above....The marketing reads: Snake Oil as it's not actually a nitrogen system, but merely includes the option of using pure nitrogen... Bad marketing makes me rant and I've been poor with words lately. The base product line is nothing more than a compressed air through a diffuser at a slightly higher pressure than a proper nitro setup because; "air is 78% nitrogen (so lets just squeeze it all in there, don't mind the 21% oxygen)"
Since you'd like to do both pure nitro coffee and beer-gas stout, you're in the same boat a number of threads on here have been in: The quest for an economical gas-blender. There is no 'cheap' solution, but if you don't mind a one-time expense to set up a dual coffee/stout line to your keezer with a pure nitrogen tank and regulator alongside your CO2, there is this respectable unit from Micro Matic:
https://www.micromatic.com/en-us/pr...nd-60-40-lager-stout/p-Qh3wXVTkdEaO4eZ3uzXZLw
$1400, but that's cheaper than welding gas mixers and should get you what you want.

 

[Willy]

The initial cost of going Nitro (beer gas) does seem like a big jump. (Like $350+ for the tank, regulator and faucet, misc - yikes) ....

BUT.... Once you got it all set up and dialed in, it is nothing short of awesome. Honestly ... Feels like the best beer money I ever spent. Friends are impressed but who cares. The stouts you make for it take in a whole new excitement in home brewing.
Worth every penny.

 

[ITV]

Sorry for my incoherent response above....The marketing reads: Snake Oil as it's not actually a nitrogen system, but merely includes the option of using pure nitrogen... Bad marketing makes me rant and I've been poor with words lately. The base product line is nothing more than a compressed air through a diffuser at a slightly higher pressure than a proper nitro setup because; "air is 78% nitrogen (so lets just squeeze it all in there, don't mind the 21% oxygen)"
Since you'd like to do both pure nitro coffee and beer-gas stout, you're in the same boat a number of threads on here have been in: The quest for an economical gas-blender. There is no 'cheap' solution, but if you don't mind a one-time expense to set up a dual coffee/stout line to your keezer with a pure nitrogen tank and regulator alongside your CO2, there is this respectable unit from Micro Matic:
https://www.micromatic.com/en-us/pr...nd-60-40-lager-stout/p-Qh3wXVTkdEaO4eZ3uzXZLw
$1400, but that's cheaper than welding gas mixers and should get you what you want.

During my research the Micro Matic gas blenders are a contender since there is no snake oil to them.

If I can get a used one for a decent price I most likely will go that route to eliminate a beer gas cylinder. There was one on FB marketplace a few months back that I let slip away mainly due to not being ready to commit to a stout tap.

After covid, the prices for beer gas & nitrogen really shot up from my local Airgas supplier. Most likely CO2 shot up as well but I use 20# cylinders and havn't had to refill one in a while.

 

[fluketamer]

i agree with willy. its worth it .

70 for nitro /co2 tank at gas cylinder source.com with shipping
50 for regulator at kegco with lines and shipping
50 for tap at amazon with shipping
30 for local fill up (this is the hardest part- imo)


< 200$

its def worth it.

 

[Willy]

i agree with willy. its worth it .

70 for nitro /co2 tank at gas cylinder source.com with shipping
50 for regulator at kegco with lines and shipping
50 for tap at amazon with shipping
30 for local fill up (this is the hardest part- imo)


< 200$

its def worth it.

Yup. Ask anyone who pulled the trigger. Beer gas/regulator/stout faucet is just plain wonderful. Beyond words. Yes!!!!

 

[Bobby_M]

As usual Bobby I appreciate your non-biased advice.

My intent was to use a tank of nitrogen to serve both stouts and cold brew coffee as opposed to buying a tank of beer gas and another tank of nitrogen.

Running the numbers, I am now realizing that there is no cost savings in going with a nitro infuser unless I can get a great deal on a used one.

My initial impression to infuse the nitrogen at the tail end looked like a "clean" way of pouring a stout, but certainly not with a pneumatic pump.

One way to approach it is to use a small 1 gallon keg (Oxebar for example) for nitro pours that you transfer from your larger 5 gallon keg. Move 1 gallon of moderately carbonated beer, then serve it on pure nitrogen. You'll consume the 1 gallon fast enough that it doesn't go flat.

 

[fluketamer]

One way to approach it is to use a small 1 gallon keg (Oxebar for example) for nitro pours that you transfer from your larger 5 gallon keg. Move 1 gallon of moderately carbonated beer, then serve it on pure nitrogen. You'll consume the 1 gallon fast enough that it doesn't go flat.

or use carb caps and tee pieces on a pop bottle like this:

 

[smcinco]

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