Simcoe/Centennial Blend any thoughts?

[phished880]

I'm gonna be brewing an APA this weekend and was thinking about this combo. I think it would be an excellent combo but wondering if anyone has tried it before, and if you like it.
thanks
J

 

[FishinDave07]

I've never used both in the same beer, but i did brew a simcoe/cascade which is similar. Its citrusy grape fruit goodness. Go for it!

 

[Lando]

Go for it! I used both in an IPA. Turned out great.

 

[Aubie Stout]

I've used both. One of my favorite combo's. Use the simcoe early and the centennial late. Grapefruity goodness.......

 

[oswegan]

I'm gonna be brewing an APA this weekend and was thinking about this combo. I think it would be an excellent combo but wondering if anyone has tried it before, and if you like it.
thanks
J

Love it, love it, love it - use it all the time. Save some simcoe for dry hopping.

 

[phished880]

thanks all

 

[humann_brewing]

This combination is the main aroma hops in Pliny the Elder. That is a da$n good beer so I would say yeah it is good.

 

[jsullivan02130]

Rock on JP brewers! I think there are more of us than we know.

 

[bike2brew]

Wanting to bump this thread into this decade to get current ideas on a hopping schedule and percentages for this combination in a 5 gallon brew, 70/30 (60/40, 50/50) @ 60 min, etc. Maybe dry hop Mosaic? Looking to keep IBUs 45to 65. Thoughts, commercial examples??

 

[tracer bullet]

I've done Centennial, Cascade and Simcoe a few times. I prefer the percentages being something like 40/40/20 in that same order, a little lighter on the Simcoe. I was adding them all late and dry, with Centennial alone for bittering. Overall I liked it, enough to do it a few times. Earlier versions had all 3 at the same ratios and I liked it better with the Simcoe cut back.

I did Centennial, Cascade and Mosaic once as well, but didn't like the combo as much as I thought I would. It was sort of a classic / new hop combo that sounded great but I decided I'd sort of stick with one or the other. My notes for the next time are to do it with a combo of mostly Centennial and a little Cascade, but I know I might accidentally make basically a Bells Two Hearted.

 

[bike2brew]

Thanks I have used the classic Centennial Cascade combo previously looking toward a 2-hearted clone. Wanting something a bit brighter. I used Simcoe once in an earlier extract brew when I didn't know what I was doing.

 

[tracer bullet]

I'd be interested if others have recommendations. I like Simcoe, and use it, just not my favorite. That is of course my opinion and you know what they say about those.

It might be a little bit universal where people agree what hops do and don't work together (i.e. adding Mosaic to Simcoe / Centennial, for me, though I love it in other combos)? Certainly opinions would vary on how much Simcoe to use. Just a guess.

I'd been considering a try with Amarillo, or even Azacca.

 

[scrap iron]

Amarillo goes well with Centennial. I'm drinking a new WC style IPA with Pils as the base malt. I used some Target left over from a Bitter as FWH and Centennial, Amarillo and Pacifica at 20, 10 and KO. I'm not a fan of the pine flavor in hops so I tried the Pacifica and it adds a little spice and some citrus, orange maybe. The taste is bright and refreshing, I like it.
Last year I made another NWC IPA the same as above but with Sterling hops and it was good too adding a little spice to the citrus.

 

[day_trippr]

Simcoe and/or Mosaic can easily dominate Centennial - and even Amarillo. It can be done but it'd be tricky to balance their characters...

Cheers!

 

[bike2brew]

One of my 1st beer recipe efforts was like that where I over hopped with Simocoe, Centennial, and a couple others. I have since become more attuned to calculating IBUs and sensory profiles. I'm thinking Centennial as my primary bittering hop with the combos @ 45, 15, and hopstand. Not sure on percentage at this point. Open to suggestions.

 

[AmarikinBrew]

In my experience, Centennial when added @0min flameout, accentuates any hops that come before it.
Excluding dry hopping of course...

 

[AmarikinBrew]

Also, I tend to get harshness from Simcoe added at the beginning of the boil as bittering.
I would suggest the Centennial as bittering and flavor with the Simcoe.
But then again, I like skunk cabbage too.....

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

I added Simcoe to my mosaic citra pale ale and it completely changed the flavor, not in a bad way just different so it is a dominant hop

 

[Broothru]

Simcoe and/or Mosaic can easily dominate Centennial - and even Amarillo. It can be done but it'd be tricky to balance their characters...

Cheers!

My last beer was an American IPA, 5.6% ABV and 65 IBUs. Bittered with Centennial, Simcoe at :15 and :05, with Citra hop hash in a :20 minute whirlpool. It is amazing. And IT’S NOT HAZY!!!!

Did I mention I don’t much care for hazies? Yeah, I thought I did.

 

[day_trippr]

Was there any hint of Centennial left? Most 60 minute additions lose nearly all character..

Cheers!

 

[Broothru]

Was there any hint of Centennial left? Most 60 minute additions lose nearly all character..

Cheers!

Actually it was 75 minute boil, but was as a First Wort hopping addition. Almost all my brews follow the pattern of: 15 minute mash out @ 77C, add FWH, begin heating to 100C (takes about 12~15 minutes on my electric AIO system) and then boil for 75 minutes. Ales as well as lagers.

My mash out temperature of 77C is very close to my whirlpool temperature of 70C. I find that FWH somehow seems to ‘lock in’ flavor, aroma and a smooth bitterness. The comparison wheel of the three hops I used (Centennial, Simcoe and Citra) indicates that they are reinforcing each other with grapefruit and pine, so the overlap could be what I’m picking up.

But the Centennial was pretty high AA%, so I want to believe it was adding a large measure to the flavor and aroma profile. That said, I used it for its bittering potential (all 3 are listed as dual purpose hops) and it certainly succeeded. The calculated value was 65 IBU. I suspect a lab analysis would show higher. But it sure lights my fire. We’ll see what the judges think in a few weeks.