Sierra Nevada Pale Ale clone

[Bigdaddyale]

Just sampled and have to say.....NAILED IT! Now I did build up a water profile with ro water nailing the John Palmer recommended RA and such. I can post that if y'all want but 7 days in this puppy is cold crashing. Ended up getting down to 1.010 fg. Yeast is done cleaning up so down to 30f it goes till Friday (bottling day)

please post the water profile

 

[rtstrider]

please post the water profile

Here's what I used that netted an ra of -5. Mind you I only used RO water

6.5 grams Gypsum
1 grams Epsom Salt
1 grams Calcium Chloride
3.5 grams Chalk

RA -5

Will be running this by a bjcp judge or two when it's carb'd up to get their take. I'm extremely picky on my brewed though and can tell you this is it!

 

[CascadesBrewer]

3.5 grams Chalk

This addition seems a bit odd. I don't use RO. I plugged your grain bill into Bru'n Water with RO water. Without the Chalk it predicts a pretty reasonable pH of 5.44. With the Chalk addition it pushes the pH too high, up to 5.98. Do you measure the pH of your beers?

I am not positive which Palmer profile you were aiming for, but I would think you would want more Sulfate than your additions (I calc 140). I feel like SN Pale is high in Chloride as well based based on tasting it.

 

[rtstrider]

This addition seems a bit odd. I don't use RO. I plugged your grain bill into Bru'n Water with RO water. Without the Chalk it predicts a pretty reasonable pH of 5.44. With the Chalk addition it pushes the pH too high, up to 5.98. Do you measure the pH of your beers?

I am not positive which Palmer profile you were aiming for, but I would think you would want more Sulfate than your additions (I calc 140). I feel like SN Pale is high in Chloride as well based based on tasting it.

No I do not measure pH. Probably should but the chalk was used to level out the caco2 ratio in brewers friend water calculator. If said the mash ph was fine and I don't add the mineral additions until the boil. I mash with grains/water only

 

[Bigdaddyale]

What is the water profile for SNPA?

 

[CascadesBrewer]

What is the water profile for SNPA?

Some prior info in this thread...

Here's some SNPA info, if looking to emulate their water chem; mash and kettle addition targets are around 100 ppm Ca, 175-240 ppm S04, 40 ppm Cl. Mash pH 5.30. Base brewing water is around 40 ALK, acidified to 5.35 pH, -6 RA. They only use CaCl2 and CaS04.

That is pretty close. I would up the Ca a bit, I can't say how much.

Personally, I am not quite sure what impact Calcium has on the taste of a beer. Maybe I am wrong thinking that SNPA has a fairly high amount of Chloride.

 

[rtstrider]

Some prior info in this thread...





Personally, I am not quite sure what impact Calcium has on the taste of a beer. Maybe I am wrong thinking that SNPA has a fairly high amount of Chloride.

To be honest I'm not extremely well versed on water profiles as far as what does what and why use what ratio. I tried reading the bruin water spread sheet/info site and found it rather boring/lost interest very quickly. I mean that is pretty in depth on water profiles and more in depth than I ever personally care to go. Reason is we fuss over water profiles so much on the home brew/small batch scale and all of the microbreweries, and distillery, in my area do not dork with the water profiles period. They live by if the water is good to drink then it's good to brew with. The main concern in my neck of the woods is chloramines and they (the brewery I'm very well versed with in the area that has won multiple championships including the Florida Beer Championship) dissipate that via heating the water up in the mash tun to 170F and let it sit 24 hours. The only reason I even dork with water profiles is because straight up RO water is used due to chloramines. Luckily in my area we have what is considered a soft water profile per the brewers and the only concern here is chloramines. I'll be running an uncarbed sample to the head brewers/BJCP judge Friday morning to get their take and then will bring a carb'd sample at a later date. I'll make sure to keep everyone in the loop!

 

[rtstrider]

I will be unable to make it out to the brewery for a few weeks due to a last minute family emergency. I have already spoken with the brewers and should be able to make it out there by the end of the month. Good news is we will be able to make a better judgement on this as the bottles SHOULD be carb'd by then. Anywho I'll make sure to keep everyone in the loop!

 

[Nubiwan]

If you look at SN's website, they moved to all Cascade:

Whole Cone Hops
Cascade 0.5 oz. 90 minutes
Cascade 0.75 oz. 60 minutes
Cascade 2 oz. 30 minutes
Cascade 2 oz. 0 minutes

Anybody brew both versions? The one with Magnum and Perle vs cascade?
If so any thoughts?

I was looking at this. If you plug that hop bill into he brewers friend recipe you get a whopping 58 IBU. Surely that is not correct. Could someone check. AA on the Brewers friend list states 7 for Cascade.