Should I secondary this Irish Car Bomb, or flavor at bottling?

[Mechphisto]

So I put together this recipe (my very first non-pre-made kit!!), and what sources I was looking at, there's a flavoring in the secondary stage.

But I decided to use vanilla extract instead of beans, and oak essence instead of whiskey soaked oak (as I'm hoping to bottle before March 15th!). So, I'm looking at this now and wondering if doing a secondary is even necessary, or if I can just add the flavor items to the bottling bucket and then just leave it sitting in bottles for 3 weeks?

Here's my recipe; I'm thinking if any reason why I might still want to secondary, it might be so that the chocolate nibs do affect the priming as much?

10.24 oz Caramel Malt - Crystal 80L (Great Western)
8.4 oz Black Patent Malt
4.1 oz British Roasted Barley
4.1 oz British Malted Oats
3.3 lbs Dark Liquid Malt Extract (LME)
1 oz Northern Brewer
1 oz Fuggles (4.50%)
3.3 lbs Dark Liquid Malt Extract (LME)
1 lbs Lactose
.5 lbs Corn Sugar (glucose)
1 pkg ClarityFerm
1 pkg Safale US-05

SECONDARY (2 weeks)
2 oz Pure Vanilla Extract
2 oz Liquid Oak Essence
1.5 oz "Cocoa Nibs"

BOTTLING (1 - 1.5 weeks)
4 oz Corn sugar (measure by weight, not volume)
3 cup Jameson Whiskey

 

[rponcejr]

I don't transport to a secondary because that is another way to get bacteria and it's already way easy to get infection. You could add it now or flavor half at bottling wait and see how that turns out and add more if need be but gives you more options.

 

[rponcejr]

Love the concept though may have to try that recipe let me know how it turns out

 

[Transamguy77]

Your going to need more fermentables than 3.3 lbs especially with that amount of unfermentables.

I would soak the Jameson in oak chips and vanilla beans and add it to the beer after 7-10 days and then let that sit for another week or so then bottle.

 

[Mechphisto]

Transamguy77, I copy and pasted the first two columns of my recipe which is broken up by steps... I have 6.6 lbs of LME broken into two steps of 3.3. One at the beginning of the boil and one toward the end.

 

[Transamguy77]

Transamguy77, I copy and pasted the first two columns of my recipe which is broken up by steps... I have 6.6 lbs of LME broken into two steps of 3.3. One at the beginning of the boil and one toward the end.

I totally missed that, sorry. Ok that looks much better.

 

[r4dyce]

If using flavoring extracts you might want to add those right at bottling time. Compounds in extracts dissipate super quickly, it's why it's often the last ingredient you want to add in baking. I'm just guessing but I would imagine the flavor compounds would be changed or weakened in some way as the beer matures in a secondary. I've been working on a beer with coconut extract. Don't have it exactly right yet but adding extract at bottling time, even directly to the bottle, has been the best outcome so far.

 

[Mechphisto]

After all the reading I've done, I decided yeah, an actual seconday was more risk than reward. What I ended up doing is this...

While the brew is in the primary for exactly 3 weeks, during week 2, in a separate mason jar, put together:
1.5 cups Jameson
1.5 oz lightly roasted cocoa nibs
1.0 oz vanilla extract (though based on r4dyce's reply, I suppose I should have waited on that)

Then, during week 3, add to the jar:
1.5 oz Oak Chips (French, light)

Then strain and pour into the bottling bucket at the end of week 3, with the priming sugar, add the brew...

I hope this works

 

[Transamguy77]

After all the reading I've done, I decided yeah, an actual seconday was more risk than reward. What I ended up doing is this...

While the brew is in the primary for exactly 3 weeks, during week 2, in a separate mason jar, put together:
1.5 cups Jameson
1.5 oz lightly roasted cocoa nibs
1.0 oz vanilla extract (though based on r4dyce's reply, I suppose I should have waited on that)

Then, during week 3, add to the jar:
1.5 oz Oak Chips (French, light)

Then strain and pour into the bottling bucket at the end of week 3, with the priming sugar, add the brew...

I hope this works

That looks like a solid plan. If you could get some vanilla beans you could add that when you add your oak chips and it will keep the vanilla flavor and aroma going.