I took a day detour heading to Lollapalooza a few weeks ago to visit Bell's and Founder's. Needless to say these both kicked butt. So I stopped at a local beer store in Grand Rapids to see what they had. I ended up purchasing about 5 different Short's brews in the $180 I quickly ran though. I'll tell you what, I'm not easily impressed by breweries, but these guys seem to have it in order. I've had prob 5 of their beers and they were all solid. Way to go!!