Short boil orange ale

[bullinachinashop]

I 'm putting together a recipe to try this with;

I'm copying this from here.. https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f13/experiment-idea-no-boil-ag-beer-202785/ post 38
( not trying to hijack, just looking for thoughts)

12.5 gal preboil
11 gal batch

18# 2 row
2# vienna
1# c 40
1# c 20
1# carapils

2.5 oz Warrior 17.2AA 15 min pellet
1 oz Centennial 9.9 AA 10 min pellet
1 oz Corriander cracked 10 min
1 oz Cascade 5.75AA 1 min leaf
8 sweet oranges added to primary(peeled, chopped, brought up to 160 for 5 min and cooled to pitching temp 63degrees)
1 oz Cascade 5.75AA dry hop

90 min mash @ 152
90 min fly sparge w 180 degree water.

Target OG 1.061
Target FG 1.015
ABV 6.19%
IBU 41

15 min total boil time.
Thoughts?

 

[Oldsock]

What are you trying to accomplish with the short boil? It doesn't seem like you are trying to save time (with all the extra time built into your mash/sparge).

What sort of beer are you trying to end up with? Is this a 10 gallon batch or a 5? It seems like you have too much malt for 5, but not enough hops to get 41 IBUs in 10.

I've gotten a good orange aroma just from the zest, I would worry that heating the oranges up would giv ethem a "cooked" flavor. I'd also back down on the coriander; .5 oz is enough for me (although people seem to have very different sensitivities).

The blend of American hops and citrus fruit sounds like a good area of investigation. Good luck.

 

[bullinachinashop]

The post I moved this from was trying to save energy by doing a no boil.
The batch is for 11 gallons and I entered the hops into an IBU calculator to arrive at my target IBU's
I've added oranges in this fashion before in a recipe from Extreme Brewing (blood red hef).
1 oz of corriander shouldn't be too much for an 11 gal batch.

Bull

 

[uwjester]

I might lose the vienna malt if you are going to do a shortened boil. Anytime I use pilsner, munich, or vienna malts, I bump the boil time to 90 minutes to make sure there are no DMS precursors in the finished wort. You can do a search for DMS (dimethyl-sulfide I think), but the off flavor is a "creamed corn" flavor.

 

[Oldsock]

The post I moved this from was trying to save energy by doing a no boil.
The batch is for 11 gallons and I entered the hops into an IBU calculator to arrive at my target IBU's
I've added oranges in this fashion before in a recipe from Extreme Brewing (blood red hef).
1 oz of corriander shouldn't be too much for an 11 gal batch.

Bull

Agreed on the coriander, but I would double check your hop numbers to make sure you had the batch size and boil time right, I just put them through an online calculator and got 15 IBUs.

I do no boils for my Berliner Weisses, so it certainly can work. Good luck, let me know how it turns out.

I might lose the vienna malt if you are going to do a shortened boil. Anytime I use pilsner, munich, or vienna malts, I bump the boil time to 90 minutes to make sure there are no DMS precursors in the finished wort. You can do a search for DMS (dimethyl-sulfide I think), but the off flavor is a "creamed corn" flavor.

Pils is the one that you really have to worry about, Vienna and Munich are kilned hotter/longer than pale malt so there are no worries there.

 

[bullinachinashop]

Oldsock,
Glad you caught the IBU's being off, I must have forgot to change the presets.
I'll modify the hops to bring it up.
2.5 oz Warrior 17.2 @15
1 oz Centennial 9.9 @10
1 oz Cascade 5.75AA 1 min leaf
1 oz Cascade 5.75AA dry hop

That should get me to 41.5 IBU's

I don't think I'll have anything to worry about with the Vienna and DMS.

Bull