Shilling 90....what is it?

[Nmnbrewer]

So my buddy and I are brewing up a batch of an Odell shilling 90 clone that he has a recipe for. The issue that I'm having is that the hop schedule that he's giving me puts the ibus in the high pale ale range at 55-60. This is the hop schedule.
2 oz n brewer at 45
2 oz perle at 20
3 oz cascade at 15
1 oz mt hood at 10
This is an 11 gal batch btw and the grain bill matches almost exactly what other shilling 90 recipes that I've seen.
Any thoughts on this? Is odells shilling 90 a pale ale, Scottish ale, IPA what???

 

[dyqik]

There's no such thing as an actual Scottish 90/-, so at most the name might imply that it's "inspired by" Scottish styles. But a Scottish ale wouldn't have anything other than about 20-30 IBUs of English bittering hops, with nothing more than a hint of flavor or aroma hops.

 

[kh54s10]

There are a couple of Scottish 80 recipes in the recipe section maybe those can give you hop options.

 

[TheMadKing]

There's no such thing as an actual Scottish 90/-, so at most the name might imply that it's "inspired by" Scottish styles. But a Scottish ale wouldn't have anything other than about 20-30 IBUs of English bittering hops, with nothing more than a hint of flavor or aroma hops.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_in_Scotland#Shilling_categories

https://www.bjcp.org/docs/2015_Guidelines_Beer.pdf

page 45

90 shilling is the same thing as a wee heavy, but I agree that that hop bill is crazy for a scottish ale. It's a malt forward sweet style

 

[LLBeanJ]

Odell's 90 Shilling is a Scottish ale inspired American amber ale. It reminds me a lot of Fat Tire, though slightly sweeter, a little more bitter and there is usually a bit of hops in the finish. Odell lists the IBUs at 32.

https://www.odellbrewing.com/beer/90-shilling-ale/

 

[dyqik]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_in_Scotland#Shilling_categories

https://www.bjcp.org/docs/2015_Guidelines_Beer.pdf

page 45

90 shilling is the same thing as a wee heavy, but I agree that that hop bill is crazy for a scottish ale. It's a malt forward sweet style

OK, I've never come across that terminology for a wee heavy before.

 

[Dcpcooks]

90 shilling was the tax rate imposed by the Scottish government for the finest ales.

Odell's version is a tribute to that. It's more of a wee heavy that a barleywine. I have a recipe for it at home. I'll look for it later today for you. If I remember it's about 35 ibu's

 

[Nmnbrewer]

I have adjusted the hop bill down quite a bit to 33 ibus. Thanks for the input everybody.