San Diego vs Portland

[humann_brewing]

so are people still debating this? Can't we all just come together and have a pint at Russian River and call it even?

 

[BrianTheBrewer]

or Pliny the Elder...

 

[humann_brewing]

nice article

http://tsl.pomona.edu/new/index.php...d=1661:trevor-felch&catid=105:food&Itemid=155

 

[SumnerH]

Allagash and Maine Brewing Co vs. Russian River and Lost Abbey? That's tough...Portland per capita, San Diego in total.

 

[SumnerH]

The McMenamin brothers pioneered the brewpub concept.

William Penn, Samuel Adams, and Patrick Henry were running brewpubs long before Lovejoy and Pettygrove flipped a penny and decided to name a new city out west after Portland, ME.

Many of the most positive developments in brewing since 1978 started here in PDX, and we're continuing the evolution with the move to recognize a distinct style of "Dark IPA" (working name: "Cascadian Pale Ale"), using darker malts and the "C" hops.

The Black IPA was invented in Vermont. Greg Noonan started brewing them at Vermont Pub & Brewery in the late 1980s, then they were revived in the mid-90s and become a popular local style.

Shaun Hill (who'd worked with Noonan) brewed one at the Shed in Stowe, VT that he brought to one of the Boston beer festivals where Mitch Steele tried it, liked it, and turned the idea into Stone's 11th anniversary beer--the first west coast Black IPA.

a) It's an east coast style (which is why many people find attempt at naming it "Cascadian" either amusing or sad); and
b) San Diego gets credit over Portland for having the first brewery out west to make one and popularize it on that coast.

 

[BrewFrisco]

Tell you what...I will let you know when I get back from San Diego next month...already have two days packed full of nothing but BEER....

 

[Shooter]

Thank GOD this was revived!!!