American Pale Ale Russian River Row 2 Hill 56 Clone

[Konadog]

I made this for a wedding next week, unfortunately it's half gone already because it's so good. One of my favorite beers so far!

 

[gnor]

Which pilsner malt have you guys used, and what is your experience? My LHBS has Briess (US), Weyermann (GER) and Castle (BEL).

 

[Konadog]

I used a Belgian pilsner the last time I did this recipe. One of the best beers I've done, I liked it a lot!

 

[Jukas]

Which pilsner malt have you guys used, and what is your experience? My LHBS has Briess (US), Weyermann (GER) and Castle (BEL).

I mostly use a US malt, but have used Belgian also. Tbh I just use what maltster my lhbs has at the time

 

[gnor]

So you have used Briess, and the taste is the same as RR?

 

[Jukas]

I'll be honest I don't remember much of any distinct taste difference between maltster versions.

However it's been almost two years since I've brewed anything so try both and see which you prefer?

 

[Bilbo1usa]

Which pilsner malt have you guys used, and what is your experience? My LHBS has Briess (US), Weyermann (GER) and Castle (BEL).

I used Belgan pilsner with all Mosaic hops.
Did a FWH with the bittering addition.

All of my friends keep asking when I'm brewing 'that awesome mosaic ale' again.
It was a big hit.

 

[gnor]

So you just replaced the Simcoe hops with Mosaic, kept the hops schedule and amount the same?

 

[user 204491]

I brew this recipe a lot keeping the grain bill the same but swapping out the hops. For me I try to keep the IBUs of the hops additions true to the original recipe, so the volume of hops differs depending on the strain, but the IBUs stay more or less the same.

It's hard to beat the original, but this recipe brewed with Amarillo hops is a close second!

 

[Bilbo1usa]

So you just replaced the Simcoe hops with Mosaic, kept the hops schedule and amount the same?

Pretty much!
Here's my hop schedule with Mosaic for this recipe:
.5 oz First wort hop
.5 oz @ 30 mins
1 oz hopstand - 30 mins @ 175*
3oz dryhop 5 days at 66*

Yummy!

 

[Bilbo1usa]

So you just replaced the Simcoe hops with Mosaic, kept the hops schedule and amount the same?

Pretty much!
Here's my hop schedule with Mosaic for this recipe:
.5 oz First wort hop
.5 oz @ 30 mins
1 oz hopstand - 30 mins @ 175*
3oz dryhop 5 days at 66*

Yummy!

 

[Mofoa]

Second attempt at making this brew. First one I dry hopped in the fermentor...now I am taking a shot at dry hopping directly in the keg.

Overshot my OG at 1.072...ferm temperature was spot on. Ended at 1.010. 12 days in primary-last 48 hrs cold crashed at 40F and into keg with 1.9 oz dry hops.

Looking forward to my first pint of this two weeks from now.

 

[Bilbo1usa]

Mofoa,
Are you going to dry hop it for the two weeks at carbing/chilling temp?

 

[Mofoa]

Mofoa,
Are you going to dry hop it for the two weeks at carbing/chilling temp?

Yes, that is the plan...will leave the hop bag in there till the keg kicks it. But like the OP said--he dry hops in the keg for two weeks before he starts drawing from keg, and I will be doing the same.

 

[carlk47]

Brewing this excellent beer again this weekend! Anyone moving the boil to 60 minutes instead of 90? Curious how that would effect the flavor

 

[MerlinWerks]

Can't help you on flavor differences, I've made this recipe four times in the last year, the last time substituting Chinook for Simcoe, but I've always used a 60 minute boil.

I'll be kegging the Chinook version tonight...

 

[Konadog]

Just bottled my 3rd batch of this last Sunday. First time I did a 90min boil, 2nd and 3rd time I did a 60min boil. I don't remember any difference between the 1st and 2nd. This time I changed the Hop schedule to .5oz at 60min. .5oz at 10min. and 1oz as a whirlpool addition for 30 min at 170deg. Dry Hop addition stayed the same. Will see how it turns out in a few weeks.

 

[carlk47]

Funny it seems anyone who brews this recipe gets hooked and rebrews it multiple times!

 

[user 204491]

I do this recipe with a few different hops, and I've switched it to a 60 minute boil. Still tastes awesome.

I've used Simcoe, Amarillo, Centennial, and Mosaic. Centennial has been my least favorite so far, but it was still pretty darn good.

I shoot for 25 IBUs with my 60 minute addition and 20 for my 30 minute addition, so I adjust my hops amount to get the IBUs I want.

I do 6 gallon batches, and I always use 35 grams at flameout, and 65 grams for dry hop, not adjusting hops amount based on AAU%.

I do a quick-turn fermentation schedule, and it works out very nicely for this beer:

Ferment at 68 degrees for 5 days, then ramp temp to 75 degrees for 2 more days.

Then dry hop @ 65 degrees for 5 days.

Then cold crash @ 33 degrees for 2 days prior to kegging, fining with gelatin once beer drops below 50 degrees.

 

[Konadog]

Funny it seems anyone who brews this recipe gets hooked and rebrews it multiple times!

It was one of the beers my wife enjoyed at Russian River, so I try to keep it in stock.

 

[carlk47]

Brewing this morning.. changed the boil and first hop addition to 60 minutes, otherwise following the original recipe. Remember loving this one last spring when I made it, will probably try this grain bill again with Amarillo next time I think!

 

[dpkim]

Have a mosaic version on tap now. It will be the newest of the three on tap and first to go again.

 

[PackerfaninSanDiego]

brewed this today for the 2nd time. last batch was ruined.....My OG was 1.072. probably because I did 5 gal and not 6 gal. Either way it will be a good beer, just not the clone

 

[brew703]

I do this recipe with a few different hops, and I've switched it to a 60 minute boil. Still tastes awesome.

I've used Simcoe, Amarillo, Centennial, and Mosaic. Centennial has been my least favorite so far, but it was still pretty darn good.

I shoot for 25 IBUs with my 60 minute addition and 20 for my 30 minute addition, so I adjust my hops amount to get the IBUs I want.

I do 6 gallon batches, and I always use 35 grams at flameout, and 65 grams for dry hop, not adjusting hops amount based on AAU%.

I do a quick-turn fermentation schedule, and it works out very nicely for this beer:

Ferment at 68 degrees for 5 days, then ramp temp to 75 degrees for 2 more days.

Then dry hop @ 65 degrees for 5 days.

Then cold crash @ 33 degrees for 2 days prior to kegging, fining with gelatin once beer drops below 50 degrees.

Do you use multiple hops or do you use just one? I brewed this a few months ago as written and really liked it but want to use a different hop on the next brew.

 

[user 204491]

Do you use multiple hops or do you use just one? I brewed this a few months ago as written and really liked it but want to use a different hop on the next brew.

Just one. This is pretty much the grain bill I use for all of my single hop pale ales.

 

[Mofoa]

For those who dry hop in the keg...do you just leave in the keg till it kicks...or do you remove from keg after X days?

I left in keg 3 weeks ago...and at first, tasted good and now I am wondering I made a mistake leaving in.

 

[brew703]

Would Mosaic and Amarillo work well together?

 

[Taranis]

For those who dry hop in the keg...do you just leave in the keg till it kicks...or do you remove from keg after X days?

I left in keg 3 weeks ago...and at first, tasted good and now I am wondering I made a mistake leaving in.

All my attempts to dry hop in Keg have resulted in a grassy/vegetable flavor unless I pull them out after about 1 week.

 

[davidst]

Just one. This is pretty much the grain bill I use for all of my single hop pale ales.

Glad to hear this has worked for you. I've been looking for a grain bill to do single hop pale ales and I'm leaning towards this one (mainly since my bulk grains are pilsner and maris otter). The one big change I'm probably going to make is to move the flavor addition from 30 minutes to 15 and do a FWH instead of adding at 90 minutes.

On all of your single hop beers, do you keep the dry hop at 2oz?

 

[Mofoa]

Thanks. That's what happened here also.

Gonna try and fish out the hop sack and see if that helps...may take a while to clean up...doesn't.hurt to try.

All my attempts to dry hop in Keg have resulted in a grassy/vegetable flavor unless I pull them out after about 1 week.