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. . . and add fresh raspberries when I rack it to secondary?

So I had a question here - why do you need the secondary at all? Why not just add the fruit/puree/extract into the primary once the first fermentation has ended? Then if you still wanted to rack to a secondary you could do it after the second (fruit) fermentation has ended, and leave all the yeast _and_ fruit crud in the primary. And you'd have the benefits of sitting on the yeast cake for a little longer.

I'm tempted to try this mainly because my only available secondary is 5gal and I'm going to have about 5.5gal in my primary, so I want to leave as much crud as possible in the primary.
 
So I had a question here - why do you need the secondary at all? Why not just add the fruit/puree/extract into the primary once the first fermentation has ended? Then if you still wanted to rack to a secondary you could do it after the second (fruit) fermentation has ended, and leave all the yeast _and_ fruit crud in the primary. And you'd have the benefits of sitting on the yeast cake for a little longer.

I'm tempted to try this mainly because my only available secondary is 5gal and I'm going to have about 5.5gal in my primary, so I want to leave as much crud as possible in the primary.

This is a good question.. For someone who is new to brewing and only have one batch under my belt I dont have an answer. The only thing I can think of is racking to secondary is help clear your beer. I have read alot of people add the fruit to secondary and once that fermentation is complete, they transfer the beer over to a third carboy/bucket to clear up from all the fruit puree. Thats the only thing I can think of. It seems to me that if you add your fruit to primary and then bottled that beer, you would have some very cloudy beer. I could be 100% wrong though.
 
My thought has been that plopping several pounds of solid fruit into your beer tends to mix things up and oxidize it. Racking on top of it doesn't do that.
 
My thought has been that plopping several pounds of solid fruit into your beer tends to mix things up and oxidize it. Racking on top of it doesn't do that.

Mojotele I see you have a raspberry wheat in secondary.. any thoughts or suggestions on your procedure? Thanks again for the link you suggested.
 
I used the Oregon fruit puree stuff, mainly because of Jamil's suggestion in that podcast. I let it ferment in primary for a week, then I sanitized the top of the puree can, cut it open, and plopped it into the empty secondary. Then I racked the beer on top of it.

One thing I can say is that the fermentation of puree is very mild. I did get a small krausen, but I didn't need a blow off tube in a 5 gallon carboy. The puree also doesn't get mixed in very well until it starts fermenting.

I can't comment on taste just yet as it still has a ways to go - 2 weeks and 3 days until I bottle at least. It does have a nice rose look to it, though.

 
I used the Oregon fruit puree stuff, mainly because of Jamil's suggestion in that podcast. I let it ferment in primary for a week, then I sanitized the top of the puree can, cut it open, and plopped it into the empty secondary. Then I racked the beer on top of it.

One thing I can say is that the fermentation of puree is very mild. I did get a small krausen, but I didn't need a blow off tube in a 5 gallon carboy. The puree also doesn't get mixed in very well until it starts fermenting.

I can't comment on taste just yet as it still has a ways to go - 2 weeks and 3 days until I bottle at least. It does have a nice rose look to it, though.

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Looks good.. i think im gonna go with the oregon fruit puree afterall..
 
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