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Bernie Brewer said:
Whoa, back up the truck. I've no problem with whatever you want to grow and smoke, hell I used to do that too back in the day, and I really do wish it would be legalized, but leave my guns out of it. You can't have them.

That's fine. No one's forcing you to. I'm just saying that we (individuals) should be able to exchange that right.

I don't need to kill anything, so I don't want a gun.
 
olllllo said:
I've heard your opinions about state and local laws, but really that was only a secondary point.

What is it that you can't do in the privacy of your home? What's stopping you?

I just am not swayed enough to be "obligated" to do anything.

I understand. I'm happy just be able to brew beer myself.

Just wondering if there was any interest out there in helping others who like alcohol but can't handle beer or wine.

And if it might be possible for us to help with our dependance on getting energy
from the Mullahs in Iran and other equal dispicable characters.

The thread really went in a different direction than I anticipated.

Very interesting though.

Thanks everyone for the comments. It was entertaining to say the least.

Cheers:mug:
 
Cheesefood said:
That's fine. No one's forcing you to. I'm just saying that we (individuals) should be able to exchange that right.

I don't need to kill anything, so I don't want a gun.

The problem with that line of thinking is that you're *asking* the gov't for permission to do something, akin to a child saying if I don't have desert, can I stay up late. The government derives its power from the people, not the other way around. The duties of the government may have wildly strayed unchecked from their original intent, but the 10th amendment has yet to be repealed. While our country's homebrewing culture is seemingly almost recovered from the "Great Experiment", I see no need to give up one right to gain another.
 
Cheesefood said:
(Yes, I know we're all in this together and we love to take a bath.)
Reba??????
P.S. I live in a state that made playing poker online for money a class three felony punishable by 5 years in prison.
Guess where I stand on this topic.
 
What a mad country you live in! I would be too confused trying to remember what I could and could not do.

How about a licence to run a still. You would have to have training in the operation (like forklift truck drivers etx) before you were allowed to buy / operate one.


The gov need the tax. that is why homegrowing is illegal. I don't think that it is illegal to grow tobaco, just takes too much time and space.

and yes, the gov was put in place by general population and then they turn around and take you up the ar$e. *rant over*
 
aseelye said:
The problem with that line of thinking is that you're *asking* the gov't for permission to do something, akin to a child saying if I don't have desert, can I stay up late. The government derives its power from the people, not the other way around.

Well said, aseelye, well said. I'm a bit of a libertarian too (tempered with common sense and experience) and I'm tired of MY government constantly making laws to 'protect' me from myself. Every time someone does something stupid and Darwin's themselves, a little more of my freedom is gone. I have to pay, HAVE to pay, a minimum of $2.25 for a drink in any bar in the province. It's illegal to sell it any cheaper than that. Why? Because some university kid got plastered and wandered into the river and drowned. We have removed the ability of bars and lounges to compete with one another because some kid drank too much.

I recently had enough and joined a Canadian political party so I would have more say in policy. They say that you speak with your vote. I want to shout.
 
Fingers said:
I'm tired of MY government constantly making laws to 'protect' me from myself.



Hmmm, you have that problem in Canada, too?? Looks like the bureaucratic mentality is pretty much unilateral, huh??

And Cheese while I applaud your creativity in the idea of trading one right for another, I kind of think that our rights are just like our Declaration of Independance states: they are unalienable. They are yours, ours. They are not something for trading. Even if you feel you may not need one, you still hang onto it for dear life, because if you let one be taken away the rest are fair game and will soon be lost as well.
 
dibby33 said:
What a mad country you live in! I would be too confused trying to remember what I could and could not do.

How about a licence to run a still. You would have to have training in the operation (like forklift truck drivers etx) before you were allowed to buy / operate one.


The gov need the tax. that is why homegrowing is illegal. I don't think that it is illegal to grow tobaco, just takes too much time and space.

and yes, the gov was put in place by general population and then they turn around and take you up the ar$e. *rant over*

Does your country allow immigrants from the US?
 
Do you know who else supports the relaxation of this country's draconian drug laws?

Watch and see....
 
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start em young I say

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and Im only kidding btw
 

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