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Become a beekeeper! You'll be helping the plight of bees, plus at around $300 (New Zealand Dollars, and trust me, we get ripped off compared to all you punters in the USA) for a hive, which might yield 50-100KG (100-200lbs PER YEAR). The first year will probably not pay off, especially when you factor in the other gear, but after that, you get honey at quite an affordable monetary cost, and you will have an everlasting supply of free bees, provided you don't kill them. You can even sell your swarms and splits. My hives would pretty much pay for themselves each time I make a 23L (5gal) batch, plus I sell honey for $8NZD for 500g, about $5-6USD/lb. Plus you get to eat honey on your toast in the morning, and you know EXACTLY how much or little it has been fettered with.

I got into mead making with a little help from my hard working girls (yes, worker bees are all female), but there is no reason why your affinity to the golden brew shouldn't take you into another very interesting and absorbing hobby.:beard:
 
NZ-beekeeper, There are some crop pollination companies here in Imperial Valley California. I see alot of hives around where they grow lemons, naval oranges and grapefruit, but the main crop here is alfalfa, which they pollinate with some other type of bee in trailers. The trailers around the alfalfa are filled with trays in racks, each tray has hundreds of little holes in them. I was wondering how the business works. I know that the beekeepers rent their hives out for pollinating crops, but is they honey a side business? Is it harvested by the beekeepers and sold or does the honey not get harvested. I heard that some of the crops dont produce alot of honey and that the beekeepers have to supplement feed the hives.
 
NZ-beekeeper, There are some crop pollination companies here in Imperial Valley California. I see alot of hives around where they grow lemons, naval oranges and grapefruit, but the main crop here is alfalfa, which they pollinate with some other type of bee in trailers. The trailers around the alfalfa are filled with trays in racks, each tray has hundreds of little holes in them. I was wondering how the business works. I know that the beekeepers rent their hives out for pollinating crops, but is they honey a side business? Is it harvested by the beekeepers and sold or does the honey not get harvested. I heard that some of the crops dont produce alot of honey and that the beekeepers have to supplement feed the hives.

I wouldn't want honey from a beekeeper that supplement's the hives. He's probably also willing to take an 80% death rate shipping bees all over the country. The best apiaries, imo, are the ones that leave enough honey behind for the bees to eat and keep them healthy/happy.
 
Wow I bought 4-12 pound buckets earlier this year for $33 a bucket. It was local clover honey here in Montana. The last two I just bought, the price had increased to $35. I guess I won't complain!
 
NZ-beekeeper, There are some crop pollination companies here in Imperial Valley California. I see alot of hives around where they grow lemons, naval oranges and grapefruit, but the main crop here is alfalfa, which they pollinate with some other type of bee in trailers. The trailers around the alfalfa are filled with trays in racks, each tray has hundreds of little holes in them. I was wondering how the business works. I know that the beekeepers rent their hives out for pollinating crops, but is they honey a side business? Is it harvested by the beekeepers and sold or does the honey not get harvested. I heard that some of the crops dont produce alot of honey and that the beekeepers have to supplement feed the hives.

Alfalfa is quite a unique crop, in that it is actually not pollinated by honeybees. They use a bee call the lucerne (or alfalfa) leafcutter bee, which is a solitary bee, and make their nests in holes in the ground, in trees, or in the holes provided by the crate you mentioned. Solitary bees (including bumblebees and leafcutters) make honey, but the quantity is so tiny you wouldn't even know. Only honeybees produce it in excess. I know a beekeeper where honey is only a sideline. He doesn't do pollination either, but makes a comfortable living selling the bees themselves. You are dead right about some crops not producing much nectar. Here in NZ where a lot of kiwifruit is grown (kiwis to some, but that word already means 2 different things here besides the fruit!), there is quite a problem. The kiwifruit flowers (both male and female) produce NO nectar, so in the big monocrop farms, ALL the hives are fed cane sugar syrup, or invert syrup. Those in the pollination business usually do it for 2 reasons...it brings in WAAAY more money than selling honey, and there is less faffing around with honey equipment, storage, council regulations, food safety, processing plants, marketing costs, etc. You just have your bees, your truck, and some knowhow. Perhaps some seasonal farm hands for the busy time.

In my opinion, and from the bees' perspective, multiflora, or 'wildflower' honey is the way to go. Your varietals will often be from monoculture farms, except in the case of wild 'monoculture' eg. fireweed, which by the way, bay well be able to be called "organic". I have been to Alaska and seen the fireweed first hand. That is remote stuff up there, no chemicals, but bears etc, and not many bees/keepers (probably too cold and dark over winter). For Manuka honey, for it to be called monofloral, it needs 70% manuka, for others I believe 60% purity is enough.

Multifloral honey is a bit of a gamble for flavour and quality, but can make great mead, and is generally cheaper. I find with mead, it is normally the smell of the beehive that comes through in the final product, rather than the smell of the actual honey. In fact, mead actually tastes like the smell of a healthy hive. For this reason, I am dying to try putting a big glob of propolis into secondary for a batch (may have to be in a disposable vessel...propolis is some sticky S!!!!T).
 
I wouldn't want honey from a beekeeper that supplement's the hives. He's probably also willing to take an 80% death rate shipping bees all over the country. The best apiaries, imo, are the ones that leave enough honey behind for the bees to eat and keep them healthy/happy.

True too. Shipping bees ain't good for them, but even without it, beekeepers have reported up to 70% loss, especially in USA and Europe. They have yet to find the actual reason. I really can't stress the benefits of keeping your own bees, if you have the time and desire. Honestly, it makes honey much cheaper. I wouldn't be able to afford to brew mead without my busy girls.
 
I called around to some local keepers in my area and the cheapest I could find was clover honey for $38 a gallon. Thinking about doing my first mead yet this year.
 
For this reason, I am dying to try putting a big glob of propolis into secondary for a batch (may have to be in a disposable vessel...propolis is some sticky S!!!!T).

I have seen bees gathering caulking from around windows and doors here in the desert. Maybe because of the lack of resin producing trees. From what I know, propolis is used to seal gaps in the hive, why not use caulking? Thats exactly what we use it for. Honey bees are amazing creatures.
 

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