Premier malt extract

[oltradplanter]

the yeast as well as hop is to what is local. oh here in the sticks I doing great with the malt extract. Yes I can not do that as of yet..I do have some champange yeast. wonder if? still will look into better yeast and hops when in bham that is the closest place.and that is 3 hrs from here

 

[oltradplanter]

carbonation is helping this batch along...tight bubbles now. Rev thanks for the coaching. I wish I knew of a place closer than Bham for yeast and such you can get now versus a few days to a week mail/ups/fedx/...

 

[jcobbs]

Oltradplanter, are you north or south of Bham? Don't know which direction you are in AL, but Werner's in Cullman has a nice selection of homebrew supplies, although they seem to cater more to wine than beer. I think you can order from their website as well. I go to an old health food store in Huntsville that has a fair selection of brew stuff, although their prices are higher than Werner's. I know there's supposed to be a LHBS in Mobile, but don't know anything about it.

 

[oltradplanter]

Near Auburn

 

[oltradplanter]

second brew batch...listening to my peers did the following:
1 can of PME hopped LIGHT + 2 gallons of water to a boil for an 45 minutes then added 1.5 pounds of brown sugar and the 2nd can of PME hopped light turned off heat and let the heat in the pot bring it to a boil. Removed from heat and put into a ice bath cooling it down. then poured it off after 15 minutes into awaiting 5 gallon carboy containing 2.5 gallons of cold water...added yeast that had been activated in warm water to the mix toped out the carbooy at 5 gallons airlocked and aggitated..looks a lot better than first batch smells better too. The yeast was what can with the cans and it was two colors cream and brown..who knows what we get but when in bham will be getting some yeast as well as hops.

 

[jcobbs]

Checked my batch today--fermentation has started although not as strong as other batches I've made. I think it's because it's a bit cooler than before. Nice smell & color though--can't wait to see how this turns out.

 

[derailedgtr]

how about this insanity that is now bubbling madly away in my 6.5 gal carboy?
5 gal premier arrogant bastard clone:
4 cans of premier hopped light extract
1 lb 120l crystal malt
8 oz light brown sugar
1 oz chinook pellets @ 15 min
1 oz chinook pellets @ 1 min
1 packet safale s-04
bring 1 gal water to 160f, add crystal malt, let sit for 1 hr
pour through strainer into boil pot (mine is currently 4 gal)
gently rinse grains w 1 gal 180f water.
add premier extract, brown sugar, and water to a safe boiling level
boil 20 min adding hops accordingly
chill to 80-90f. i use an ice water in sink method.
transfer to carboy and fill to 5 gal w fridge temp water (i use bottled drinking water).
seal the carboy, wait a few hours for it to cool some more and pitch the yeast, install airlock.
this stuff is screaming along and the smells coming from the airlock are awesome!

hey guys! i'm still drinking on this one and all i can say is DAYYUUUMMM!!!!!
this beer is awesome. i usually only have one at a time though.
i have progressed on to all-grain but will continue to brew this one up when i only have time for shorter brewdays or when the mood strikes or for my buddies to drink on at cookouts and parties.

 

[oltradplanter]

please keep me posted I will do the same here on this one..So far the fermenting has been off by an hour the first ever brewed batch started at an hour after pouring into the fermenter this time it was two but the foam and gas off is stronger. The smell was amazing as it cooked.

 

[oltradplanter]

drailed that recipe worked DAng I was wondeering if you were going to pull that one off.Curious glad if worked.

 

[oltradplanter]

update on the ferment..we are rolling added the two packets of yeast that came with the cans...this is the first time the foam blew out the air lock...cleaned it and now have it in an overflow bottle and the bubbles are still rolling...I think the beer got to warm but most of the day its been rocking along the cat keeps guard of it

 

[oltradplanter]

would someone explain the use of crystal malts.....If i have malt extract why add the other...curious and still green horn?

 

[Guinness]

Great thread - I love the history behind this. A hearty tx to the OP, and I hope he and his grandfather enjoyed much of it.

I'll have to keep an eye out for it, does anyone know of a Canadian supermarket chain that carries it?

 

[oltradplanter]

It is made in Canada.

 

[oltradplanter]

the Fermentation has slowed a bit not as rapid as yesterday when it blew the lock that morning...gray stuff ...that krasen thingy is forming and the bubbles are still rolling very interested in how this turns out with the way the extract was added. Glad to know now that malt cyrstals add more carmel to it ...

 

[derailedgtr]

would someone explain the use of crystal malts.....If i have malt extract why add the other...curious and still green horn?

sure. Other malted grains, like Crystal 120 or Carafa I or Black Patent Malt, will add flavors, aroma, and coloring to your beers. check out www.brew365.com for descriptions of several base and adjunct malts (and hops too). www.northernbrewer.com has some good descriptions of what different malts and hops taste and smell like as well.
Get your hands on Charlie Papazian's "Joy of Homebrewing" for even more information. He actually has some recipes that call for premier malt extract in that book.

 

[wilserbrewer]

would someone explain the use of crystal malts.....If i have malt extract why add the other...curious and still green horn?

Crystal or caramel malt will add flavor and body that are sometimes not available in prepared extract. Easy to do, crush grain and then just steep it at 150 - 160.

 

[RangerBob]

I found this thread way back in the middle of June and have been keeping up on how everyboby has done with the PME kits. At last, I got my 2-5gal. carboys going a couple days ago, using the instructions on the can. Except for the bentonite. I remembered the last time I made this stuff, that there was a slight grain haze to it and I was hoping for a clearer beer. Won't hurt to try anyways. Should have taken a hydrometer reading but it shouldn't be too important on this end. I will take one to be sure that it doesn't get bottled too soon though. Don't believe how cheap some of you folks get this malt for. I can drive to the Premier Plant in 45 minutes and I had to give $9.50 a can...and that was a 2 case order to boot. Got tht "Light" "Hopped Flavor". Wish I would have gotten 1 case without any hops so I could double up, 2 cans to 5gal. without over-hopping it. Oh well. Hind sight is always 20/20.

Today I noticed that Premier isn't using the same type of yeast that they used the last time I made some. 35+ years ago. The old type must have been a lager because it fermented on the bottom of the carboy. The kind I got with this batch floats on top. Should be an ale yeast?...Guess ale yeast would be easier to care for if the weather is warm. Got an old freezer and a batch of real lager yeast to try later, when I get a thermostat control. Or the $$ to buy one with.

Was going to bottle it up in 32oz. "Quart" bottles". These are the real deal too. A buddy who used to brew, gave me a gaggle of em. My problem is I don't know how much priming sugar to use in the bigger bottles. Seems like 1 level tsp. should be about right. I realy don't want to guess though. Is there anybody out there that knows for sure how much to add? I be beholding to ya....

 

[RangerBob]

the corn syrup is sure fine wondering what this stuff will be like...was rather a purist...1 can of PME light (hopped)(that is what the grocer had), 1.5 cups of corn syrup, 4 gallons of water and what ever yeast they had in the lid of the can. The hope is a english style ale. have no clue what this will taste like...open to hints ....

With only 1.5 cups of corn syrup, isn't this going to be sort of on the watery side or is that how sweet it is compared to sugar. 5 cups of sugar in mine. You might be able to beef it up if you have a bigger size fermenter. Just wondering...LOL

 

[revbish]

Ranger Bob,
Don't prime the finished beer by putting sugar directly in the bottles. Rack the finished beer into a "bottling bucket" that will hold the whole batch, then stir in the complete amount of required priming sugar, boiled for a few minutes in a little water, to the bucket. That way, all the bottles will be uniformly carbonated just the right amount.

 

[RangerBob]

You're right about that "REV". Not only will it come out more consistent, it's faster too. With only 20 bottles per 5gal. it's not too bad. Right now I have a batch of Welch's goin in my primary fermenter and it's the only clean bucket I have and haven't used for fish. At 14%, you should see the airlock on it. "It's Doin The Dance". Liked that story about the jug you left in the car....LOL That's like something I'd do. You got anything brewing now? I had to make some beer to drink while I waiting for the wine to age. The house is getting a unique smell to it now.....Bob

 

[oltradplanter]

Rev I found that method worked well after I attempted putting a bit of sugar in a bottle to prime...It was after 3 bottles i decided to liquify this sugar and add to the bottling bucket still capped off every bottle including the sugar ones..later i wanted to see the difference It seemed the liquified priming sugar was the better method the carbonation is there. The result was more to my liking...will work next on the steeping of additional grains in the 3rd batch..not much can be done on batch number two it finished bubbling two days ago

 

[RangerBob]

Hey "Olt", Which one is #2? I have an idea if it's the one with a cup and 1/2 of syrup. You guys are right about mixing the sugar in the bucket. I could sure save a lot of grief and more than one way.....YESSSS INDEED...It's the way to go, for sure. I'm just kinda stuck where I'm at right now and it's not by choice. I see "REV" has a container problem too. By the way, I can't answer PM's. Something wrong with my computer. I hope you understand. My comp is new and it has a couple of glitches. Hope to sort them out. Think it was a program I added last week. DIVx
Bought a new beer at the carry-out today. It's called "Flat Tire". Has a cool picture on the bottle of an old Schwinn bike sporting a springer front end. Think that's what sold me. At $4.95 for a 22oz., I bet they don't sell very many. Does have a good flavor to it and 5.2%. I'm in the wrong biz.
Even if my brewing skill never get any better, I have managed to to double the population of beer bugs in the house. I wouldn't mind em but they want to kiss me on the lips and drink my beer. Have an X-Wife that'll do that.

 

[oltradplanter]

does one think a saison beer style could be made from Premier Malt or a stout?

 

[oltradplanter]

#2? my second batch is a bit different instead of 1.5 cups of corn syrup I added 1.5 pounds of dark brown sugar and two cans of malt extract..., The 1st batch i ever made was one can of premier malt extract light ( but hopped) with 1.5 cups of corn syrup...not brought to boil added to water for a total of 4 gallons....it made a nice brew this second batch going is very much different.

 

[RangerBob]

Oh...That one. You're on you're own there, #2. Well...I just had a sudden streak of
enlightenment. Didn't see what you two guys were trying to tell me. Duhhh... If the volume of the sugar is one size in a 12oz. bottle, it will be the same size (volume) in a 32oz. if the sugar level remains the same. That is if I mix it in a bucket, like you said. It's amazing how things come about clear as mud sometimes. I thank you both for helping me out. Couldn't have done it without you two. That's funny. Got to laugh at myself.

 

[oltradplanter]

have another it'll be jussssssssssss fine

 

[jcobbs]

Update on my 2.5 gallon batch--one week into primary and the airlock has almost stopped and the yeast is starting to flocculate. Looks like it's going to be a nice color and the aroma is really nice. Couldn't help it--had to sneak a taste. From what I could taste around all the live yeast I think it's going to be a pretty drinkable brew. I think I'm going to have about $12 in the batch and get about 24 bottles. About what I'd give for a case of the pale yellow stuff, EXCEPT it will taste better AND I made it myself!

 

[oltradplanter]

sounds like your 24 bottle will be quite nice... Looks like today is bottling day...going to add the prime and go from there will be interesting...have 5 gallons to bottle up and let sit for another two weeks.... gees that is going to be rough....Do have a question...Curious as to use a pure dark molasses as the priming sugar...has anyone done this where they prime with a solution of beer and dark molasses? The intent is to have a darker beer and the Molasses should complement the beer well. just curious.

 

[Guinness]

It is made in Canada.

I see that it's made in Canada, but haven't seen it for sale anywhere...

 

[oltradplanter]

I will let you know if i find out