poll: Cascadian Dark Ale/Black IPA - proper name

[fred_zepp]

The Tech Support / Accounting Services part.

I nearly spit my beer all over the screen!

 

[Shooter]

It's really not a hop implication, more just that the hop and the beer were both named after a mountain range/region.

My vote may be a bit biased because I can see the cascades out my window.

Wait a minute, Cascadian, Cascade Hops, Cascade Mountains, you mean there's a relationship here somewhere?!?!? I figured it was just coincidence that they all had similar names. Man, now my head is spinning!

 

[olllllo]

American light lager is a good example of where the BJCP doesn't name a beer after the place it was invented/popularized, but there are beers'o'plenty where they have named it after that region.

Munich, Dortmund, Dusseldorf, Berlin, Koeln, and California all come to mind.

Exactly. Lets look at the youngest one there.
Cali-common. Mid 1850's to mid 1950's

Lets all agree to revisit the name in about 75 years.

 

[bovineblitz]

I was reading another thread and people seemed to concur that the SRM for the style should be 30+. So maybe "American Dark Ale" isn't precise enough. Maybe it should be "American Black Ale"?

Yeah I shoulda put that in the poll. Also should've added 'India Black Ale'

Can't change it now, too many votes

 

[AnOldUR]

Munich, Dortmund, Dusseldorf, Berlin, Koeln, and California all come to mind.

How many of these names/styles pre-date the BJCP?

 

[DKershner]

Exactly. Lets look at the youngest one there.
Cali-common. Mid 1850's to mid 1950's

Lets all agree to revisit the name in about 75 years.

Well, right, but the BJCP itself is only 25 years old, which means nearly 100% of the names are just taken from what is the most popular way to say something. For the time being, the brewers seem to be split on CDA or BIPA from what I have seen.

I really think they put very little effort towards the name, and a lot of time spent drinking the beer and describing it, which is certainly how I would do it too.

 

[DKershner]

How many of these names/styles pre-date the BJCP?

I think all the styles on the BJCP predate it...though not 100% on that. What has been added in the past 25 years?

If Jeep (olllllo) was right about saying that American Light Lager was the latest, we may be looking at the first addition since the BJCP has been around, which means that all precedent is sort of out the window...

 

[klyph]

Cascadian Northwest American New England Dark Brown Black Mild Roast Triple Hops Ice Brewed Genuine Draft King/Champagne of Beers India Pale Ale

 

[Shooter]

cascadian northwest american new england dark brown black mild roast triple hops ice brewed genuine draft king/champagne of beers india pale ale

ftw!!!

 

[remilard]

I think all the styles on the BJCP predate it...though not 100% on that. What has been added in the past 25 years?

Blond Ale, American Wheat (probably), American Rye (certainly), IIPA, American Amber Ale, American Brown Ale, American Stout,.

 

[DKershner]

Blond Ale, American Wheat (probably), American Rye (certainly), IIPA, American Amber Ale, American Brown Ale, American Stout,.

Well, then. That is a pattern...

 

[olllllo]

I said one of.... I picked the undisputedly most popular style and so remilard astutely took the punchline of my joke.


AMERICA **** YAH.

 

[olllllo]

I said one of.... I picked the undisputedly most popular style and so remilard astutely took the punchline of my joke.


AMERICA **** YAH.

 

[DKershner]

AMERICA **** YAH.

Nice.

Although, did any of the above mentioned styles have any marketing that pushed them as something other than just 'brown' or 'lite lager'? Miller lite may have been the first, but even they say some crap on the bottom of the can like 'premium pilsner lager' or something like that. Well, now it is triple hopped, but before...

I would suppose the big IPA would've been split between double and imperial...but they did choose one of those.

 

[bovineblitz]

You know, thinking about it a little more, I don't like the name 'American Black Ale' or 'American Dark Ale'. Typically the word American is added on to differentiate the style from one that already exists. American Pale Ale is a take on the classic Pale Ale. Same with the other American styles, even the BMC style lager.

There is no pre-existing black or dark ale, so I don't think it makes sense to label it this way.

 

[olllllo]

Why do you hate America/the troops?


</sarcasm>

 

[klyph]

You know, thinking about it a little more, I don't like the name 'American Black Ale' or 'American Dark Ale'.

For a second there I thought you were going to propose African American Ale.

 

[AnOldUR]

There is no pre-existing black or dark ale, so I don't think it makes sense to label it this way.

Schwarzbier (Black Beer) is pretty close.

 

[bovineblitz]

Schwarzbier (Black Beer) is pretty close.

yeah but it's a lager

 

[homebeerbrewer]

For a second there I thought you were going to propose African American Ale.

I had beer coming out of my nose when I read that...

Balderdash! Just like the Y2K doomsayers my friend, you are too eager to believe the false prophets. The "national" geographic wars on the other hand...well, you can take that one to the bank!

Ok, we'll see. I'm still brewing a $h!t load of beer for the "End of the World" party. Maybe it'll just turn out to be a Christmas party...

 

[effigyoffaith]

I like the name 'india black ale.'

 

[bovineblitz]

For a second there I thought you were going to propose African American Ale.

hahahaha

 

[slowbie]

The poll is skewed.

People think CDA is winning.

The people who want anything but are winning. Black IPA and American Dark can be combined as far as I am concerned.

That's how Abraham Lincoln ended up president.

 

[cheezydemon3]

That's how Abraham Lincoln ended up president.

....well, good point, but maybe a bad example since he turned out to do some good things.

If the republic of cascadia's fictitious ego grows any bigger, it might need it's own regional name.

 

[WC87]

India Black Ale - write-in candidate

 

[robp7787]

Mine is called Darkness

CHARLIE MURPHAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to revive what is clearly a dead thread, but I just brewed a (whatever they ended up calling this style) and I also named mine "Darkness" in honor of Mr. Murphy and his contributions to the world. Just wanted to say "well played, old boy" to babalu for your discerning taste.

Cheers!!

 

[Haputanlas]

It's officially Cascadian Dark Ale from bjcp. I personally like Black IPA or India Black Ale

 

[the_bird]

Sorry to revive what is clearly a dead thread, but I just brewed a (whatever they ended up calling this style) and I also named mine "Darkness" in honor of Mr. Murphy and his contributions to the world. Just wanted to say "well played, old boy" to babalu for your discerning taste.

Cheers!!

Name it "Dahkness" for Babs. He's doing a lot better, but dude and his family still needs a lot of prayers.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f19/babalu-192443/

 

[sonex]

Black IPA describes exactly what the beer is, so that gets my vote.

 

[chapa]

Black IPA describes exactly what the beer is, so that gets my vote.

Isn't there something contradictive about "black" and "pale" in the same name though? Thats why I didn't think India Black Ale was a bad name, but then you get the confusion with India Brown Ale if you did IBA. Plus, I mean these ARE American style beers too, so India being in the name is really irrelevant at this point, other than to honor tradition and have a cool back story. I like the fresh start of Cascadian Dark Ale and it sounds kind of victorian or royal.