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Ehh **** it, while were at it:

The Only* Seasons of the Simpsons, ranked in order from best to worst:

4,5,6,7,3,8,2,1


This is not up for debate.


*These are the only seasons that were ever made. Don't you even try to tell me about a "Season 9" or "25" or whatever. That's false.
Looking through this more thoroughly, if you think season 8 is that low on the list, your opinion is null and void. Disqualified.
 
an interesting factoid from an article on another site:

"Of the nearly 4,300 breweries operating in 2015, more than 3,900 of them produced fewer than 7,500 barrels. That means 91 percent of American craft brewers account for only 1.5 percent of the total production of the nation’s beer industry."

Everyone is always asking when the bubble will burst...well with a stat like that, I think the bubble can sustain quite a bit more growth before we talk about it bursting ...especially if it continues to eat into big beer production while simultaneously only slowly increasing its own...

Another quote from the same editorial:

"The new wave of smaller brewers, often based on the taproom model, frequently have few, if any, intentions of selling beer outside of their four walls. It’s a financially smart model in a capital hungry, expensive industry. It also invites some insularity, where in the absence of a need to engage the outside market, brewers retreat to their own houses and don’t interact with others."

This would explain both the successes of breweries that we rarely mention (Hop Farm, East End, Roundabout, Full Pint, etc...) as well as explain why they don't necessarily feel the need to participate as much in the community.

But how do we get bottles to trade is the question
 
Can someone fill a semi-n00b in on the story with Shelton Brothers? Why did they leave Pittsburgh and what would the effect be for us if they were to return?

Curious as well. Nate gave a very vague response about it a while ago that, to me, implied that someone at Vencenie's f'd up badly and damaged the relationship.
 
Take a look at their site. That would be the effect for us.

I mean, I get what they carry, but surely everywhere that they serve doesn't have shelves flooded Drie Fonteinen and Cantillon right?

Side note: No offense to them at all of course, but it seems funny to see Draai Laag on that list.
 
Can someone fill a semi-n00b in on the story with Shelton Brothers? Why did they leave Pittsburgh and what would the effect be for us if they were to return?

Curious as well. Nate gave a very vague response about it a while ago that, to me, implied that someone at Vencenie's f'd up badly and damaged the relationship.
Joke answer: effect would be that we'd get draai laag in Pittsburgh.

Real answer: we'd get cantillon, drie fonteinen, fantome, struise, jolly pumpkin, etc. (http://www.sheltonbrothers.com/booze/).

Word around town for the last decade or so is that vecinies had a falling out with them, but I never had the balls to ask Tony to his face exactly what happened, and have never heard reliable specifics from anyone else.
 
Looking through this more thoroughly, if you think season 8 is that low on the list, your opinion is null and void. Disqualified.


Ugh. I didn’t want to argue this, because I am so right. But, here is the reasoning:

4,5,6 are the absolute pinnacle. No way 8 is above any of them.

Although 8 has some of my very favorite episodes (A Milhouse Divided, Homer's Phobia, Homer vs 18th Amendment), it is also the first season that really starts to show some cracks. There are also some real duds that season. The highs of that season are truly awesome though. I am fine with 8 > 7, but I think 7 is more consistent.

I would be tempted to put 8 ahead of 3, but 3 has some great “sentimental” episodes, and is the first season that gets truly funny.

I can tolerate people’s opinions that 8 is ahead of 3 or 7. I’m just not sure it’s a proper opinion to have.
 
Joke answer: effect would be that we'd get draai laag in Pittsburgh.

Real answer: we'd get cantillon, drie fonteinen, fantome, struise, jolly pumpkin, etc. (http://www.sheltonbrothers.com/booze/).

Word around town for the last decade or so is that vecinies had a falling out with them, but I never had the balls to ask Tony to his face exactly what happened, and have never heard reliable specifics from anyone else.


Cool. Thanks for the info!
 
That's been true for years. Was hoping for better reasoning from Nate.
Eh, just a hunch. Seems they'd want to have representation in DL's home market, & the deliberately vague tone of the job posting made me jump to the conclusion that it might be them, maybe prematurely.

EDIT: Actually just got off the phone with their office, who claimed not to know anything about it, so maybe nevermind.
 
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Eh, just a hunch. Seems they'd want to have representation in DL's home market, & the deliberately vague tone of the job posting made me jump to the conclusion that it might be them, maybe prematurely.

EDIT: Actually just got off the phone with their office, who claimed not to know anything about it, so maybe nevermind.

thanks a lot, nate.
 
Ugh. I didn’t want to argue this, because I am so right. But, here is the reasoning:

4,5,6 are the absolute pinnacle. No way 8 is above any of them.

Although 8 has some of my very favorite episodes (A Milhouse Divided, Homer's Phobia, Homer vs 18th Amendment), it is also the first season that really starts to show some cracks. There are also some real duds that season. The highs of that season are truly awesome though. I am fine with 8 > 7, but I think 7 is more consistent.

I would be tempted to put 8 ahead of 3, but 3 has some great “sentimental” episodes, and is the first season that gets truly funny.

I can tolerate people’s opinions that 8 is ahead of 3 or 7. I’m just not sure it’s a proper opinion to have.
And yet you didn't mention "You Only Move Twice". Disqualified again. My order is 4,6,8,7,5,3,2 and 1. My only real dud in season 8 is the Sherry Bobbins ********. Total drainpour of an episode, super infected.
 
Shelton won't be coming until Steel City wholesalers buy the rights from Vencenie. Which may or may not ever happen but I wouldn't be surprised if they took a shot at it. I'm not 100% on this but I don't think Shelton retains the rights to distribute beer for breweries in their hometowns. I don't know anything about the Draai Laag deal but most of the U.S. breweries distribute themselves or with local distro in their home cities/states(Prairie, Mystic, Green Bench) It wouldn't make a ton of sense financially for a brewery to have them also do it locally, they are basically an importer/exporter. I think Shelton Brothers may have been started as a company in Vandelay Industries but don't quote me on that.
 
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Just realized something. Both of these ideas are from the minds at Kramerica Industries, not Vandelay Industries.

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Had hitchhiker bane of existence on cask at piper's earlier today. Really wanted to love it, but only kinda liked it.

Hazy AF though. ;)
 
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