Picked up cooker from Bass PRo

[hefehawk]

Getting oil up to temp is harder than water as you usually cook in 350 degree oil.

Not it isn't. Much harder to boil water than to catch oil on fire.

 

[BeerChef17]

Not it isn't. Much harder to boil water than to catch oil on fire.

Off topic but...
The ability to catch a substance on fire and its ability to get it to a temperate of 212 are completely different scenarios. I work in a kitchen everyday and I can say for a fact more energy is required to heat oil to 350 than water to 212

Anyway take it back and try a new burner. Hopefully you will get better results

 

[hefehawk]

Off topic but...
The ability to catch a substance on fire and its ability to get it to a temperate of 212 are completely different scenarios. I work in a kitchen everyday and I can say for a fact more energy is required to heat oil to 350 than water to 212

Anyway take it back and try a new burner. Hopefully you will get better results

If both substances are the same, I would agree.

Here is something I found:

The oil will get hotter than the water for a given amount of added heat. That is due to the difference in Specific Heat capacities. The defining equation is ΔT = ΔQ/C where ΔT is the change in temperature, ΔQ is the amount of added heat, and C is the specific heat capacity. C for water is approximately twice that of typical oils so its temperature rise will be half of that for the oil.
The real question is 'Why is Cwater larger than Coil?'. Roughly speaking, you pick up the same heat capacity for each available 'degree-of-freedom". Small molecules can water pack a lot of different modes of motion and of squashing into each other like springs into a small volume. Bigger molecules like most oils, rather stiff in some directions, tend to have fewer available ways of moving and squashing per volume.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_capacity for information on heat capacity.

 

[BeerChef17]

Ok last thing I'm saying on this. I know all about specific heat as I used to be a chem major before going to culinary school. The specific heat of water is 1 and the specific heat of canola oil (common used for frying) is 1.91. Therefore oil takes 2 times the heat water does to raise 1 degree celcius. Even if it were half (which it is not) oil is generally heated to twice the temperature of water. Therefore saying a pot or burner is meant for oil instead of water is completely incorrect. No matter the burner it will boil water all the same. Some just happen to be more efficient at it then others.

 

[hefehawk]

Ok last thing I'm saying on this. I know all about specific heat as I used to be a chem major before going to culinary school. The specific heat of water is 1 and the specific heat of canola oil (common used for frying) is 1.91. Therefore oil takes 2 times the heat water does to raise 1 degree celcius. Even if it were half (which it is not) oil is generally heated to twice the temperature of water. Therefore saying a pot or burner is meant for oil instead of water is completely incorrect. No matter the burner it will boil water all the same. Some just happen to be more efficient at it then others.

I think you have that backwards.

Here is something else I've found:

The specific heat of vegetable oil is 1.67 kJ/(kg*K) and the specific heat of water is 4.19 kJ/(kg*K).

It would take 255 kJ to raise vegetable oil from room temp to 350F, whereas it would take 319 kJ to raise water from room temp to only 212F.

 

[Bamsdealer]

It's been 12 years since I've done real math or chemistry, but going off my experience in the kitchen oil heats up easier and quicker than water. Regardless, this cooker needs to go back if it can only get 3 gal of water to 200 degrees.

 

[dpalme]

Finally took the Bass Pro cooker back, got my refund with no questions, asked....actually the cashier was interested in the beer making process......went over to Lowes and picked up a Bayou classic, already put together for me, hooked up the tank and fired it off and put the kettle (40 qt) on top with about 3 to 3 1/2 gallons of water and the lid on. We'll see how fast this one cooks up. I like the fact that the burner is a LOT CLOSER To the kettle than the last one.....so I'm sure that is going to have an effect, also no noise and I've got it opened up to about 60%...anymore and I'll have flames coming up the sides of the kettle.....will post a comment later as to my success, or failure

 

[dpalme]

LOL I get the water up to somewhere close to about 120 degrees or so, had it running for oh 20 to 25 minutes and I ran out of gas......screw it, its just not my week

I'll have to test this tomorrow after I get some gas!

 

[SocalNat]

It's going back tomorrow

After a second run with 6-7 gallons of water and full flame for 20 min still nor close to a boil

Hope its not too late, try this:
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc...53&langId=-1&keyword=100000+btu&storeId=10051
Works like a champ!