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The Yeast Bay's Melange.

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I brewed it June 7 and have been keeping it at 70 degrees. I get a heavy smell of strawberries, I haven't tasted it yet though.
 
The pink is from oxidation. Really light beers that oxidize often turn pink or even darker red/purple. I get that sometimes just from leaving a light beer in a glass in the fridge for a day or two. I think I read someone saying it might be an oxidative yeast changing the color.
 
Wow. Weird. I've read to never, ever throw out a sour beer, bc age can sometimes make it better. Is vinegar beer an exception?
 
If it's just too vinegary you can use it to cook with. No joke, it's good. Otherwise, there are so many reasons to throw out a sour beer. Some things don't get better. Acetic (vinegar) character is one of those things, but not the worst one.
 
Btw it got extremely oxidized (for a sour) and now tastes like vinegar...
looks like you aged this beer in a plastic bucket - that probably let in too much O2, and either the brett or (more likely) acetobacter created acetic acid, AKA vinegar. this flavor will not age out.

if that plastic equipment were mine (bucket, auto-siphon, etc.), i would throw it out. i would be nervous about acetobacter potentially hiding out in the scratches and not being killed by star san.
 
looks like you aged this beer in a plastic bucket - that probably let in too much O2, and either the brett or (more likely) acetobacter created acetic acid, AKA vinegar. this flavor will not age out.



if that plastic equipment were mine (bucket, auto-siphon, etc.), i would throw it out. i would be nervous about acetobacter potentially hiding out in the scratches and not being killed by star san.


Yeah, it all I had at the time. The plan was to transfer once my glass opened up, but it turned to vinegar in 2.5 months. I peeked in it a lot, and took a few gravity samples as well.
I threw out that bucket
 
it turned to vinegar in 2.5 months. I peeked in it a lot, and took a few gravity samples as well.
ugh, that's rough - and fast!

jay goodwin, on the sour hour, encourages folks to "taste along the way", "accompany the beer on its journey", etc - which is easier and safer to do if you have a large quantity of beer in a barrel, with a vinnie nail, etc. regular tasting on the homebrew level can lead to way too much O2 getting in to the fermentor. so as much as i respect jay, i advocate the "set it and forget it" method. the beer is unlikely to be ready in less than 8 months, so leave it alone until then. i typically don't touch mine for a year.
 
Wow. Weird. I've read to never, ever throw out a sour beer, bc age can sometimes make it better. Is vinegar beer an exception?


That is possibly the worst advice I have ever read on HBT and that is really saying something.
 
I think the advice being referenced is to the give your first beers some time as some off flavors will age out. This is in regards to most new brewers tendency to taste green beer and say their beer is awful and get dissuaded. I havent seen it in regards to sour beer though. I have aged an accidental infection beer that turned out interesting.

As for vinegar beer? Nope, no fixing that. Once its vinegar its not turning back into beer. The damage is done.
 
I need some help with this one. This is a jar of reserved cake from an ECY20 batch. There was no pellicle for probably a couple months. Then it grew a thick off white one. Now, several months later, areas of that pellicle have turned grey. It's not grey stuff on the pellicle, the pellicle itself has changed color in these spots. You can't see the texture in the white areas so well in this picture, but the texture is identical across the whole thing.

The jar hasn't been opened at all until today to take this picture. The smell was great yeasty sour aroma, nothing off about it. I was hoping to pitch this into some future batch, but I'm not sure if the grey areas are just pellicle, or something more nefarious. Any insight or advice would be appreciated.

Cheers.

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I need some help with this one. This is a jar of reserved cake from an ECY20 batch. There was no pellicle for probably a couple months. Then it grew a thick off white one. Now, several months later, areas of that pellicle have turned grey. It's not grey stuff on the pellicle, the pellicle itself has changed color in these spots. You can't see the texture in the white areas so well in this picture, but the texture is identical across the whole thing.

The jar hasn't been opened at all until today to take this picture. The smell was great yeasty sour aroma, nothing off about it. I was hoping to pitch this into some future batch, but I'm not sure if the grey areas are just pellicle, or something more nefarious.
the fact that it smells good is a positive sign.

idea: brew up 3/4 gallons of 1.040 wort (good use for extract) and throw it in a one-gallon container along with the ECY34 weirdness. give it a month or two and then evaluate.
 
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