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Anyone ever verify the legitimacy of any of these ... like someone actually wins and the winner is not a friend of the seller?

They are usually run using the drawing numbers from public lotteries like Powerball, so there's no way to scam the system short of just flat-out absconding off with the money and never shipping the bottle. It's not like the person draws paper slips out of a hat or something.

Razzle groups started allowing people to take spots in their own razzles now. So the person running the razzle has a chance at winning the bottle and keeping all of the money. I stopped participating in them once i found that out. So shady.
 
Razzle groups started allowing people to take spots in their own razzles now. So the person running the razzle has a chance at winning the bottle and keeping all of the money. I stopped participating in them once i found that out. So shady.
Not much different than the old method of having your friend "buy" a spot in your razzle
 
Not much different than the old method of having your friend "buy" a spot in your razzle

That's still shady af. I mean, if you proxy for someone and instead of taking a commission someone gives you a spot in the razzle, that's one thing. But to actually try to end up keeping your own bottle and take people's money is just kinda ******, imo.
 
For the Lambic.Info raffle to benefit New Avenues for Youth, we literally drew names out of a pot specifically to avoid any appearances of impropriety. We had a bunch of boxes and tons of people with multiple entries, so using a number system was impractical to make it transparent without being confusing. Only problem with doing a random drawing like that was cutting the all the names out in their proper ratios was a pain and no international people won, despite strong international support.

Yeah but that's a charity raffle being run by an organization and there are a huge number of entries. Not exactly the same thing as some shitlord getting #maxprofitz from 15 people and one of his buddies conveniently wins when names are drawn "randomly" out of a hat. Say what you will about Facebook beer raffles, but they are largely conducted above-board in terms of who wins or loses.

As for the bolded, I personally found all the complaining about that to be pretty lame and whiny. Do European lambic fans not understand the Law of Large Numbers? I don't see any reason why a drawing like that should have winners stratified by region (or anything else). I'm loathe to ever complain about a raffle charity, but "you donated the same amount of money as someone else but have a much lower chance to win based on where you are from!" would annoy me a bit.
 
Do European lambic fans not understand the Law of Large Numbers? I don't see any reason why a drawing like that should have winners stratified by region (or anything else). I'm loathe to ever complain about a raffle charity, but "you donated the same amount of money as someone else but have a much lower chance to win based on where you are from!" would annoy me a bit.

At the time, I estimated the odds of not drawing any international donors to be ~20%. Much more likely that we would have drawn one, but certainly not very improbable that we didn't. We mostly were just really happy to have international participation and had hoped that at least one would win to encourage more of that in future charity raffles. But yeah, we were drawing randomly and there were way more US entries, so that's just the way it worked out.
 
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Growler of what's basically a periodic "shelf beer" shipped halfway around the country for expensive bourbon, rare (emphasis added) stouts, and other limited/barrel-aged/expensive beer, makes sense.

I guess the Monkish hops part is reasonable. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
For the Lambic.Info raffle to benefit New Avenues for Youth, we literally drew names out of a pot specifically to avoid any appearances of impropriety. We had a bunch of boxes and tons of people with multiple entries, so using a number system was impractical to make it transparent without being confusing. Only problem with doing a random drawing like that was cutting the all the names out in their proper ratios was a pain and no international people won, despite strong international support.
You take the name you want to win and put it in the freezer. Just pull out the cold one.
Can't tell you how I know this other than "I grew up in Jersey"
 
You take the name you want to win and put it in the freezer. Just pull out the cold one.
Can't tell you how I know this other than "I grew up in Jersey"
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I love how everyone in the US gets a house with a "temperature controlled wine cellar".
we're actually building a dedicated temp-controlled cellar room in the brewery so:
"hey dawg, I heard you like to cellar your cellarables so we built a cellar to pre-cellar your cellarables"

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