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American Black Ale I can deal with. Black IPA is just not right. I don't quite understand why American IPA's are called IPA's anyway. It's not like we are actually hopping up our Pale Ales so they can make the journey to India. I guess I just don't agree with the term India Pale Ale at all.
carnevoodoo
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Well, then Imperial Stout doesn't make sense to you either? IPA is a historical term. I understand that. Putting "Imperial" in front of everything these days is just as ridiculous, but it serves a purpose. You know what you're getting.
If someone with no prior knowledge of all this were to ask you what you were drinking and you said, "black IPA", they'd understand. When people ask what an American Black Ale is, you'll probably just say, "well, it is just a black IPA" because that's the easiest way to define it. At this point "IPA" has no base in history. It is just a style definition that is easy to understand. Worrying so much about the implications of How the I and the P don't make sense is really just nitpicking.
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smizak
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Peoples is being way too literal up in this thread.
IMO, a classic style needs some history or a story for it to be real. I can give people an interesting story about Saison, or Belgian Dubbel, or Bohemian Pilsner. Those beers were brewed that way because the geography/climate/resources/culture dictated them to be brewed that way. They had to be. Even the term "American IPA" has merit to me, it's a big, bold, brash style of beer brewed with distinctive American hops that punches you in the face. It's very American, and it's a unique beer, more than a slight recipe tweak. It's become the representative beer of our brewing culture. A "Cascadian Dark Ale" has no story other than some guy throwing some Carafa Special into an American IPA.
IMO, a classic style needs some history or a story for it to be real. I can give people an interesting story about Saison, or Belgian Dubbel, or Bohemian Pilsner. Those beers were brewed that way because the geography/climate/resources/culture dictated them to be brewed that way. They had to be. Even the term "American IPA" has merit to me, it's a big, bold, brash style of beer brewed with distinctive American hops that punches you in the face. It's very American, and it's a unique beer, more than a slight recipe tweak. It's become the representative beer of our brewing culture. A "Cascadian Dark Ale" has no story other than some guy throwing some Carafa Special into an American IPA.
SumnerH
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Gargamel had a limited release but it's virtually impossible to find old bottles now.
The coolship stuff, Rosa, and a few others have shown up sporadically at special events.
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thataintchicken
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I'll admit. it's a silly name.
A Black IPA is just that.... a black IPA.
Loved the Widmer W'10. Thoroughly enjoyed the NW CDA's that I have been able to try.
Teh Stone Self-Righteous nails the style IMHO.
my own recipe resembles the Deschutes Hop In The Dark.
which is not a bad thing.
A Black IPA is just that.... a black IPA.
Loved the Widmer W'10. Thoroughly enjoyed the NW CDA's that I have been able to try.
Teh Stone Self-Righteous nails the style IMHO.
my own recipe resembles the Deschutes Hop In The Dark.
which is not a bad thing.
When I watched the video for making of their first lambic, I got all giddy when they were filling that coolship. I was like, "I soooo wanna do that at home one day". Does that make me a beer dork? :cross:
billvon
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Black IPA == Black India Pale Ale
I can't be the only person that sees a problem with that name.
Recently had a Scottish Belgian Black India Pale Ale. You can't think about it too much.
