"Oh, I don't like dark beer"

[Wirk]

There is some truth in this.

My dad is ridiculous about wine, maybe more ridiculous than me about beer(but probably not).
He would drink a little beer, the occasional blue moon and shock top. I used gumballhead for his gateway beer and lately I have been blowing his mind with some of the hop bombs I have been brewing. Every time he tastes a beer of mine he says "you have really changed my beer tastes"

My dad is the same! He is now the biggest fan of my beer.

 

[Halbrust]

I'm still not liking dark beers, but had a home brewed Baltic porter last night that wasn't bad at all.

 

[Gameface]

I'm still not liking dark beers, but had a home brewed Baltic porter last night that wasn't bad at all.

So what's a dark beer?

 

[ludomonster]

I would say a dark beer is anything darker than 20 SRM, but I think some people might say it's anything darker than 15.

 

[JordanThomas]

So what's a dark beer?

Although this seems rhetorical, I'd say that anything over 25 SRM is "dark."

 

[Gameface]

I honestly think a lot of non-craft beer drinkers would call anything darker than 10 SRM a dark beer. But besides that, all dark beers did not get dark in the same way. The flavors that come with roasted barley or other dark roasted malts is a lot different than using a bunch of crystal 60 to get a beer dark.

Saying "dark beer" is like saying "wet food" in that it doesn't say a whole lot about the beer.

 

[cheezydemon3]

get to keg my "Blacker than YOUR soul" EXTRA stout tonight

I try to brew them SO black that my buddies don't just swill them down.

(of course I have a cheap PALE pale ale on tap for the weenies)

 

[uncommonsense]

I would say a dark beer is anything darker than 20 SRM, but I think some people might say it's anything darker than 15.

I've had people say that my 10 srm New Zealand ESB is realy dark

 

[uncommonsense]

I'm still not liking dark beers, but had a home brewed Baltic porter last night that wasn't bad at all.

So you like dark beer then.

 

[Rev2010]

Beer drinkers or not, light beer only lovers, etc everyone I've had try my Weizenbock has loved it, except for one person. That person is my brother. He took one sip last Thanksgiving, made a face and said, "Bleh... too many flavors" LMAO. It doesn't have too many different competing flavors, it's just full flavored. But, this is coming from a self confessed Rolling Rock drinker so I guess what else would I expect!?


Rev.

 

[rawkstar320]

Funny thing happened last week, my dad came over and wanted to try a homebrew. After telling him I had some pale ales he goes "oh....I don't really like that kind, I only like dark beers..."

Needless to say, I scrounged up an oktoberfest but I thought it was kinda funny.

 

[cheezydemon3]

Funny thing happened last week, my dad came over and wanted to try a homebrew. After telling him I had some pale ales he goes "oh....I don't really like that kind, I only like dark beers..."

Needless to say, I scrounged up an oktoberfest but I thought it was kinda funny.

HA HA! That's awesome.


Someone saying that they like beer but not dark beer, is about the same as someone saying that they like wine, but only white zinfandel......

White Zinfandel is wine for people that actually don't like wine but want to look like they do.

(I know I sound like a snob, but it is honestly only because I am better than most people)

 

[rawkstar320]

HA HA! That's awesome.

Someone saying that they like beer but not dark beer, is about the same as someone saying that they like wine, but only white zinfandel......

White Zinfandel is wine for people that actually don't like wine but want to look like they do.

(I know I sound like a snob, but it is honestly only because I am better than most people)

Nice, that's why I drink white zinfandel. In the words of the great John Hodgmen "Rosea wine is the ambiguous wine for ambiguous people" (or something like that)

 

[Whattawort]

Nice, that's why I drink white zinfandel. In the words of the great John Hodgmen "Rosea wine is the ambiguous wine for ambiguous people" (or something like that)

Thought that was merlot.

 

[rawkstar320]

Thought that was merlot.

No, it was the "pink" wines because they are neither red nor white. it's possible that I have it wrong as I have only listened to him describe this section, I do not have the book....yet.

 

[sweed]

I remember drinking white zinfandel when I was 19 at an Italian restaurant in the north end in Boston. Didn't get carded, and that's what the gf at the time wanted. Waaaaay before my (good) beer drinking days. I cant stand the stuff now,.too sweet.
I had a nice founders breakfast stout last night. That was nice and dark.

 

[Halbrust]

OK beer snobs. If I change my statement from "I don't like dark beers" to "I don't like stouts" is that acceptable?
Porters are growing on me. I'm really liking Dunkelweisses (is that the correct plural?). But stouts taste burnt, I send thigs back that are burnt at a restaurant, or throw them away if I burn them at home.

So, beer snob community: Is it OK for me to say "I don't like stouts"?
(Do not answer "drink what you like", because that shows you are not part of the beer snob community, and so I'm not asking you)

 

[sweed]

OK beer snobs. If I change my statement from "I don't like dark beers" to "I don't like stouts" is that acceptable?
Porters are growing on me. I'm really liking Dunkelweisses (is that the correct plural?). But stouts taste burnt, I send thigs back that are burnt at a restaurant, or throw them away if I burn them at home.

So, beer snob community: Is it OK for me to say "I don't like stouts"?
(Do not answer "drink what you like", because that shows you are not part of the beer snob community, and so I'm not asking you)

Nope... Banned!! Delete your account and leave that nonsense out of here!! :cross:

HOw many stouts have you tried, maybe you got a bad one?? I love the roasty, chocolate, coffee goodness...mmmm

 

[JordanThomas]

OK beer snobs. If I change my statement from "I don't like dark beers" to "I don't like stouts" is that acceptable?
Porters are growing on me. I'm really liking Dunkelweisses (is that the correct plural?). But stouts taste burnt, I send thigs back that are burnt at a restaurant, or throw them away if I burn them at home.

So, beer snob community: Is it OK for me to say "I don't like stouts"?
(Do not answer "drink what you like", because that shows you are not part of the beer snob community, and so I'm not asking you)

I think it'd be more accurate to say you don't tend to like stouts. It would be far more accurate if you said that you didn't like stouts that have a roasted flavor (roasted barley might be what you don't like). It'd be the best if you just said you didn't like beers you've actually tried. I don't say, "I don't like adjunct lagers" because there might be one out there that I do like, so grouping them all together just because I don't like the 7-8 I've tried, is a bit lazy.

 

[AMonkey]

White Zinfandel is wine for people that actually don't like wine but want to look like they do.

This is me. After one glass, I am like why the f do people drink wine? After two glasses, I am like eh, not bad. After one bottle, I am like this is some good sh*t, lets open another one!

My wife usually drinks red, so I get the bottle to myself, and it is never good after its been in the fridge open so I figure I better finish it off.

 

[Xpertskir]

This is me. After one glass, I am like why the f do people drink wine? After two glasses, I am like eh, not bad. After one bottle, I am like this is some good sh*t, lets open another one!

My wife usually drinks red, so I get the bottle to myself, and it is never good after its been in the fridge open so I figure I better finish it off.

You realize that White Zinfandel is the budweiser of wine.

Perhaps if you drank some "real wine" you would enjoy it.

 

[Whattawort]

Please surrender your brewing card and exit out that door. If you have beer fermenting or cellaring, that too must be surrendered to the community.

In all seriousness, I would suggest trying a Terrapin Wake 'N Bake if you can get your hands on one. It's probably the best example of a big coffee stout that I've found. If the ABV wasn't so high, I could probably take care of 3 or 4 of 'em in a single session.

 

[stratslinger]

Let me preface this statement with the fact that I love me some stouts and porters.

But I've always thought the black malt in porters lent more of a burnt flavor than the roast malt does in stouts. If you're getting a burnt flavor in stouts, 1) you might just not have a pallette that appreciates stouts, in which case you pallette's wrong and you should be ashamed, or 2) you've tried some lousy-assed stouts.

I'm hoping for 2).

 

[AMonkey]

You realize that White Zinfandel is the budweiser of wine.

Perhaps if you drank some "real wine" you would enjoy it.

Hmm, can you get "real wine" for $3 a bottle?

 

[Whattawort]

Hmm, can you get "real wine" for $3 a bottle?

Sure. Boone's Farm and Wild Irish Rose are typically around that price point and it's technically real wine.

 

[stratslinger]

Sure. Boone's Farm and Wild Irish Rose are typically around that price point and it's technically real wine.

Fail.

If you have to qualify it with "technically," it ain't real.

 

[rawkstar320]

Let me preface this statement with the fact that I love me some stouts and porters.

But I've always thought the black malt in porters lent more of a burnt flavor than the roast malt does in stouts. If you're getting a burnt flavor in stouts, 1) you might just not have a pallette that appreciates stouts, in which case you pallette's wrong and you should be ashamed, or 2) you've tried some lousy-assed stouts.

I'm hoping for 2).

(1) is perfect, probably opening a big can if worms, but I'm interested in responses. Scientifically speaking, it is possible that someone could find it impossible to like ANY dark porter or stout. I believe the term is "super taster" but this makes someone ultra sensitive to flavor and often find those flavors overwhelming. Of course, I would imagine these people also find "light" beers with lots of hop flavor over powering as well.

Not entirely in line with the original question, but something to consider.

 

[WhiskeySam]

If you don't like stouts, it's just because you haven't found the right stout.

 

[malweth]

I find it surprising that there's such a perception of snobbery within HBT. I don't know who said it, but I think I saw it here: "a beer geek is someone who cares about what they're drinking; a beer snob is someone who cares about what you're drinking."

On the other hand, I'm also surprised that anyone here can say they hate a style. "Can't appreciate" seems like a better descriptor. I can't appreciate a good dunkelweizen because the only one I've had wasn't great and wasn't to style (Newport Storm). On the other hand, I just learned to appreciate good sour beers by trying some 5-6 great examples.

The problem with hating a style of beer is the same problem people who "don't like dark beer" have. They have preconceived notions about what they'll get with a dark beer.

 

[corkybstewart]

I find it surprising that there's such a perception of snobbery within HBT. I don't know who said it, but I think I saw it here: "a beer geek is someone who cares about what they're drinking; a beer snob is someone who cares about what you're drinking."

On the other hand, I'm also surprised that anyone here can say they hate a style.

The problem with hating a style of beer is the same problem people who "don't like dark beer" have. They have preconceived notions about what they'll get with a dark beer.

I can categorically affirm that I hate pumpkin beers. I've tried a bunch of them, just can't drink them. Somebody mentioned Wake and Bake, that's another beer I just don't get.
The problem with hating dark beers is that there are so many styles that are dark but unrelated to each other. Dunkel is basically a dark colored helles, there is very little , if any, roasted malt taste to it. Served in an opaque glass or to a blindfolded person I bet few people would ever guess it's a dark beer. Comparing dunkel to stout is like comparing Saison Dupont to Bud Light because they're about the same color.