Obnoxious Football Trash Talk Thread

[motobrewer]

hahaha!

billy's a tool

http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...hick_gets_testy_over_questions_about_rob.html

 

[Darwin18]

It is known.

 

[finsfan]

Geez, for someone who is a self-professed Dolphins fan you sure bring up the Jets a whole lot. Admit it, you're obsessed just like the preteen girls are with Bieber. It's okay. I'm sure you can buy a 2008 Favre jersey somewhere on the interwebs.

As for Miami having a QB...that is rather debateable.

These are the statistics for two NFL QBs during the 2012 season. The first is Ryan Tennehill. The second is a mystery QB.

Tannehill
COMP: 282
ATT: 484
COMP %: 58.3%
YARDS: 3,294
TDS: 12
INT: 13
YD Per COMP: 6.81
QB Rating: 52.3

Mystery QB
COMP: 453
ATT: 246
COMP %: 54.3%
YARDS: 2,883
TDS: 13
INT: 18
YD Per COMP: 6.36
QB Rating: 23.4

Tannehill isn't significantly better than Mystery QB, and has the benefit of playing one extra game than the Mystery QB last season. Additionally, Tannehill plays for the Dolphins who no one respects. The Dolphins last good season came with a blind head coach. Also, if they played all their games in S. Florida, they would have a shot at the playoffs, but come November/December the Dolphins will choke as they always do. No worries, they'll won't suck enough and will miss out the Teddy Bridgewater and J. Clowney sweepstakes.

Thanks for proving my point. Sanchez was a championship caliber QB coming into the league and look at him now. Hes made the jets a laughing stock and has been steadily declining the past few years. Tannehill was a rookie and over performed by all means. So we didnt make the playoffs the first year with our QB and head coach. You cant build a winning franchise overnight, maybe I should be telling Rex this. As much as you guys like to hate on Miami, everyone else is already hating on the jets, not miami. its not just me darwin, watch espn or nfl network sometime

 

[McBrewskie]

NFL to consider getting making hits at knees or below a penalty. Pretty ridiculous with all the rules on hits. My least favorite is still the moronic defenseless player rule though.

 

[firerat]

NFL to consider getting making hits at knees or below a penalty. Pretty ridiculous with all the rules on hits. My least favorite is still the moronic defenseless player rule though.

Why don't they just put flags on everyone and call it a day.

 

[Punity]

Strike zone in football how retarted.

 

[McBrewskie]

Why don't they just put flags on everyone and call it a day.

It's getting bad. Ryan Clark had a really good point about how else is a 200 pound DB suppose to stop a 260 pound TE running at full speed, and that taking options for tackling away endangers defenders.

 

[Darwin18]

Thanks for proving my point. Sanchez was a championship caliber QB coming into the league and look at him now. Hes made the jets a laughing stock and has been steadily declining the past few years. Tannehill was a rookie and over performed by all means. So we didnt make the playoffs the first year with our QB and head coach. You cant build a winning franchise overnight, maybe I should be telling Rex this. As much as you guys like to hate on Miami, everyone else is already hating on the jets, not miami. its not just me darwin, watch espn or nfl network sometime

One year starting at USC makes someone a NFL caliber championship QB? What are you smoking man?! Sanchez was a good college QB. The NFL is filled with them. It doesn't make him a good professional QB.

As for Tannehill...I think we have a very different definition of over performing. I would assume that means that Tannehill was at least the best or second best starting rookie QB. Wait, he wasn't? Who else was a better rookie QB last season? In no particular order:

- Andrew Luck
- RG III
- Russell Wilson
- Colin Kaepernick

Tannehill arguably did better than these rookie QB's last season:

- Brandon Weeden (this is much closer than I thought)

I'm excluding Nick Foles because he didn't play a full season.

If you sort the NFL QBs that qualify by QB Rating, Tannehill is 27th out of 31. Overperforming my ass! When did we start handing participation trophies to professional athletes?

 

[the_bird]

Kaepernick wasn't a rookie last year, FWIW.

 

[finsfan]

when have their ever been that many good starting rookie QB's in the nfl? never. You have openly admitted that the jets suck, why are you trying to argue against it now? just accept the fact that miami has a QB that actually has potential to improve greatly and the jets have one (or four) who have potential to do worse than they already have shown to be. any other meaningless stats youd like to throw my way to help you sleep at night?

 

[Darwin18]

Kaepernick wasn't a rookie last year, FWIW.

He made 5 pass attempts in 2011. I'm sure that made a huge difference in 2012.

 

[finsfan]

He made 5 pass attempts in 2011. I'm sure that made a huge difference in 2012.

he could have throw zero passes in 2011 and still not have been a rookie last year

 

[the_bird]

He had a year of practices and workouts and preseason games and meetings and running the scout team and everything else associated with being an NFL player. Tom Brady was just talking the other day about the huge difference between his rookie year (when BB kept him on the 53-man roster as a fourth QB) and 2011, when he was forced to play. There's a huge difference between year 1 and year 2, whether you've gotten a lot of time on the field or not.

 

[Darwin18]

when have their ever been that many good starting rookie QB's in the nfl? never.

Seriously? I just listed four rookie QBs in 2012 who vastly out performed Tannehill. Outperformed - that's how you described Tannehill.

If you want to look at other good starting rookie QBs in modern NFL histor you can look at Cam Newton, Joe Flacco, Sam Bradford, Andy Dalton (good numbers), Vince Young (that's sad), Matt Ryan, Ben Roethlisberger, and Dan Marino. That's a combination of individual stats and team records for their rookie seasons.

You have openly admitted that the jets suck, why are you trying to argue against it now?

Umm..I'm pretty sure I'm calling out Tannehill. If he ever actually accomplishes something I'll be the first to give him his dues but the second coming of Dan Marino he is not.

just accept the fact that miami has a QB that actually has potential to improve greatly and the jets have one (or four) who have potential to do worse than they already have shown to be. any other meaningless stats youd like to throw my way to help you sleep at night?

Tannehill had a solid, if unimpressive, rookie season.

*Mock golf clap*

Congratulations. You have a below average NFL QB at the moment with the potential to maybe become league average someday if surrounded by the right talent. I think you need to lay off the Dolphin kool-aid for a bit and accept the reality: A nice 6-10 season looking up at the Pats with the rest of the AFC East.

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[Darwin18]

He had a year of practices and workouts and preseason games and meetings and running the scout team and everything else associated with being an NFL player. Tom Brady was just talking the other day about the huge difference between his rookie year (when BB kept him on the 53-man roster as a fourth QB) and 2011, when he was forced to play. There's a huge difference between year 1 and year 2, whether you've gotten a lot of time on the field or not.

Perhaps, but the speed and pressure of the game doesn't exactly translate to the practice field. But, hey if you really think that holding a clip board for a season is equivalent to actually playing a season more power to you.

 

[the_bird]

What I think is irrelevant.

What you hear from actual NFL quarterbacks about the difference between year 1 and year 2, is relevant.

 

[the_bird]

Let me ask you something. If Tom Brady gets hurt this year, will Ryan Mallett be elgible for "Rookie of the Year"? I remember Matt Cassel had a helluva rookie season in his fourth year.

 

[Darwin18]

Let me ask you something. If Tom Brady gets hurt this year, will Ryan Mallett be elgible for "Rookie of the Year"?

Quality point.

In my mind, he's a rookie regardless of whether he's sitting on the pine or not. Obviously, professionally, he's considered a player with multiple years of experience.

Yes, the film time and practice time are going to be much different from college, but I don't think the speed and challenge of the game, particularly at the QB position, translates well to the practice field or film room. There are plenty of QBs that have looked great in practice only to crumble in the game, particularly the mental aspect. Let's give Kaepernick some credit in that his first real full season as a starting QB was 2012 - In 2011, he was expected to hold the clipboard and not get in the way.

Fins - You still have three other rookie QBs that out performed Tannehill last season and a fourth that came close. When your QB is in the same conversation as Brandon Weeden as far as performance, I'd temper my public expectations for 2013.

 

[finsfan]

Seriously? I just listed four rookie QBs in 2012 who vastly out performed Tannehill.

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damn you are slow. my whole point is that their has never been ONE SEASON where so many rookies have played so well, kinda tough to compare tannehill to RGIII, Luck and Wilson, which wasnt what i was doing at all. Still, I feel every confident going into this season with tannehill, thank god its not sanchez.

unfortunately for you, weeden is also gonna out perform sanchez this year even tho you bash him. have fun at the bottom darwin

 

[the_bird]

I've got to say, I like Tannehill. I mean, let's remember what the single most important thing in life is.

He gets to tap that.

Even among the standards of "Wife of NFL Quarterback," that's *smoking*....

 

[Punity]

Yay he's the best at something

 

[finsfan]

bird just ended all discussions about tannehill, nicely done

 

[Punity]

Can't believe it went this long why do so many third rate qbs get talked about on here.

 

[finsfan]

cant really talk schit on peyton or drew

 

[Darwin18]

Tannehill was a rookie and over performed by all means.

damn you are slow. my whole point is that their has never been ONE SEASON where so many rookies have played so well

Umm...Yeah you need to actually read what you're writing because it's not jiving.

By your own words, either Tannehill was a rookie and over performed by all means (This means he was the best or second best rookie QB) OR there has never been one season where so many rookies have played so well (Tannehill didn't exactly play all that well so let's not lump him in here with these greats).

Which one is it? If it's the second point than yes, I agree. RGIII, Wilson, and Luck vastly outplayed the basic rookie expectations and carried their teams to the playoffs. Tannehill does not even compare.

If it's the first, then you have no idea what you're talking about. He was a below league average QB, which in rookie terms means he was about average. He had up and down moments, but certainly wasn't in the conversation as a great rookie QB. Just merely average.

kinda tough to compare tannehill to RGIII, Luck and Wilson, which wasnt what i was doing at all. Still, I feel every confident going into this season with tannehill, thank god its not sanchez.

Tannehill was a rookie and over performed by all means.

Derp? It's hard to know what you're trying to say if you say one thing, and then say you meant something completely different a few posts later.

Again, with the Sanchez comments? You do realize that Tannehill is currently far closer to Sanchez's level than RGIII, Wilson, or Luck? At least Sanchez has been to the playoffs multiple times which is more than anyone can say about the Dolphins for the last decade.

As for feeling every confident (whatever that means) going into the season with Tannehill...I would suggest you put down the Dolphin kool-aid. You have ever reason to be optimistic but let's be frank, as I've already pointed out numerous times, Tannehill isn't a great QB and he hasn't proven capable of carrying a team. I wouldn't be confident of a QB that was below league average last year - that just screams homerism. You might as well say you're confident in the Vikings because of Christian Ponder....Bwahahahahaa.

unfortunately for you, weeden is also gonna out perform sanchez this year even tho you bash him. have fun at the bottom darwin

Weeden actually didn't too badly, although he really only has a limited number of years for his career to show significant improvement. I think he surprised a lot of people last year, although he was not worth a first round pick. Browns might actually surprise a lot of people this year and be competitive.

You need to try to expand your football knowledge beyond ESPN and NFL network. Sanchez comments...you're smarter than that. Christ, even my mother in law has better insight on the Jets than just "Sanchez sucks" comments. Everyone and their mother knows that.

 

[the_bird]

Drew Brees is a helluva quarterback. It must REALLY suck knowing how badly he wanted to play in Miami, only to have the 'Fins tell him, "nah, we're good!"

 

[the_bird]

You need to try to expand your football knowledge beyond ESPN and NFL network.

You should get the Red Zone.

 

[Darwin18]

I've got to say, I like Tannehill. I mean, let's remember what the single most important thing in life is.

He gets to tap that.

Even among the standards of "Wife of NFL Quarterback," that's *smoking*....

Well said. Yes, Tannehill wins the hot girlfriend contest (except, that you know Brady is banging a Victoria's secret underwear model who is worth millions of Euros herself).

You should get the Red Zone.

No gracias. I don't have ADHD.

 

[Punity]

You should get the Red Zone.

Agreed Hoppy got RZ and look what he knows now.

 

[finsfan]

dear lord darwin, contradict yourself much? you just said weeden played great after saying he sucked, which is it? When i said tannehill out preformed expectations, that was miami's QB situation expectations. I surely didnt expect him to come in and do what he did last year as a rookie. Miami has struggled to land a solid QB in decades so tannehill is a sigh of relief. I dont even watch espn or nfl network that much, just letting you know that the world is giving crap to the jets, not miami, so i understand your frustration of not wanted to accept this