Obnoxious Football Trash Talk Thread

[Darwin18]

Jesus Christ Brady....just move the **** on. Take the four week vacation and move on. People are going to hate you not for cheating but for being a whinny ***** bitch.

 

[stratslinger]

What's funny is that the folks who do have a right to the texts and emails that were on his phone (ie, the courts) can still get that info by subpoenaing his carrier for the electronic information. Breaking it did nothing other than prevent him from physically handing over the device to a party who had no legal grounds to ask for it in the first place.

Also, didn't Favre get fined like $50k for not cooperating, coincidentally by not turning over his phone, in that dumbaz sexting scam a few years back? $50k vs a quarter season suspension sound at all even to anyone here?

Hell, since the NFL is completely convinced of both Brady's guilt in the matter and his lack of cooperation, they would've been absolutely right to throw the book at him by following precedent / the damn rulebook: $25k fine for the rules infraction as stated in the rulebook, and $50k for failure to cooperate. Hell, round it up to a full $100k to show you mean business and to set a reasonable new precedent. But a combined $1 million, 2 draft picks, and a quarter season suspension? Come on, man.

 

[Darwin18]

Also, didn't Favre get fined like $50k for not cooperating, coincidentally by not turning over his phone, in that dumbaz sexting scam a few years back? $50k vs a quarter season suspension sound at all even to anyone here?

This has been covered thoroughly already. Brady and the Pats got slammed because the NFL believed there was a conspiracy with Pats employees and players (Brady) to circumvent NFL rules. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence but nothing that would hold up in a legal court, which is not what the NFL is holding their appeals process to. A player acting on his own wouldn't be a major issue; it's the involvement of team employees that pisses the NFL off so much. Sanctity of the shield, blah blah blah.

Also if you think texting dick picks is on the same level as what Brady and the Pats employees are accused of doing then you're nuts.

 

[Cape Brewing]

From the greatest QB ever to play the game:


"I also disagree with yesterdays narrative surrounding my cellphone. I replaced my broken Samsung phone with a new iPhone 6 AFTER my attorneys made it clear to the NFL that my actual phone device would not be subjected to investigation under ANY circumstances. As a member of a union, I was under no obligation to set a new precedent going forward, nor was I made aware at any time during Mr. Wells investigation, that failing to subject my cell phone to investigation would result in ANY discipline.

"Most importantly, I have never written, texted, emailed to anybody at anytime, anything related to football air pressure before this issue was raised at the AFC Championship game in January. To suggest that I destroyed a phone to avoid giving the NFL information it requested is completely wrong."

 

[Cape Brewing]

So... "Under no obligation to set a new precedent"

But.... but.... But Hoppy said it was in the CBA.... That's odd

 

[bob1852]

Also if you think texting dick picks is on the same level as what Brady and the Pats employees are accused of doing then you're nuts.

You said dick and nuts. Hehehe

 

[Darwin18]

Don't forget the obligatory Crocs in said dick pic.

 

[stratslinger]

Those Crocs were worth $40k of that fine on their own.

 

[stratslinger]

Also if you think texting dick picks is on the same level as what Brady and the Pats employees are accused of doing then you're nuts.

Granted - but hasn't it been repeated ad nauseam at this point that Brady's part of the punishment is so severe primarily because of his alleged lack of cooperation? Again, in this case, separate out the two pieces of the punishment:

Assume guilt in the rules violation: $25k fine as per the rulebook

Fine for lack of cooperation due to not turning over the phone (apparently they didn't know he destroyed the thing until WELL after the punishment was handed down, so the destruction, while suspicious, shouldn't even play into this): $50k as per the Favre precedent.

Look at the two items they're penalizing him for, and this is what logic would deem is appropriate. I mean, on the failure to comply thing, you've got precedent. On the manipulation of equipment thing, you've got the damn rulebook. Where does the escalation of what should be a $75k fine to the equivalent of several million and a pair of draft picks between him and the team come from? That's going nuclear, plain and simple.

 

[Darwin18]

Where does the escalation of what should be a $75k fine to the equivalent of several million and a pair of draft picks between him and the team come from? That's going nuclear, plain and simple.

I'm just going to copy and paste what I wrote before since you didn't read it:

This has been covered thoroughly already. Brady and the Pats got slammed because the NFL believed there was a conspiracy with Pats employees and players (Brady) to circumvent NFL rules. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence but nothing that would hold up in a legal court, which is not what the NFL is holding their appeals process to. A player acting on his own wouldn't be a major issue; it's the involvement of team employees that pisses the NFL off so much. Sanctity of the shield, blah blah blah.

 

[stratslinger]

I did read it, actually. And by "a lot of circumstantial evidence", I assume you're referring to the snot rag that is the Wells report, so I chose to ignore it, like Ted Wells chose to ignore things like science, common sense, and apparently absolutely any evidence provided by any member of the Patriots organization.

 

[Darwin18]

It's not a court of law. It's a court of the NFL. They can do what they want. The sooner Brady realizes that the better. Stupid idiot doesn't realize or doesn't care that no one is talking about the Pats as Superbowl Champs this year - they're talking about Tom Brady and what a whinny ***** he is instead.

 

[Darwin18]

Jesus Christ Kraft, STFU already: http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story...land-patriots-fans-accepting-league-penalties

TL/DR: Kraft's snuggle buddy and sleep over pal stabbed him the back.

 

[Cape Brewing]

At the end of the day.... I am no longer convinced at all that this is really about the Patriots, or Brady, or inflated or deflated footballs. It's not about Goodell's ego, or "integrity of the shield", lack of cooperation, the destruction of a phone, or anything else like that.

This is now about bargaining power. The league office and the NFLPA have fought for decades to gain any upper hand on the other through CBA negotiations and a long list of court cases.

I honestly believe this is now 100% about what Brady alluded to in his response regarding "setting precedence".

With this now going to court, what is really at stake is dramatically more than Brady sitting out four games... it has to do with either widening (why Goodell is fighting) or narrowing (why the NFLPA is fighting) the scope of authority that Goodell and league management have.

Whichever side wins in court... they win a very significant swing in overall power when it comes to the CBA and the management of the league overall

 

[Cape Brewing]

I think anyone who thinks Brady should just shut up and accept it is a total douchenozzle.

1) so if you were accused of something that dramatically effected your life, you would just simply accept it?? Seriously?? Bullshti. So we should just tell everyone.... "Hey... If the cops arrest you for anything... don't be a whiney btich, just accept that you're guilty and go to jail."

What fckuing planet are you on?

2). Like I described above... this isn't about Brady anymore and I am willing to bet a large sum of money that the NLFPA very strongly encouraged Brady to fight this to the end on behalf of all of the union.

So... Take your "boo hoo. Brady is whining" and shove it up your shove-hole

 

[HoppyDaze]

tom brady set the record straight

And if you believe that you'll buy this watch...

 

[HoppyDaze]

I think anyone who thinks Brady should just shut up and accept it is a total douchenozzle.

1) so if you were accused of something that dramatically effected your life, you would just simply accept it?? Seriously?? Bullshti. So we should just tell everyone.... "Hey... If the cops arrest you for anything... don't be a whiney btich, just accept that you're guilty and go to jail."

What fckuing planet are you on?

2). Like I described above... this isn't about Brady anymore and I am willing to bet a large sum of money that the NLFPA very strongly encouraged Brady to fight this to the end on behalf of all of the union.

So... Take your "boo hoo. Brady is whining" and shove it up your shove-hole

You seem to forget this whole thing is because Brady and Patriots got caught breaking the rules. Don't play victim like all the other entitled weaklings in this country.

 

[Cape Brewing]

No... And don't be that stupid.

The Pats got caught breaking an extremely minor rule. No matter what the whole country is jerking off about and all the fkcuing ridiculous conspiracy theories out there by butt hurt puzzies who's team has been azz-raped by the Pats... at the end of the day, equipment tampering is a $25k fine.

And the NFL and Goodell have turned this into a cross between the Kennedy Assassination and Cambodian genocide.

The fact that we are even still talking about, and that this ridiculous story is taking up the headlines and airtime that it is is absolute insanity

 

[Natdavis777]

You seem to forget this whole thing is because Brady and Patriots got caught breaking the rules. Don't play victim like all the other entitled weaklings in this country.

Pretty much sums it up. Bottom line, dont cheat...

 

[HoppyDaze]

No... And don't be that stupid.

The Pats got caught breaking an extremely minor rule. No matter what the whole country is jerking off about and all the fkcuing ridiculous conspiracy theories out there by butt hurt puzzies who's team has been azz-raped by the Pats... at the end of the day, equipment tampering is a $25k fine.

And the NFL and Goodell have turned this into a cross between the Kennedy Assassination and Cambodian genocide.

The fact that we are even still talking about, and that this ridiculous story is taking up the headlines and airtime that it is is absolute insanity

You are ridiculous...and don't be that stupid. This is the Patriots fault...they should know not to give the NFL and Goodell the opportunity to turn it into an epic sihtshow

 

[Cape Brewing]

Retahded logic.

So if I park in a no parking zone, and a cop arrests me, puts me in the back of his car, decides he doesn't like me, takes me out to a field and fkcuing shoots me... It's my fault because I gave him the opportunity?

Stop it.

Even you aren't that Hoppy

 

[Natdavis777]

Talk about stupidity.... http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...atriots-deflategate-fine-suspend-gofundme-fan

I understand standing behind your team, but fans giving their money to help pay the fine that the organization payoff themselves without batting an eye. Dee da dee

 

[Cape Brewing]

Yeah... even I agree that's stupid.

Kraft wipes his ass with million dollar checks He doesn't need the cash

 

[HoppyDaze]

Retahded logic.

So if I park in a no parking zone, and a cop arrests me, puts me in the back of his car, decides he doesn't like me, takes me out to a field and fkcuing shoots me... It's my fault because I gave him the opportunity?

Stop it.

Even you aren't that Hoppy

That's a stupid analogy and so is your face.

 

[Roadliner]

Also, didn't Favre get fined like $50k for not cooperating, coincidentally by not turning over his phone, in that dumbaz sexting scam a few years back? $50k vs a quarter season suspension sound at all even to anyone here?

Your talking about another comparison of apples to oranges. A punishment imposed on a player for doing something off the field in their private lives vs. a player and organization screwing with the integrity of the game itself on the field.

 

[Roadliner]

"I'm a Pats fan and nothing they ever do will ever be bad, and they should never get in trouble for anything, and I love Tom Brady.. The Greatest QB to ever play the game who knows nothing about how a football should feel.. and everyone who doesn't agree with that is a &)*(&^&^)(*&)*)(*^&&@&#*#&(*#(*&^)@*^@^%!^$^)""

FTFY

 

[HoppyDaze]

Thanks Tom Brady for ruining sports radio for the next 5 weeks until college football starts. What a bitchy ******* that guy is...most system QBs are that way.

 

[wobrien]

'Hawk fans should know all about system QBs, huh?

 

[Darwin18]

Retahded logic.

So if I park in a no parking zone, and a cop arrests me, puts me in the back of his car, decides he doesn't like me, takes me out to a field and fkcuing shoots me... It's my fault because I gave him the opportunity?

Stop it.

Even you aren't that Hoppy

A 4-game suspension for involving team employees in a conspiracy to willfully bypass NFL rules and then failing to cooperate with the NFL is equal to being shot and left for dead by the police? I'll give to ya Pats fans, there is no group of people better at playing the victim card.

 

[HoppyDaze]

'Hawk fans should know all about system QBs, huh?

totally! good one!